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Did Illinois AD Report the Redacted Rose?

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You might have missed Illinois AD Ron Guenther’s comment yesterday after Memphis released its Derrick “Redacted” Rose investigation information. The Chicago Sun-Times reports:

llinois athletic director Ron Guenther spoke up about the Rose scandal over the weekend. Illinois was one of the final three schools on Rose’s list.

“We understood what was going on (with Rose) all along,” Guenther told the Champaign News-Gazette. “The sport of men’s basketball has issues that the NCAA has been trying to address. There are many tentacles to the problem, so there is no magic bullet to solve it. It has been a focal point for discussions in this conference for more than 10 years. We’ve had task forces looking into the AAU, the shoe money, the agent.”

The Illinois Athletics Department knew Rose was fishy all along! So did they report Rose to the NCAA?

Memphis first received notice of a possible invalid SAT in May 2008 via a letter from the Educational Testing Service. (The ETS is not an entity of the NCAA.) According to Memphis, the school investigated and could not find enough evidence to suggest Rose’s SAT test was taking by someone other than Rose. The NCAA raided the Memphis Athletic Department due to the women’s golf program going on a shopping spree sometime after May 2008. The NCAA’s notice of allegations letter was sent to Memphis on January 16th, 2009. It seems that the NCAA discovered the SAT situation once it had full-access to the Memphis Athletic Department’s records due to the women’s golf violations — and it seems that Derrick Rose’s violations were NOT directly reported to the NCAA.

According to the NCAA Bylaws, it appears that the Illinois Athletic Department members do have an ethical responsibility to report what they knew about Derrick Rose to the NCAA:


Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member (e.g., coach, professor, tutor, teaching assistant, student manager, student trainer) may include, but is not limited to, the following: (Revised: 1/10/90, 1/9/96, 2/22/01)

(j) Failure to provide complete and accurate information to the NCAA, the NCAA Eligibility Center or the institution’s athletics department regarding an individual’s amateur status. (Adopted: 1/8/07, Revised: 5/9/07

I have no idea if AD Ron Guenther or anybody else within the Illinois program informed the NCAA about the situation involving Derrick Rose. But it seems that the NCAA & Memphis had no legitimate proof involving Rose’s problems until that May 2008 letter from ETS. Either Guenther is exaggerating what actual facts he knew about Derrick Rose while Guenther’s basketball program was recruiting Rose, or Guenther potentially committed an NCAA violation.

And more importantly — would have Guenther said anything at all if Rose committed to Illinois?

Article written by The Fake Gimel Martinez

I may be fake, but my passion for UK sports is real. Probably put all my best work at and, so go there when I start coasting here.