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Emory University encourages elite football recruits to go to Kentucky


These students wouldn’t lie to you.

A recent study by the Emory Sports Marketing Science Initiative at Goizueta Business School suggests Kentucky is the place to go if you want to fulfill your NFL dreams. No, really. They said that.

It’s all backed up by a statistical analysis of draft picks versus college recruiting rankings. They took the number of draft picks by school and then divided by the number of elite recruits by school to find theĀ conversion rate of college recruits to drafted players. Then they did some other mathematical stuff to determine that Kentucky is the best at turning four and five star recruits into NFL players.

It makes perfect sense!

Here’s a fun stat: Over the last six seasons, Kentucky has had more NFL draft picks than elite recruits.

Boom! What up, Alabama? Roll that!

This graph should be on the cover of every UK recruiting folder, handbook, manual, binder, book, DVD case, and anything else that has a cover. Show the kids how awesome UK is at converting high school talent to NFL talent. So what if the study is slightly ridiculous? Look at how much higher UK’s bar goes on the graph!!!

Emory University gets it.

Want to Get Drafted in the NFL? Go to Kentucky, Not Alabama!

Article written by Drew Franklin

I can recite every line from Forrest Gump, blindfolded. Follow me on Twitter: @DrewFranklinKSR

37 Comments for Emory University encourages elite football recruits to go to Kentucky



  1. AnthonyBBN
    1:18 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Makes perfect sense to me. This should be shared far and wide.



  2. Michael F. Jox
    1:19 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Very funny stuff, Mr. Franklin



  3. El Pollo Loco
    1:22 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    True.

    I also like the delusional comment on the article that Joker’s development was the reasoning and that he’ll get Florida’s numbers up.



  4. Come Play For the Joker
    1:22 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    You’re welcome!



  5. Turkey Season is almost over
    1:22 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Randall Cobb.



  6. Ridge Runner
    1:23 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Well….umm…..I…ah….OK, I’m down it dat.



  7. jetblue
    1:24 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Is Ryan Lemond moonlighting as an Emory University student?



  8. Jake_GOCATS
    1:28 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    2. GET OFF THE SITE YOU TROLL. It says KENTUCKY sports radio NOT LOUISVILLE. And this does make perfect sense for anybody who has the capability of logical thinking. Since UK gets so few “elite” recruits in football, yet manages to produce a fair amount of draft picks, wouldn’t it be logical that UK would have the most EFFICIENT program for NFL draft picks? Efficient in this case meaning the number of highly rated recruits divided by the number of draft picks in a given time span. Taking this into account, it makes perfectly logical sense that Kentucky would be at or near the top of this type of list.



  9. clint
    1:30 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Nice report Drew!



  10. IowaCat
    1:34 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    I would guess our awesome punters help that statistic.



  11. Hey Guys
    1:36 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Representing BBN here at Emory University.



  12. Jake_GOCATS
    1:36 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Also, for those interested or are confused, the numbers on the Y-Axis denote the number of draft picks PER four and five star recruits. So, that means Kentucky is averaging about 1.75 to 1.80 draft picks PER four and five star recruits over this time span (2007-2012). That is an incredible efficiency and conversion rate. Take this from a 19 year old math geek and statistical aficionado.



  13. UKDMD
    1:38 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Interesting study. Much better statistical analysis than we usually see on this site.

    They really should get this out to recruits. Problem is very few would understand it. Of course, all most people in this country need is a graph to believe anything.



  14. Jake_GOCATS
    1:42 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    13. They would understand it if somebody took the time to explain the mathematics behind the analysis. It’s actually very simple statistics. I would be willing to bet a 5th grader could manage this if given the proper teaching and descriptions.



  15. Juan4UK
    1:43 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    I’ll take the success Alabama has over Jokers ability and reliance to turn 2 and 3 star recruits into draft picks.
    The statistician failed to factor in the number of players recruited & drafted vs the ones of same ranking who weren’t drafted. That will also put that little study in perspective.



  16. Juan4UK
    1:45 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    13 & 14, the bottom line is that it was Jokers staff, not the school that developed them in the pros. The ONLY “help” is that the NAME of the school or reputation doesn’t matter.



  17. Jake_GOCATS
    1:47 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    16. Since the study is only concerned with finding the efficiency of each program concerning draft picks, the percentage of undrafted recruits would be irrelevant in this case. All the study is concerned with is defining the number of draft picks PER 4 and 5 star recruits, not the percentage of draft picks PER 4 and 5 star recruits VERSUS number of undrafted players PER 4 and 5 star recruits.



  18. Jake_GOCATS
    1:49 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    17. This study includes both the Rich Brooks (2007-2009) and Joker Phillips (2010-2012) eras.



  19. Juan4UK
    1:53 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    re:18 point stands. Those coaches aren’t at UK anymore.



  20. jimmer
    1:56 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    15 – This study definitely has limitations and clearly it doesn’t have anything to do with results on the field as we have seen over the past few years.

    That said, I think it does illustrate the opportunity elite recruits have at UK and the exposure we get playing in the SEC. Even though we don’t have top tier talent, you can’t hide from the NFL when you play in the SEC because NFL scouts will be there when we play Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, LSU, etc. This is why the NFL finds UK players that are NFL-caliber even when we struggle as a team. At the end of the day, even unsuccessful team results won’t negatively impact the NFL status for many of our players.

    That is a great thing to sell potential recruits because even though we might not be a Top 25 team. We might get Top 25 exposure in the eyes of the NFL evaluators because you can’t take away the fact that we face SEC competition.



  21. Jake_GOCATS
    2:00 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    10. You could say the same thing about Alabama. Since Nick Saban hasn’t been there for longer than 6 years and probably won’t be there for longer than 6 more years, does that mean Alabam’s succes will go away? No it doesn’t. The fact remains for their success on the field as well as Kentucky’s proven ability for producing talent at an efficient rate. The only proof needed is that this analysis covered TWO different coaching regimes for Kentucky, yet their conversion rate was still the best. And since most fans hold the notion that Stoops is much better equipped to succeed at recruiting and developing than at the least Joker and maybe even Brooks, who’s to say this efficiency won’t co to he or even strengthen. The argument that a coaching switch changes the efficiency is shot down by the fact that UK had two different coaches during the time of the study.



  22. BBN in Cajunland
    2:00 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    When you only average one or two 4 star recruits a year they become the “face” of your team and are going to look good. So, they get drafted! This is a good study to use recruiting if you’re a program that has more elite recruits. Hopefully that day is coming.



  23. Jake_GOCATS
    2:02 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Sorry last comment was intended for number 19. Juan4UK.



  24. Jake_GOCATS
    2:09 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    21. That’s exactly the point. UK hasn’t had on-field success in a few years but that doesn’t mean we haven’t had it before then. Even in Joker’s first year we were competitive in almost every game, losing to the Heisman Trophy winner (Cam Newton) and eventual National Champions (Auburn) on a game winning drive and last second field goal. That same team UK beat on the road the previous year with a FRESHAMN quarterback (Morgan Newton) and a reserve (Will Fidler). Shortly before that, UK was as high as number 8 in the BCS standings and defeated the National Champions (LSU). UK has had success and will have more, hopefully sooner rather than later. I just hope BBN hasn’t given up on the football team after 2012’s train wreck. Keep the faith. We still have a team and hopefully they still fight like Wildcats.



  25. Atl
    2:16 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    UK and Oregon State. Both Mitch schools.



  26. Mr Barnes
    2:22 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Actually what this shows is that in 07 08 and 09 we had a significant amount of talent that never translated to recruiting success. These results would have happened for anyone who was pretty good in 06-09 then sucked it up after that.



  27. Jake_GOCATS
    2:29 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    26. Not necessarily. It could be that since we had some 4 and 5 star guys during that time who also translated to draft picks (Andre Woodson, Corey Peters, and Myron Pryor to name a few) then our number would’ve lower than 1.75 or 1.8; if we work on the assumption that we had far greater efficiency during the period 06-09, even though 06 wasn’t included, them 06-09 would have a far greater impact on the efficiency rating. In which case, the conversion number would be much lower due to the higher number of 4 star and 5 star players during that time. Although there weren’t many, there were more than the period from 2010-2012.



  28. Jake_GOCATS
    2:29 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Sorry that was intended for Mr. Barnes 27. These comments keep getting deleted.



  29. UKDMD
    2:31 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    14) I don’t think you understand where a lot of these kids come from. They’re not all smart enough to grasp your so called 5th grade statistics. This isn’t necessarily their fault bc a lot come from underprivileged areas so I’m not trying to knock on these kids. I just know, as a CSCS I’ve trained a lot of kids like them – at UK even.



  30. Jake_GOCATS
    2:39 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    I’m not disputing these kids couldn’t learn it. I’m saying that if they were taught properly then they have the ability to grasp it, unless suffering from a pre-existing condition that inhibits learning. I’m sure you have seen cases such as this. All I’m saying is that for an average student, and in most cases the prospects for football should be or otherwise they wouldn’t pass the entrance exams, they should be able to at least understand the concept. And growing in Southeastern Kentucky, I accomplished far more complicated mathematics than this in my earlier education years. At least in terms of the premise of the study, all one needs is the number of 4 and 5 star players, which would normally be no more than 10-15 for the best teams and the number of draft picks, again no more than 10-15 for the best teams. These are simple mathematic questions.



  31. Rashid
    2:52 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Florida State is last on that list. I wouldn’t show it to recruits



  32. CatsFanFrankfort
    3:21 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    This is pretty simple. I agree with #20: the exposure as an SEC school is huge. Also, it just makes sense that if you are a decent recruit (3-4 stars), you can come to Kentucky and have a chance to showcase your skills. If you are better than most of the rest of the team (a la Randall Cobb), then you will stand out to NFL scouts who are perhaps in attendance to see Alabama or Florida, etc. recruits. They will undoubtedly notice a better player on the team. While the team may lose, the better recruit may also be able to pad their stats a bit. Although, this of course could backfire, based on position. (A star wide receiver would need at least a decent QB, or a star RB would need a decent O-line).



  33. Maxbps8
    3:30 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Should increase the FONT SIZE of the letters N-F-L to like 64. I had to read this three times before it sank in that they were talking N-F-L not NBA.



  34. CatsFanFrankfort
    3:35 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    Ha, #33, I thought the same thing at first glace. But then I noticed that it says ‘football recruits’ in the post’s title.



  35. NL
    4:11 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    This is 100% due to exposure. There are always some under appreciated guys out there who when given a shot can play with the best of the best. Kentucky is a place where these guys get to do that almost every week. This study doesn’t surprise me at all. If you are a three star, why go be a star at some mid major? Come to Kentucky where you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.



  36. wubwub
    4:26 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    WHEW!!!!!! The only reason for this is Kentucky has gotten almost no elite recruits in that period, and the small sample size throws it out of whack. But WHEW!!!!!!



  37. Emory Alum
    5:37 pm April 25, 2013 Permalink

    First time in a while that I’ve felt the need to donate to my alma mater. Glad to see Emory’s B-School is doing quality work!