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Deandre or Daniel?

Writers covering the Oklahoma City Thunder have tweeted over the last 48 hours that the fight for the final roster spot for the Thunder is between Deandre Liggins and Daniel Orton. The two former Cats were both brought in from Orlando and now only one is likely to make the team’s 15 man roster for Opening Day. Reports are that the Thunder like Liggins more as a player, but are also fond of Orton’s size. Two Kentucky brothers fighting for one spots. Who you got?

Article written by Matt Jones

56 Comments for Deandre or Daniel?



  1. Deepsouthfan
    10:32 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    LIGGINS!!!!



  2. Walsh is Gay
    10:33 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    C’mon Matt. Asking UK fans who they got between Liggins and Orton is like asking UK fans who they got between Cal and Joker. Both are Kentucky guys, but Liggins is beloved, and an actual contributor.

    The most interesting part about Daniel Orton is cheering for him in the stands, when he’s not making ridiculous comments about his son.



  3. Wildcat Bill
    10:34 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins, without a doubt.



  4. everybody
    10:35 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins



  5. jymbo
    10:40 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins, he finished his class assignments, so he’s more of a Cat than Orton will ever be.



  6. Lane
    10:41 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    Easily Liggins. Orton is the only player during the Calipari era that I’ve, and I think I speak for most of BBN, been disapointing and I really don’t picture him as a “family” member of BBN either.



  7. james bradley
    10:41 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    I like liggins but if Ortons knee is o.k.
    I would rtake him because of size good hands and shot blocking. But i hope its DeAndre



  8. Uncle Ted
    10:43 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    He is NOT a good kid



  9. xryanx
    10:51 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    come on man…… this one isn’t even close…… if orton does make it…..its just because he is a big body and they may need the fouls and defense of a big man……. i’d take liggins every day of the week and twice on sunday….i know they are really solid at the guard spot, but i really wanna see liggins on a good team….



  10. Dorian54
    10:54 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins!!!! He is a defensive juggernaut, and he set the tone defensively for the next young cats to look up to, at the guard spot. I love him miss him and know he will make the team.



  11. Dear UL and IU fans, We are national champions; you are not. The end.
    10:54 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    Orton can guarantee you 8 points a game, for the other team.



  12. Jones Returns
    10:56 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    So we’ve got Liggins, Orton, Jorts and Teague hanging on to NBA dreams by a thread… 3 of those 4 left early. Just saying … I feel like a ton of guys from this years team will have to leave after this year for the NBA in order to make room for the monster class of ’13-’14 but if they do they may be in a similar position as these guys in a couple of years. Is that the best thing for these players to do? Honestly it may be…just asking. Cause honestly its not going to look good of in 2 to 3 years we have a handful of guys who left early for the league and are no longer playing … certainly never hurt anyone to make a few hundred thousand dollars, but could tgeor NBA careers have lasted longer if they had developed more at th collegiate level? Just a thought…#GoCats



  13. Rick
    11:00 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    Orton is soft as Charmin! his daddy say he all-star though



  14. MJ4UK
    11:01 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins all the way…Orton is the only player in Cal’s tenure who has a severe me complex and attitude problem



  15. Shampoo
    11:07 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    DeAndre no contest.



  16. Andre
    11:11 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    DeAndre’ Liggins



  17. J Jones
    11:26 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    #12 I agree with you these guys are leaving that are not ready for the nba. Orton and liggins both should of stayed in school. I wrote in an earlier post that teague will not last in the nba. If he can!t get any playing time now with rose out he sure will not play when he gets back. Orton and liggins are 2 of my least favorite cats. Orton for not finishing his class work and liggins for refusing to go back in a game out in vegas. I would pick liggins because he can play defense which is a valuable commodity in the nba.



  18. Vincent
    11:26 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    There isn’t even a debate. Liggins.



  19. Jody Thompsons Mustache
    11:37 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    I think it would be Liggins although Orton has avg. 13 ppg. Thats against guys that well never get in or won’t make teams!! Thundrer already have 5 guys at his size/position. Ibaka, Aldrich, .Perkins Perry Jones from Baylor, Thabeet. Liggins is a stopper which OKC lacks outside of Sefalosha think I got his name right!? Liggins makes more sense and plays team ball better than Orton. My vote is Liggins for those very obvious reasons!! BTW Liggins avg. More Reb. Than Orton!!! Too soft for the NBA.



  20. Topical Pseudonym
    11:49 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    The way Orton left was not cool at all (not finishing class and hurting our APR) – Liggins all the way



  21. Orton says
    11:52 pm October 21, 2012 Permalink

    I can’t get up mf’er or make it to class, or make the Magic



  22. Chi-TownCat
    12:03 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins all day



  23. Rae
    12:08 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    12. Your sample there isn’t a very representative sample of Cal’s recruiting. Orton was BCG’s and an idiot. I do think he could have done better with more time in school, but I have difficulty thinking of him in the ame way as I think of other guys who played for Cal. Liggins saw an opportunity to provide for his child and took it; one year wouldn’t have made that much of a difference, especially since he might not have even been drafted the next year. He was between a rock and a hard place. He was also a BCG recruit, one that not many expected to be in this position even. Jorts graduated and was again, a BCG guy. The only guy on your list who is a genuine Cal recruit, a one-and-done guy, is Teague, and I think we should wait a year before making judgments in that situation. You might be right about him, but he has only barely started his career.



  24. Huh
    12:22 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    #12 I thought 1st round picks had guaranteed contracts.. If so, Teague isn’t hanging on by a thread. He is developing in an environment were he can concentrate on basketball 24/7. If he can’t develop there, more time in college sure as heck wouldn’t help. Your only valid point is Orton and he may have done what was best for him by leaving and getting paid before his lack of ability was expose when he really had to play in college.



  25. Corey
    12:34 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins!!!



  26. Happy fan...
    12:48 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    I smile everytime I think about Liggins hitting that 3 on UNC to send the Cats to the Final Four!!! Liggins is one of my all-time favorites.



  27. facts
    1:55 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    If any NBA team keeps Orton over Liggins because of Orton’s size…..they deserve to lose every game they play this year. Because being big and sucking at basketball does not help you win as much as being smaller and being good at basketball. If you don’t believe me, ask Gimel Martinez.



  28. jetblue
    3:23 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Choose? I CAN’T MOTHERF#$%^R!



  29. Liggins
    3:28 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    If Orton had my heart, he’d be an All-Star



  30. Costanza
    4:15 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    It’s not exactly between Orton and Liggins. It’s between them those two and 3 other guys. They both could end up in the D league or get cut.



  31. SeoulCat
    4:37 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Easily rooting for Liggins.

    Come on, Daniel! S.Korea’s K-League awaits! International rules apply, so you can swat shots off of the rim all day! Think of the goaltending possibilities!!!



  32. TopCat
    7:02 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Get ’em Liggins!



  33. firsttubelast
    7:22 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins. where can I send my vote to?



  34. Mack
    8:04 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins of course, changed so much since his first semester. No hate for Orton, wonder how often he wished he had handled his time here and mostly his time in leaving differently and not taken the advice he followed?



  35. Al B. Sure
    8:12 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins.



  36. Blue One
    8:23 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins all the way!



  37. Buckets
    8:41 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t claim Daniel Orton as a former Wildcat. He screwed the program over and made us all look bad.



  38. WildcatFan
    8:56 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Now, that’s a stupid question….seriously? Hands down, LIGGINS!



  39. Dr Mantis Taboggin
    8:57 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    What #37 said, I just don’t want Orton to succeed and with his stupidity he won’t. He boned the program by leaving when he wasn’t supposed to and did nothing that season anyway. Enjoy the NBDL.



  40. Season Never Ends
    9:02 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins. His shot vs. UNC — and the embrace with Cal afterward — should be on the highlight reel for years to come.



  41. J.D.
    9:02 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Totally agree with #26. I already liked Liggins because of his defense and heart, but when he hit that 3 against UNC in the Elite Eight game (after getting in Harrison Barnes’ head all day), he became one of my favorite Cats of the Cal era. The hug that Cal gave him in the ensuing timeout was priceless–lots of love there. Liggins all the way.



  42. Hoops Malone
    9:06 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    It’ll be Orton.



  43. JackB
    9:25 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Are we still giving Liggins grief over the Las Vegas thing? Really? Two words: (1) it was Billy G; and (2) Liggins owned up to the mistake and made up for it over 2 years of all out effort and good attitude. While we too often make unnecessary excuses for people – Liggins did atone.

    As for the “leaving early and not able to stay in the league stuff” – two points: (1) it is easier to get better at basketball as a pro than as a college student – this “he could have developed with more time at UK and then been a long time pro” stuff is bull. (2) Both made the right decision. Orton was a first round pick meaning he got to earn for 3 years. Had he returned, that knee problem would have become well known, and he likely would have never been drafted. Liggins had a family – he needed to start earning money. If he doesn’t make it in the NBA, he will earn money elsewhere. Lots of UK players are making good livings playing ball outside the NBA.



  44. OneAndDone
    9:25 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins all day. Game on the line (on either side of the ball) you definitely want Liggins instead of Orton.



  45. OneAndDone
    9:31 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    43) I’m gonna respectfully disagree on 2 points. I think for someone as young as Orton, it would be much easier to get better in college under a coach who cares about YOU instead of a pro team that cares about their “business”.
    2nd, while Jorts benefitted from Orton leaving, I don’t think there is much doubt that Orton would have benefitted greatly from returning and starting at center for a final 4 team, and having another year of Cal to get his head ready for the pros and polish his skills.



  46. RealCatsFan
    9:41 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    If you want a good attitude keep Liggins, if you want a prima donna, keep Orton. Simple as that.



  47. Head Bussa
    9:47 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    I have a feeling DeAndre is going to make this team.



  48. Hunter S. Thomspon
    10:04 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    #12 I would agree with your statement but you forget that teague is the only one of the players you mentioned that was actually recruited by Cal. Teague is a teenage rookie trying to learn to play for one of the most demanding defensive coaches in the NBA…he will be fine



  49. Josh in Oklahoma
    10:11 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Don’t forget that Orton is an OKC guy. He went to high school here and is still very popular. OKC is a town that loves its own. That being said, Liggins is a better back up for Sefolosha and can provide perimeter defense, which the Thunder need. Orton provides fouls on Dwight Howard and the Lakers, but against the Heat, Liggins is more important. I think Liggins barely makes it and Orton to D-League, though he gets called up for an injury replacement at some point.



  50. jpay
    10:22 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins…. Orton is a stiff…



  51. UKsparkyJohn
    10:48 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins all the way. Orton is a joke. #12 Why wouldn’t anyone go. If a guy gets cut he can still go overseas and make more money than most of us. If his game inproves he comes back. Happens all the time. Teague may take awhile but will catch on, just like his brother.



  52. Justin
    10:52 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Eff Orton! He left BBN with a big screw you by not finsishing the term. Liggins did right by BBN. Go LIGGINS!!!



  53. kybigblue
    11:38 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins finished his last semester at UK unlike Orton. I have to pull for Liggins.



  54. Liggins
    11:43 am October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins is a high-character kid and a monster on defense. He has my vote.



  55. sangaman
    12:58 pm October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Obviously everyone here should should/does like Liggins more. Liggins was a major contributor, played with determination and a sense of urgency, persisted through some rough patches in his UK career, and left the school in good standing. I don’t think you can say any of that about Orton.



  56. UK Blue Is 4EVER
    5:42 pm October 22, 2012 Permalink

    Liggins without Question!