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Doug Gottlieb says UNC was the best team last year

 

Doug Gottlieb is in between jobs, leaving ESPN for CBS, and has had a lot of time on his hands to try to annoy UK fans think about who the “real” best team in the country was last year. I don’t agree with his opinion that UNC was the best team with or without Marshall and most sane people don’t agree with it, but whatever, he is entitled to it. I post the below twitter conversation not to blast his ridiculous and short-sighted opinion, but to show his response to a UK fan who made a valid point arguing against him. Gottlieb’s response to the UK fan (@uksportstalk1) is once again an example of a mainstream media guy looking down at the Kentucky fan base, dismissing a fair point that was actually very logical and valid, just because it came from a UK fan. “#BBN logic” is what Gottlieb referred to the fair point that was made.  The point made I believe in the below tweet was that both teams improved, but Kentucky won earlier in the season with freshman in their first big college game and went on to improve more than UNC did, going the distance for a National Championship. It seemed like a pretty fair and reasonable argument, but Gottlieb dismissed it as “#BBN logic”.

Newsflash: the mainstream media have favorite teams and there are teams and fans which they hate just like the rest of us. They are in the business they’re in because they are fans, too. They can be just as nonobjective as any KSR blogger or fan of any team, and this can be most evident in twitter interactions such as the one below.

On a personal note, later today I am leaving Kentucky for a new adventure up at ESPN to help edit and write for the new ESPN College Football Mobile Application. I won’t be around on KSR for a few weeks as I make the move to get settled into Bristol, but I may return in September if I find out that I am still able to contribute. Thank you all for reading, following on twitter, and interacting with me about UK sports. It’s been a pleasure to write for and talk UK sports with the best and most knowledgeable fans in the country, no matter what Doug Gottlieb thinks.

@wilmhoffKSR

Article written by John Wilmhoff

Former beer vendor, college mascot and ESPN editor. This spring, you can also find me blogging about the Reds on blogredmachine.com. Follow me on Twitter: @JohnWilmhoff

86 Comments for Doug Gottlieb says UNC was the best team last year



  1. catlogic15
    2:05 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Dear Doug Gottlieb, does this mean I have to send my Championship T-shirts back?



  2. GoCats1
    2:08 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    UK beat the team that beat UNC, but UNC is the best team at the end of the season?



  3. SeoulCat
    2:09 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Gottlieb is only proving what we already knew: he’s an idiot.



  4. Douggercats
    2:09 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    The head on the cowboy is only slightly bigger than gottlieb’s.



  5. GoCats1
    2:09 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Logic says that Duke was the best team at the end of the season. They just had a bad game in the first round.



  6. back2final4
    2:12 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Seriously? What is wrong with this guy? Clearly, he is entitled to his opinion, but how can this argument rationally or reasonably be made by a man/journalist/analyst? By any objective measurement, it is simply wrong. Forever being obtuse I guess.



  7. JaredCarterIsMyHomeboy
    2:14 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Going to ESPN? I call that a career downgrade.



  8. UK Wildcat
    2:22 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    UNC can have the Doug Gottlieb Retrospective Best Team Award, I’m pretty happy with the NCAA Championship.



  9. Micah
    2:26 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Him being a basketball fan from Oklahoma State… what are you gonna do? His opinion means as much
    as their program



  10. kaboom
    2:28 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Ignorance is a disease. This douchebag is a catalst. Please God let us win another championship this year so he drops his shit all over his new job



  11. Beavis
    2:29 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Maybe Mr Gottlieb would like to comment on the course load at UNC. He is correct,,,they were the best team in the country ,,, just not at basketball. Mr Gottlieb,,,the trophy is in Lexington. Sorry bout that. Enjoy your new job.



  12. dean smith jr
    2:31 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Is this the same Doug Gottlieb that was EXPELLED from Notre Dame for stealing and using his roommate’s credit cards before transferring to play for fast Eddie at OSU? What a fine upstanding representative for college basketball!



  13. Mainstream Truth
    2:31 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    UNC was by far the best team at the end of the season last year if McAdoo would have gone pro we would have had 5 first rounders. We also would have won the national championship, our 7th by the way, if Kendall wouldn’t have gotten hurt. That game in Rupp wasn’t accurate we had only played a big game on an Aircraft carrier and hadn’t played in a big corwd. We didn’t shoot a good percentage from three that game and still almost won on a last second block. UK lost to IU on a buzzer beater on the road for crying out loud and lost to Vanderbilt at the end of the three day conference championship. It was the third time they had played even.. and you know UNC and Harrison Zeller Henson and Strick would have beaten UK by 30.



  14. Your mom
    2:31 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Louisville was the best team.



  15. jeyhey
    2:32 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    I know this not a “free” country anymore…but people should be allowed to have an opinion. Just laugh it off as a comment from someone who really does’nt matter…because it does’nt. In MY opinion the best team won the title, of course my opinion means nothing…see how that works?



  16. Your mom
    2:32 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    See Doug, we all can play.



  17. Brooks queen
    2:33 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Matt”s interview with Gottlieb gave us a hint that he would turn his back on BBN and #8 …. and where is the trophy?



  18. AtomicDawg02
    2:34 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    No need to get upset BBN…..all we have to say is SCOREBOARD….or CHAMPIONSHIP. Yawn. Then walk away.



  19. Your mom
    2:35 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Wait a minute, Florida was the best team.



  20. cjcat
    2:36 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Who really gives a damn what Doug Gottlieb thinks!



  21. Matt W
    2:38 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Rumor has it Doug Gottlieb couldn’t get laid if he crawled up a chickens ass



  22. Bicycle Seat Sniffer
    2:38 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    These media guys know that they can gain relevance by going after UK. Look at Goodman, Parrish, Forde, O’Neill, Thamel, etc. Stirring the pot with BBN is a way for them to remain relevant during the off-season when news is at a standstill. Gottdweeb is just another addition to the ever-growing list.



  23. BURRRRR
    2:40 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    13. For someone claiming to be a UNC fan, you sure don’t know how many championships you have.



  24. HillbillyInBC
    2:41 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Oh great, another reason for the numbnuts in Chapel Hill to hang a banner in the Smith Center. Only question is how they’ll make “Former ESPN chucklehead Doug Gottlieb totally said we were the best team in 2012” fit on a banner.



  25. cgfnh
    2:41 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Time for a new hashtag.

    I will forever believe the United States was on the wrong side of the Cold War. #DougGottliebEternalBeliefs

    I will forever believe Clay Aiken is straight. #DougGottliebEternalBeliefs

    I will forever believe the Generals are a better franchise than the Globetrotters. #DougGottliebEternalBeliefs



  26. Bicycle Seat Sniffer
    2:42 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Is that Gottdweeb’s wife in the picture? Man, she is ooooooooooooogly.



  27. UKBlue
    2:42 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Either Gottlieb is truly an idiot, is just looking for attention & trying to create drama for his new job, or some combination of both. Poking the BBN is the best way to do it.



  28. GoCats
    2:42 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    The funny thing is that he was high on OSU during the season. His quote was “OSU is best a point, wing, center”.



  29. Don Corleone
    2:43 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    23^) game, set, match.



  30. GoCats
    2:43 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    If you’re going to flip, at least flip to the team that actually won the tourney. Geesh



  31. Charlie Brown
    2:43 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Why do you people keep falling for the same trick every time?!?!



  32. snoopaloop
    2:44 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Sam Bowie was a better draft pick over Michael Jordan #gottlieblogic



  33. AppyCat
    2:45 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    AVG keeps blocking the KSR website and says it is detecting the Phoenix exploit kit on the site. Never gotten this before. PC running windows 7



  34. Your mom
    2:45 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    I forever hope Doug never picks us, it’s more fun this way. I love silly men.



  35. Rockfield, KY
    2:46 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Gottlieb is stating his subjective opinion and not backing it up with any facts or analysis. Yes UNC improved after we beat them. But so did we. To the point of being considered one of the best college basketball champions of the last century. He caters to the crowd that wants this sort of thing said and is widely anti-UK. Arguing with him is like arguing with and infant. There is no logic there, all emotion instead.

    UK stole the show last year like he stole wallets at ND (I had to get a personal dig in there)



  36. say what?
    2:46 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    13. Didn’t shoot a good percentage from three? I would like to know what you consider a good percentage since UNC shot 61.1% from three.



  37. Wildcatwill
    2:47 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    He should be wearing the protective helmet. It’s obvious he has fallen on his
    head one too many times.



  38. #13 is impaired
    2:47 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    #13 I will assume you were either joking or heavily medicated. The great UNC had played together for a year and some change while UK had barely started the season dominated by freshman and we still beat you. Then UNC gets embarrassed by almost 40 against Florida State, a game UK couldn’t lose if we tried



  39. Your mom
    2:50 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Doug’s wife is going to leave him for another woman.



  40. Lee
    2:54 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    No one has “stolen my joy.” I really enjoyed last season.



  41. StupidUkFan
    2:54 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    I guess he’s right. How can you argue against a team that gave up a lead to a team of freshmen early in the year? How can you argue against that list by more than thirty against Florida State? How can you argue against a team that blew a huge lead to a Duke team that lost to Lehigh as a 2 seed in the first round, AT HOME!!! How can you argue against a team that list badly to Flirida State in their conference semifinals with Kendal Marshal? All of this up against a team with 2 losses, who had a avg margin of victory in the tourney greater than 10. Not to mention that we beat sed greatest team! Gottlieb needs a long stay in group therapy. How does someone that dumb have a job?



  42. jeyhey
    2:57 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    @ 13…..been a good day fishin i see….several took the bait lol



  43. Your mom
    2:57 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Did Rosie O’Donnell lose weight?



  44. kaboom
    2:58 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Okay I think you all clearly missed the satire in #13. He’s a UK fan bashing UNC’s skewed way of arguing a point. Bad opinions followed up with worse stats



  45. Allaboutsafety
    3:03 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    ‘Bout what you would expect from a person whose children need to wear helmets to watch a footrace.



  46. Adam
    3:03 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Isn’t it logical that a team of freshman would have more room to grown than a team of sophmore’s and Juniors?
    Isn’t it logical that last years UK team had more room to bond than last years UNC team?
    Isn’t it logical that Anthony Davis improved more than any player in college basketball last year?
    Isn’t it logical that UNC would not shoot 61 percent from three again against UK?



  47. Meme
    3:05 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    McKayla Maroney is not impressed by Doug Gottlieb (insert picture here)



  48. harry
    3:08 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    everyone is entilted to their opinion, I dont keep up with UNC updates but they UNC lose by about 30 during regular season? I think FSU.



  49. harry
    3:09 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    beat the brakes off UNC



  50. Lassie
    3:10 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Doug Gottlieb molests collie’s.



  51. FultonCatFan
    3:11 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Best wishes at ESPN John…Hope to read something from you soon.



  52. WERUK
    3:21 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Dont agree with Doug at all but posting a pic with his kids in it is a little much IMO.



  53. Keith Myath
    3:21 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    The great thing about college basketball is that, unlike in college football, the journalists have no say in who gets to play for the title.



  54. G-Unit
    3:26 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    13- UNC made 12-18 3’s that game…. thats over 60%…. considering UNC’s season 3pt % was barely 32% I would say UNC played out of their ASS good and STILL got beat by a bunch of freshmen…. dumbass!



  55. Your mom
    3:33 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Looking at his wife, I bet he has a thing for 15 year old boys.



  56. RYNO
    3:35 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    The “best team in CBB” doesn’t lose by 30 to Florida State. They were completely healthy, playing in the middle of January, so they had plenty of time to “improve”.



  57. Yawn~~~~
    3:36 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Yawn~~~~~

    UNC didn’t make Final Four.

    UK ARE 2012 National Champs.

    I really don’t care what gee La’douche here thinks or anyone else.
    Still Champs. You still lost. The end.



  58. Yawn~~~~
    3:39 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    #13 LOL
    #13 Logic – MAN If wall, cousins,Knight, had stayed AND the Kanter could play AND X’ Henry did come here AND Patrick PAterson was allowed to have a 5th and 6th year to play…MAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!
    UK would have had the Best team EVER….

    Man that ALMOST HAPPENED…



  59. MachoCat
    3:43 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    I LOVE BEING BACK ON TOP!!!!

    All this hate towards UK or USC or New England who evere is the best people hate them because they suck and can only wish they or their team was as great.

    AHHHH It’s good to be the King!

    Hail to the King Baby!

    HOO HOO or anyone else when you make a comment just remember * Baby SWEET



  60. okolona max
    3:43 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    I will forever believe that Mr.Gottlieb is a credit card thief! what a douchbag! can u say Big Blue/ Coach Cal ENVY? GR8NESS



  61. anthonydavisarmpit
    3:45 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Woulda coulda maybe shoulda, but wasn’t. Moving on to claim #9.



  62. okolona max
    3:46 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    and is that your wife in that picture or your brother? geez that’s one UGLY thang!!!!!



  63. Mainstream Truth
    3:54 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    44. Thank You for realizing my satire…
    UNC shot the lights out from three that game in Rupp
    they also played on a retarded aircraft carrier
    they also claim they have 6 national championships with their helms trophy which is not accurate
    UK also had only two losses in questionable settings last season
    UK crushed teams all year and ran through the tournament in impressive fashion
    UNC could not stay in front of their shadows on the defensive end
    And the draft pick bs was just thrown in there for good measure



  64. Han
    4:15 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    I love how UK beating them early in the season is a fluke, and the same with Kansas. Beating them early in the season doesn’t count because Kansas got better. As if we didn’t. And then we beat them again. Yet somehow we didn’t deserve it. Not many teams have had a harder road the last 2 years and we had a Final 4 and a Title.



  65. JackB
    4:19 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Sometimes the best team did not win the championship. The ’83 and ’97 Cats. The UNLV team that lost to Duke. The Houston Team that lost to NCState. But last year was not one of those years. UNC and UK were the best teams, and UK had a better record, won the head to head, and beat the team that beat UNC the week before. Yes, UNC had a bad injury. That can change the course of your season (see, ’97 Cats). Welcome to life. Wear a big fuzzy orange cowboy hat shaped helmet and get over it.



  66. 1ukfan
    4:34 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Doesn’t matter. He is one of the 3 or 4 analysts that cannot say anything good about UK. He’s just mad that the team he hates most, won it all.



  67. Real UK Fan
    4:44 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    I guess the only question we need to answer is this: Is Mr. Gottlieb better and analyzing sports teams or stealing credit cards?



  68. John Ellis
    4:54 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Gottlieb said on camera more than once last season that UK was the best team. He’s being clever again. A bore.



  69. Yentel
    5:01 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    is adam levine gottlieb’s step son?



  70. Bradley
    5:05 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Gottlieb’s opinion is as broken as his jumper. He’s not stealing my joy…or credit card.



  71. Voice of Reason
    5:05 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    If UNC has their full team with Marshall, Strickland, and McDonald not sitting out, you cannot say they would’ve had a good shot at winning the whole thing.



  72. thewaitfor8
    5:21 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Voice of Reason, I think your double negative just made the opposite point that you were trying to make.



  73. thewaitfor8
    5:22 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    I could care less who thinks what team was the best last season. UK is the Champs. That’s all that matters.



  74. theWilkman
    5:25 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    So glad I don’t have to listen to this tool on ESPN radio on my drive home from work any more



  75. Michael
    5:28 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    71 So you’re saying UNC didn’t have a shot with their best team? What kind of shot did UNC have without them then?



  76. My credit card
    5:43 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Doug Gottlieb’s wallet smells like ass.



  77. doug
    5:45 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    gottlieb’s a chump thief



  78. Ed
    5:56 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Gottlieb’s giant cowboy hat is obviously squeezing his massive ego too tightly! If he could pull his GIANT HEAD out of Ole’ Roy’s ass, he may be able to think clearly.



  79. Palmetto Cat
    6:11 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Only one reason to even make those comments: to say suck it Kentucky fans. Hey Doug, have you seen my credit card?



  80. BBN-logic is an oxymoron
    7:09 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    I’m sure the first,second,ad infinitum excuse for UK getting beat by UofL this December will be:we’re young, we’re young.



  81. Mark
    7:47 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t think a team that was beaten by 33 points
    can be considered the best team in the nation.



  82. Katdaddy
    8:06 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Last time i heard the hardware is in lexington baby!



  83. barn
    8:22 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    is gottlieb the one with the big nose in the cowboy hat, or the one with the big nose to the left of the one with the big nose in the cowboy hat?



  84. barn free
    8:37 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    @25.
    Clay Aiken is related to the Greeks (as in Onassis).
    His middle name is Myassis.
    Clay “Myassis” Aiken.



  85. Ed
    9:41 pm August 9, 2012 Permalink

    Hey #80, someone in loserville must own a dictionary. Now, pick it up, stand in front of a mirror, look-up MORON, read, then gaze directly into said mirror. If you still think UK will be beaten by the dirty birds, then see MIRACLE in the same dictionary.



  86. Bigbluecalizone
    11:03 am August 10, 2012 Permalink

    This reminds me of the time my uncles Coon Dog got whipped during a shakeout and ran back to the truck while the other 2 dogs fought the coon. My uncle said “I think my dog would have done good if he hadn’t got scared.”