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Let’s put this to bed

One topic that’s been getting way too much play since the game’s conclusion is the question of whether Marquis Teague traveled as he was running the clock out. The first I saw of this was Dan Wolken whining all over his Twitter feed about it. I jacked a low quality video (the best I could find) from YouTube and I trimmed it to the play in question. The debate is over what occurred between the fourth and seventh second of the video.

Honestly, it’s hard to tell but it looked like he traveled with about 0.8 seconds left on the game clock. He took three steps before throwing the ball down and running to the bench. One case I saw for him not walking was that the North Carolina player tipped the ball out of his hand and he lost it briefly. I don’t know if I buy that, though. I think he walked. That being said, I don’t think that it’s as big a deal as everyone is making it out to be. North Carolina made no effort to foul when they could have with five seconds left. The Tar Heels had waved the white flag and the referees acknowledged that.

If one of the UNC players was chasing after Teague trying to foul him and he did the same thing, then the whistle should have been blown. I don’t think that they should be rewarded when they were no longer making an effort to win the game though. After the intensity of that game and the insanity of Rupp, I think the refs were too busy breathing sighs of relief to notice Teague’s pre-celebration happy feet.

Anyone who is upset that UK won and is using this play as their primary argument for poor officiating benefiting the Cats needs to be reminded of the ridiculous overturned out of bounds call late in the game under the UNC basket that resulted in a Harrison Barnes three. There were questionable calls both ways, but for the most part this officiating team was pretty good and let the teams play. Making a fuss about this call is just whining for the sake of whining.

Now let’s stop talking about it.

Article written by Matthew Hays

70 Comments for Let’s put this to bed



  1. blindsided
    1:37 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    first



  2. blindsided
    1:40 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    He walked but there is no way that the refs are gonna call that especially after the Carolina players had given up. Plus that non call did not cost them the game. Had no impact what so-ever



  3. Sheriff Buford T. Justice
    1:42 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Agreed



  4. Poco Chang
    1:43 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    If you want goobers to stop talking about, disable comments on this post.



  5. JokersContractExtension
    1:44 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    If UNC forgets to play the last five seconds, I think we can forgive Teague for not playing the last second of the game.



  6. R U FO REALZ?
    1:47 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    who cares? is this really a big deal? people won’t shut up about this. the game was friggin over.



  7. KyTom
    1:48 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    But, that has happened in the past with others and it DID cost their team. Just make sure it doesn’t happen again is all I can say.



  8. Skip
    1:51 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    but, but, the most bestest player in the universe, Harrison Barnes, would have taken the ball at half court, suspended time, and hit a three to win!!!! UNC was cheateds.



  9. Gavin S.
    1:52 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Maybe you should post this on the Cards board, as they’re the retards trying to make a deal of this.



  10. tyson
    1:52 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    why is nobody talking about the good play of Eloy Vargas the last two games? He has been playing TOUGH and not making any mistakes. Very improved!



  11. Brett
    1:53 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Look closer, Teague starts “traveling” at .2 seconds. His second step was at .4 and he doesn’t travel until his third step, right? So, he traveled at .2 seconds and the human body will NEVER catch an inbounds and get a shot off within .2 seconds. Derek Fisher and his .4 shot against the Spurs was almost waved off.

    According to basketball rules, Teague did not travel.



  12. RidgeRunner
    1:54 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Agreed… Geeze.



  13. hey
    1:54 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Im watching the UK UL Womens game, half the basketball team is there and some of the football players are there, but what surprised me is that stacey poole is there ??? whats up with that, is he giving up on his bball career?



  14. LineBeardGangsta
    1:55 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    They low down, they dirty, they some snitches… I just hate ’em.



  15. TampaCat
    1:56 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Time to think “Indiana.” I hope the players will understand that a win against the CATS in Bloomington will make their entire season. Be ready CATS! Go Blue.



  16. ???
    1:57 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Hmm ive review it and all i see is unc losing



  17. gcat4496
    2:00 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    So lets say they call the walk. UNC gets the ball at half court with .008 seconds left which means they have to catch and shoot in one motion. If they ran that play 100,000 times it might work once. Get over it.



  18. Tony Greene
    2:04 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    If you look right before he travels, the UNC player reaches in to foul. There was no call, then the Teague travels. If anything Teague should be at the line with 0.8 on the clock – unfortunately he probably misses.



  19. HillbillyInBC
    2:04 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Anybody whining about the zebras needs to start with that vicious hack on MKG (would’ve been two minutes for slashing in hockey).



  20. Cotton Headed Ninny Muggins
    2:06 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    #19 said exactly what I was going to say….I noticed that yesterday. The UNC player clearly reaches in for the intentional foul before the travel.



  21. Mack
    2:07 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    It COSTED unc the game!



  22. Inspector Underwear
    2:09 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    I don’t think he traveled at all. Looks to me like he kept dribbling and switched the ball to his left. From that point on, he just let the ball go, not a travel.



  23. Ira Tatum
    2:09 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Great question. For all intents and purposes, the game was over, as evidenced by no UNC defender contesting Teague’s advancement towards KENTUCKY’s half court and/or basket. Somewhat analogously, in Football, if a pass is overthrown, and the receiver has no possible chance of catching the footbal, yet there is defensive interference, a proper and judicious ‘no-call’ is appropriate.
    In this case, no call was made; I concur with the several ref’s decision.



  24. Vick Oh
    2:14 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Ain’t no mole hill high enough.



  25. #1catfan
    2:17 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Terrence jones traveled when he pivoted just before he pump faked henson and had that huge dunk over zeller. He used to different pivot feet. But who cares, we won. Refs are never perfect, everygame i’ve watched no matter who it is thats playing, there are always missed calls and bad calls. It’s part of the game really, they cant catch everything.



  26. CalifCatFan
    2:19 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Still, Teague should have been more careful with the ball in those closing seconds.



  27. ???
    2:26 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    I hate uk fans
    Shut the he ll up we won
    U act like we lost
    Stop finding stuff to biotch about
    Bunch of old grumpy sum biochs



  28. Ukfan4life
    2:30 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    How bout the Bo call when mkg has both arms ripped off?



  29. The Big Dog
    2:30 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    I think the Inspector is right- he let go of the ball and that is not a walk. Besides, it’s not a walk unless it is called a walk. Just like when NC sent Kidd Gilcrhist to the floor after almost dislocating his shoulder was only our ball out of bounds. Also agree that Teague showed his immaturity by not protecting the ball.



  30. blindsided
    2:32 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    #25–noticed the same thing about Jones when he pivoted before the dunk. But if you notice , its never called in ANY game. Watched a Duke player switched pivot feet 3 times last year with no call. Nature of the game I guess.



  31. RidgeRunner
    2:35 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    29…he did dislocate it according to his interview. He then snapped it back into place.



  32. Peyton Siva
    2:38 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    I think he had another step or two coming before he needed to put down a dribble.



  33. Perfect Patterson
    2:40 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Teague should have chucked the ball to the rafters to make sure the last few seconds went off the clock without getting fouled



  34. InternationalPhilosophy
    2:43 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Dead horse.



  35. Manchester
    2:44 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    I agree with #11. Even if the walk occurred at .08 seconds, the referee has to blow the whistle and the clock operator has to stop the clock. I’d submit that the horn would sound before the clock operator reacted. The most time the refs might put back on the clock would be .6 seconds (but would probably be more like .3 seconds) which means no dribble, no move, just catch and shoot. The in-bounds would be from half-court. Williams calls a timeout to draw up a play, but before they throw the ball in, Cal takes a timeout to draw up his defense, which takes away UNC’s first option. The chances of a field goal in this case are miniscule. The walk call/non-call is meaningless.



  36. Steely Dan
    2:44 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    He started the travel at .8 seconds left. He didn’t actually travel (put the third foot down) until the game was over or with about .1 seconds left. Not enough time to get up a shot



  37. Stallings'Baldspot
    2:45 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Dude you know you posted the same video but in much better quality three posts before this right? What’s with the “I jacked a low quality video (the best I could find) from YouTube”
    Anyway moot point. Incredible block, awesome game.



  38. RidgeRunner
    2:47 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    My head hurts…



  39. WSFLWildcat
    2:47 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    I thought he walked when I watched it live. I did a couple of re-winds just to see for sure. But it doesn’t really matter in this case. This incident like all others just needs to be something players learn from. By March all will be well, players will have grown up, plays will be perfected and the Cats will be hitting on all cylinders. Go CATS!!!



  40. Walden Schmidt
    2:51 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Geez, enough of this crap.



  41. JPhelps
    3:08 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    I hope Eamonn Brennan read that last paragraph (even though I’m pretty sure he’s not a rabid follower of KSR). Wrote in his post game analysis that it was an obvious missed call that potentially cost UNC the game! Garbage. You can tell that the Calipari haters were fuming yesterday that their theory of talent never defeats experience was debunked!



  42. Helvete
    3:16 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Patrick Sparks travelled before the three point shot, too!



  43. Ukfan4life
    3:28 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Missed calls are in every game and northcarolina got the most of them, miller blocks Strickland on a jumper and it’s called a foul it was clean, the charge on Mkg where the defender moved into his path as he went for a layup. Point is your just crying cuz you lost deal with it!



  44. Kraig
    3:29 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    All I see is a #1 next to Kentucky’s name….for a 2nd week in a row.



  45. Designated Drinker
    3:30 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Most notable no call was when MKG almost had his forearm broken and laid on the floor in pain.



  46. Ukfan4life
    3:35 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    If the refs would have made that call, they would be admitting to trying to give the game to carolina. No ref would have made that call. At this point the game was over and that call could have gave the game to carolina.



  47. UKGoBigBlue
    3:45 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    We took off like the clock had run out. Someone needs to seriously knock Teague upside the head & knock some sense into this kid. Teague is starting to become the more talented version of Poole.



  48. Tony Delk00
    3:46 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    As long as one person caught Teague’s ear and told him not to do this again, consider it a learning opportunity.



  49. Walden Schmidt
    3:48 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    y



  50. Zack C
    4:01 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    First Gilchrist gets tomahawked then Doron Lamb gets called for what has to be the worst charge call I’ve ever seen yet the mothership’s writers say UNC “derserves” a rematch because Teague walked?!? Am I the only one that saw him get a forearm in the back as he was picking up the ball? This is just silly.



  51. buzzard
    4:08 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    What was the call when they overturned the out of bounds call that should have been UK’s ball around the 3:30 mark?. There was NO WAY the ball was UNC’s. Then they hit a 3.



  52. mike burks
    4:25 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Love seeing Card fans whine. Here is a team that cheated against Vandy, such as Kuric sliding and kicking a Vandy player. What did the Big East refs call? Out of bounds against Vandy.



  53. nkycat88
    4:30 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    he dribbled until the clock ran down. how is that close to a walk?



  54. Will
    4:55 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    I watched in slow motion multiple times. He didnt travel. If you watch it in slow motion, he takes two steps then with less than 0.4 seconds he no longer has control of the ball when he takes his third step. No travel.



  55. Will
    4:55 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    I watched in slow motion multiple times. He didnt travel. If you watch it in slow motion, he takes two steps then with less than 0.4 seconds he no longer has control of the ball when he takes his third step. No travel.



  56. bigbluecats
    5:10 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    All this whole thing is is the crybabies that think UK doesnt deserve to be #1 and it kills them that a team this young this early in the year is better than everyone else and will only improve. Even Roy Williams wasnt bitching about it at the end. UNC had almost 5 seconds to fould and push this game out but stood around looking stupid. Its their fault not Teagues. And I cant wait for UK to smack UL right in the mouth on New Years Eve and see how much they say we got lucky then



  57. beau
    5:16 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    looks like a unc player fouled teague before the so called travel.



  58. gary
    5:34 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    no whistle, no travel, done, let it go.



  59. NCcat
    5:49 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Just stop this second guessing shit….



  60. NCcat
    5:50 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    What the hell is gained with this crap??



  61. rand2010
    6:03 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Clearly was pushed from behind by the UNC player. Get over it UNC had already accepted the fact they were going to loose.



  62. mkg
    6:32 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Meanwhile, MKG is standing under the basket wide open for a dunk. So … yes, we could have just put one away at the end but UNC conceded so we didn’t.



  63. kycatfl1
    8:05 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Dicky Beal traveled against Illinois!



  64. UK'64
    8:18 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    Sounds more like Kansas fans to me. Can you even
    get a shot off with.8 seconds left?



  65. Snoozer
    9:06 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    That was a travel. You would have to be a freaking idiot to think it wasn’t.



  66. oldkentucky
    9:39 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    It was not traveling! The end.



  67. blueblood91
    9:59 pm December 4, 2011 Permalink

    even if they did call the travel when his other foot actually hits the floor to make it a travel there is only .3 seconds on the clock only enough time by rule for a tip in no way they score anyway



  68. ok-cats-computer
    2:40 am December 5, 2011 Permalink

    I thought it was a travel when I saw it live. Teague had a very poor ending to that game. Teague was lucky when Anthony bailed him out with a block, and Teague was lucky when the refs failed to call him on the last second travel. I’m hoping Teague improves so that his decision making matches his high level of talent, but at this juncture I would feel more comfortable letting Lamb play the point in the last minutes of a close game.



  69. proudswimdad
    8:59 am December 5, 2011 Permalink

    Teague was clearly fouled at the end,just rewind it over and over again and you can see the push on his lower back before the travel.REF JUST COST THEM THE opportunity to go to the line with .9 left. Does not matter any UK won with .oo on the clock!



  70. team wiltjer
    11:19 am December 5, 2011 Permalink

    Who cares?all the unc fans will shit their pants over this, just admit you lost to a beeter team #bowtothebrow