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Dave Baker: “What UK Fans Deserve”

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Get a dose of professionalism from Dave “Buzz” Baker below as he shares his post-Louisville thoughts on what UK football fans deserve…

Losing to your in-state rival is NEVER good. Losing to a Louisville team in the middle of a building process on your field is BAD and the way it happened does not bode well for the rest of this season and certainly beyond. Is it fixable? Yes! Will it be easy? Absolutely not.

In the couple of days since the defeat, I’ve heard various people talking in person (and over the airwaves) about what UK fans “deserve”. Let me say this, some of them deserve a swift kick in the backside! It’s been reported to me that after Saturday’s loss, when Offensive Coordinator Randy Sanders and his family came home, there were “For Sale” signs in his yard. Good Gosh–grow up people! Now this certainly doesn’t rise to the level of that darn guy who poisoned the Auburn trees, but really? It’s one of those stories you hear on the news and the last line the anchor reads is: “Officials believe alcohol was involved.”

It was Sanders who could’ve put out the moving signs himself after the year he had with Andre Woodson in 2007. All Woodson did was lead the SEC in passing yardage, total offense, and touchdown passes, including an SEC record of 40 TD strikes. LOTS of folks wanted Randy Sanders then. So what’s the difference now? Players and their supporting cast. That’s NO disrespect to Morgan Newton, but he ain’t no Andre Woodson and again no disrespect, but he’s not throwing to Dicky Lyons or Jacob Tamme.

Sure the coaches are ultimately responsible and they’ll be held responsible for what’s happened. Sanders didn’t tell me about this incident and he might very well deny it, but that’s ONLY because he’s one of the classiest people I’ve met in this business. He went through a situation like this in Tennessee and handled it with more grace than most of us could’ve dreamed of having. Unfortunately, it’s part of a disturbing trend from UK fans. Mike Archer blitzed too much, Steve Brown didn’t blitz enough. If you truly want an example of a coach who should’ve been fired for the way he used his talent, then raise your hand if you remember Bill Curry and Offensive Coordinator, Eliot Uzelac, having Tim Couch run the option of bad artificial turf field in Cincinnati.

Randy knows this is part of the deal in his chosen profession and so does his wife. His two daughters don’t. I’m sorry they were subjected to that foolishness and hope you realize that’s not how adults deal with conflict.

RANDOM THOUGHTS

This time next year, the SEC will be in the process of putting together its own TV Network. I believe West Virginia and Missouri will join Texas A&M as new SEC members and I believe that Mike Slive is quietly trying to reel in the biggest prize in conference realignment: Notre Dame.

A number of schools have now hired outside firms (Tennessee has contracted IMG) to sell tickets to its sporting events. I don’t think that’s a bad idea.

What’s the BEST way to improve pre-game atmosphere at Commonwealth? How ’bout TV cameras and having the UK version of College Game Day from the parking lot? You could play it on the Video Board and distribute the audio on one of those low frequency carriers like the ones around airports. Drew Franklin could be roving reporter. (Oh yeah, that’s where the phrase “officials believe alcohol was involved” is the news anchor’s last line!)

Best way to improve fan attitudes at Commonwealth? How ’bout another cell tower & infrastructure? In this “technological world” that place has the worst wi-fi and cell service of any similar facility I’ve been to.

Sign of the apocalypse? Not the Louisville loss and not Nancy Grace on “Dancing with the Stars”, but 67 year old @WildcatNews (Oscar Combs) tweeting about seeing the Glenn Miller Orchestra in concert! #OMG

Article written by Thomas Beisner

53 Comments for Dave Baker: “What UK Fans Deserve”



  1. grassmaster
    11:23 am September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Come on Buzz, Notre Dame, really?…I doubt it, but if that happened, wow



  2. healer
    11:30 am September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Sanders get any offers



  3. healer
    11:31 am September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Sanders get any offers?



  4. tyson
    11:33 am September 20, 2011 Permalink

    I disagree with the first half of your post, except the Bill Curry part, but totally agree with all of your Random Thoughts. Good article Mr. Baker



  5. bnoe
    11:38 am September 20, 2011 Permalink

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  6. Kernel Sanders
    11:47 am September 20, 2011 Permalink

    #4 What in the first part of the post can you possibly disagree with? As Baker says, it is never good to lose to your instate rival is it? You disagree that somebody put for sale signs in Sanders’ yard? You deny that Woodson had 40 td passes in ’07? Do you see a Keenan Burton, Dicky Lyons, Tamme or Cobb on the field for UK? You don’t remember fans bashing Archer who blitzed and got burned? You don’t recall Brown being bashed for his vanilla defense? LOL, do tell what is incorrect about any of his post?



  7. hersheyisabear
    11:51 am September 20, 2011 Permalink

    The for sale signs in the yard is pretty dang funny lol.



  8. Guck Foodman
    11:53 am September 20, 2011 Permalink

    I completely agree about an additional cell phone tower. You can’t even send text messages to find friends at a game.



  9. Tobias Funke
    11:58 am September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Commonwealth would rather news not travel too fast out of its confines. No need to spread those ugly images far and wide.



  10. UKfanNKY
    11:59 am September 20, 2011 Permalink

    The for sale signs are just plain STUPID!!! Sounds like something UofL and Tn fans do. Wake up people that is NO CLASS what so ever!!! GO CATS!!!



  11. DerbyDemon
    12:03 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Let’s see: Randy Sanders is a classy guy; Joker Phillips is a nice guy. BFD. UK STILL sucks.



  12. Enough
    12:04 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Pre-game shows and new sites around the stadium won’t do it. The for sale signs well grow up it’s big time football grow a pair. As for this team we have a coach over his head, and bunch of coaches well I guess can recruit but can’t coach I am talking to you Summers. As for Randy he lived off Payton for years, and now we see why ut sent him packing. If Joker doesn’t wake up maybe a call to Rich Rod will be in the works!



  13. STEVE!
    12:05 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    I don’t think too many people question Sanders ability with Quarterbacks (he got 3,000 yards out of Mike Hartline last season), but we are questioning his play-calling ability. He was not calling plays in 2007. He had the same reputation at UT and was blamed and fired when their offense went down the tubes towards the end of the Fulmer Era. We need to hire an innovative offensive mind at Offensive Coordinator and let Sanders go back to mentoring the Quarterbacks that Joker doesn’t run off.



  14. UKFan
    12:08 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    I agree about the cell towers. It is hilarious that UK has signs posted everywhere, asking people to send a text for emergency help. Those always make me chuckle.

    GO CATS!



  15. G-Man
    12:08 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Sanders and especially Joker have made a living off of the 2007 season. No way we name Joker HC in waiting if it weren’t for the 2007 season. We have basically hired a good recruiter to be our HC. No wonder Joker hired Woodson. Woodson is the reason Joker is the coach.



  16. Mp
    12:08 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Well written Dave. I read somewhere that there’s a big cell upgrade coming after the UF game. So check. The Gameday concept is phenomenal. Love it! I want my own segment!
    For sale signs? Did it when I was 16. High School stunt. If an adult did that they should be forced to come to the UK UofL bb game wearing an Angry Birds T shirt. Not ok.
    Sanders got thrown under the bus by Fulmer so he could save his own carcass. But again, he’d never say that in public. Classy guy. Deserves better.



  17. Tyler Durden
    12:11 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    When I read “Notre Dame to the SEC” my pupils dilated, mouth dropped, utterly shocked.

    And then it hit me. “Noooo friggin way.”

    Irish Catholics will never have anything to do with a campus that resides within 500 miles of the state of Mississippi.

    Hell, I don’t think any school in Miss would want to mess with green leprechaun for that matter.

    If you’re going to dream, DREAM BIG, KIDS!!!



  18. UK FAN
    12:14 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Putting signs in Sanders yard is pretty crappy but don’t take let a couple idiots be the entire voice of the fan base. Did Sanders do a good job as QB coach… YES… Is he doing a good job at OC hell no. For Baker to say UK fans “deserve”. He should tell me what other fans in the nation would rank top 25 football attendance to watch a 500% win football team? UK fans are passionate and pissed off because 1. Coach in Waiting was a failure. 2. Joker way over hyped the team all year long. 3. We are stuck with JOKEr for 2 more year’s because nobody has the nads to fire a AA because of media backlash. People need to get over the skin color and do whats best for the program. Nobody had a problem with Billy G getting canned over 2 year’s and Joker should get the same. Joker is a great guy but he is payed Millions to win football games. He has took this team in 2 year’s back to the curry days.



  19. tangledupinblue
    12:15 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    I’d love to buy dave baker for what he’s worth and sell him for what he thought he was worth . Randy Sanders was q-back’s coach in 2007 dumdass ,not off. coord. , BIG difference . I’m sure this isn’t the first time he’s had for sale signs in his yard [see Tenn]. I wouldn’t do it , but stuff like that happens on every level , even high school . It goes with the territory .



  20. Kwildcat
    12:16 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    good post – however, if Randy Sanders doesn’t want any more signs in his yard why doesn’t he throw some creativity into his playbook…….heck, I hate losing but at least we go out swinging……



  21. My Gator is Hungry
    12:16 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    There is some serious football coming to town Saturday. If Sanders and Joker want to be hailed as great then here’s their chance. The fans deserve better than the two longest consecutive losing streaks IN THE NATION! We suppose to be SEC! Step back Dave and get some perspective.



  22. notBomaniJones
    12:18 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Buzz gets it!



  23. BravoBigBlue
    12:25 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    What this UK football program deserves is for the fans to not give a damn and to not show up. Do you think the fans at Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas, Mississipi State, and even Ole Miss would tolerate a program that is as pathetic as UK’s is year in and year out? Easy answer – NO! Obviously, Vandy fans do tolerate it, same as UK fans have for decades. With all the conference realignment going on, the SEC should consider dropping UK and Vandy as football members. NO JOKE!



  24. Derek
    12:32 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    The 2007 season was great for UK fans but not a great season by SEC standards. Coaches at LSU, UF and Alabama would have been on the hotseat for it. It was 4 years ago. Time to be judged on results.
    The difference in what the admistration thinks about UK basketball and Football is clear. If basketball were like football then when Tubby left Uk would have promoted one of his assitants that had zero head coaching experience to Head Coach of the basketball team or they would have went to Valdosta St to get a coach when Gillispie was fired rather than Cal. End of story.



  25. SeoulCat
    12:44 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    No fan should ever put a “for sale” sign in a coach’s (or anyone else’s) yard. But as with paparazzi following celebrities, putting up with the crazies comes with the territory. If it gets too hot in the kitchen, I’m sure there are a lot of “quieter” jobs out there that Randy could take. Ditto for Joker. They chose to accept high-profile positions, now they must deal with all of the nastiness that comes with a job poorly done. No sympathy from this side of the pond.



  26. Big Blue 66
    12:45 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    did I just hear correctly that West Virginia has been rejected by both ACC and SEC??



  27. Lauren
    12:46 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    I love you, Dave Baker! Preach on!



  28. Kernel Sanders
    12:47 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    #18 Don’t know how many other stadiums you have been to other than Commonwealth. Top 25 in attendance is admirable, but the atmosphere is one of tailgating and by the middle of the 1st Quarter, UK fans are bashing on the team and coaches, booing and cursing. Been that way since Claiborne days as far as I know, and NO other stadium I’ve been to is as bad. It’s stupid to assert Joker won’t be fired because he’s an AA. Just stupid. He won’t be fired (yet) because any coach (even Coach in waiting) deserves more than 16 games to succeed. He won’t be fired because he played at UK, came back to UK, and busts his butt for UK. Does that mean he ultimately is the right coach for the job? No. But it means he deserves a chance and being AA has nothing to do with it….



  29. bubbles
    12:50 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    100% On the cell service…horrible



  30. Brian
    12:55 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Wasn’t Sanders the QB coach in 2007? I dont doubt he is great at that, but I am questioning his playcalling ability and overall skills as OC.



  31. P90Xguy
    12:56 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Only way to show Joker and staff how dissatified the fan base is to not buy season tickets. This is the most non-competitive team since the Bill Curry days. How in heck could the coaches let a talent like Ryan Massokowski get away?



  32. Nan
    12:59 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    I think the problem here that people claim to be fans and are really just a bunch of knuckleheads that feel entitled, for some reason, to flame any and everyone they wish because they have either bought a ticket for a game once, or at some point in their life wore a UK shirt. It’s just a pity that manners and common sense has disappeared in this age of anonymous slandering. Be a man and say this crap to people’s faces, put the sign up while he’s home. Let’s see how brave you are then. And if you all were as smart as you think you are, why aren’t you coaching your own team on Saturdays?



  33. btowncatfan
    1:00 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Put down the crack pipe Buzz, Notre Dame? Haha, you cant’ be serious.



  34. realistically speaking
    1:09 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Let’s get real here for a minute. Everyone is getting upset about the play calling, but lets look at this realistically speaking. If a team cant throw the ball, catch the ball, run the ball, or block someone, what magical or ‘creative’ call is going to help? If you call a reverse that ends up getting stopped ten yards behind the line, its a horrible play call. If you call a deep pass, mixed with a run, mixed with a screen and they all fail, people see as bad calls. I might be the only one that ever watched the George Strait movie ‘Pure Country’, but there is a saying in there of, “You know the funny thing about that white speck on the top of chicken crap? Even though it looks different, its still chicken crap.” Until these players get their head out of their butts and figure out how to play, it doesn’t matter what play you call. They are the ones that have to execute the plays.



  35. I'm Just Sayin
    1:15 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! WHOA! WHOA!

    This is the same Dave Baker who was all but inviting fans to boo when Bill Curry was playing upper classman Billy Jack Haskins over freshman Tim Couch. So I guess perspective decides whether we should be disgruntled Dave?

    Now I understand that Couch went on to put up huge stats the next couple of years in Mumme’s system but so did Lorenzon and everyone else that played QB under Mumme. Point is Dave’s “perspective” made him disgruntled at the time. Walk the walk you know….



  36. Justin G.
    1:25 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    I agree with 13, 100%! Randy Sanders is a great QB coach, NOT Off. Coordinator! I love how Baker says Sanders “is one of the classiest guys in the business”. Who cares! So was Tuby! Would you rather have Tubby back, or Cal now? There is excitement in the air with Cal. I am a nice guy, so can I get paid $2 million? Hey Baker, Sanders has been let go before, for his Offensive Coordinating!

    See, the thing is that the UK fans, just want to see competitive football! Joker came in last season with a lot of momentum in the program! He has supposedly been bringing in the best talent UK has ever had, so why are we playing like this? I mean, our team has a lot of EXPERIENCE on it, yet they look as if they have never touched a ball! Our receivers can not catch, our O-Line cannot block or open up wholes, and our secondary can not even come close to defending the pass. So what has the coaching staff been doing?! They have had since spring, and our team looks as if they have not had 1 practice. The fundamentals, and simple things are not there. So it makes me laugh, when Joker says they “need to simplify the playbook”! Running draws up the middle, when our O-Line is SOOO bad, makes all fans cringe, especially when it is 3 and 8+, and it feels as if UK is giving up.

    So please keep talking about what the fans need to improve on! That is the problem. Lets ignore the tons of problems with the actual team, so we can celebrate barely beating bad opponents, point the fingers at the fan base, and not live in reality. Keep paying Joker 2 mill for do nothing, and us fans should fill the stadium to the brink so the UK admin will continue to make lots of money, and not feel the need to upgrade facilities or coaching.

    Oh, how I love stupidity!!!!!



  37. Thomas Rigby
    1:38 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    I put the for sale signs in the yard! he is bad!!!!! he deserves it. good guy bad coach we need new people in here to start a new trend RISE….??????? please this seasons a joke. We need changes



  38. TBOY1999
    1:44 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Sanders is a great QB coach, but there is a reason that phil fulmer fired him at tennessee after two bad offensive seasons.



  39. Quicky Ricky
    1:45 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Does anyone else think the $ 275.00 parking pass is too high?



  40. Goose
    1:46 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    To the fan in section 139 who was screaming at the team while giving them “the double bird” as they were leaving the field after the game – turn in your tickets sir. The players don’t deserve that nor do the children and old people sitting around you. And yes DB, alcohol was involved.



  41. UKGoBigBlue
    1:53 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    If you’re a UK football fan you deserve a drink, your money back, and an appt with a therapist.

    People are acting like this frustration just started. IT took a lot of crap to get through, but Brooks just started turning the ship around just enough to give UK fans hope, and then he retires. UK winning & going to bowls was the carrot & the stick, and the majority of UK fans fell for it. UK fans are really pissed because they now know they got duped.

    Adding things like the video boards or updating the meeting rooms in the football offices come across as being a Big deal, making it look like the UK admin is doing something, when they should have been a givens. It’s like look at the shinny new toy trying to distract fans from remembering we suck.

    The question that has to be asked daily, what are we doing to make great players NOT want to play at UK !! Why don’t kids want to come play at UK? We play in the best football conference in the country, they will get to be on TV for almost all their games, they could walk in and get all kinds of playing time; what is it? One big thing: UK has a legacy of failure & mediocrity.



  42. FearlessJ
    2:15 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    For sale signs? Pfffft. Lame and unoriginal. Sanders should consider himself lucky people weren’t running him off campus like the insurance commercial. I’m personally SICK of UK’s sad excuse for a football program. So what a few people are voicing/showing disapproval? I’d venture to say the majority of you approve of our great teams simply due to the UK on the helmets. No small wonder we don’t sink money into the program on facilities and actually GOOD coaches. Why spend money? None of you care, and if you do all you do is talk smack on the radio. Big whoop. I’ll tell you a little secret. Crap companies put out crap products for even crappier prices not because they can’t make better products, but because people will buy it. Ya’ll are SO stuck on Kentucky that whatever UK does will be good enough for you. We sposed be SEC. Get an SEC coach, beef up facilities, and go after ALL of the top recruits. Why can’t UK go after a Saban? SPEND THE DAMN MONEY and hire folk who know what the hell they’re doing. Unless, of course, you enjoy supporting a less-than-mediocre squad.



  43. Dont let facts get in the way
    2:29 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Only problem Buzz is Sanders didnt call the plays when Woodson was here. That would be Joker. Remember him? If you’re gonna write a piece it would be nice to be factual but I expect that from someone who thinks this can be fixed. Doh



  44. Buzz
    2:31 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    #35 Hey “Im just Sayin”–You’re TOTALLY right! OK to boo a coach ( and not the player) at the place where he’s employed! Mafia guys never performed hits at somebody’s house and no matter how bad their act of betrayal was, their wife, their kids, their home were ALWAYS off limits. People SHOULD be disgruntled over what they’ve seen so far, IMO there’s a right way and wrong to express it.



  45. Buzz
    2:35 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Hey #43 do you think Sanders & Joker didnt collaberate on that playing calling? Do you think once Randy was elevated to coordinator he said “he Joker we’re not gonna run your stuff anymore?” They’re on the same page with the play calling and my comments didnt speak to whether it could ultimately be fixed–it’s how you go about expressing it.



  46. Buzz
    2:37 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Hey #43 do you think Sanders came in & threw out the offense Joker was running and that while they may have a different idea about a particular call in a certain situation that they’re on the same page of the playbook about playcalling ?



  47. Justin G.
    2:46 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    So, Who’s job is it to PREPARE the team, and make them better players? Is he not the main guy to make sure that his players can CATCH the ball, BLOCK the opponent, and DEFEND the pass!!!

    On top of all of that, Joker’s play calling is horrible because he never tries to get change things up! Do you think it helps, that he not only is running draws up the middle of a BAD LINE, but that the opposing team can easily tell what UK is going to run? Where is the Coaching? The truth is, there is none.

    How is a fan-base suppose to get behind a team that would give up 28 points in the first quarter (last season), and a team that looks like they can not even walk (this season)? What recruits want to play for this, when they see UK struggle with horrible teams, and do it with no creativity?



  48. Moses
    2:47 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    This is a complete waste of time. It’s a big friendship circle. They are always gonna justify the dog shit we have to watch on the field. I am SO SICK of everytime somebody tries to defend something I gotta hear them revert back to the 07 season. Haha… Get over it ky fans we were 8-5 a few Years ago and that’s suppose to be good enough for us for the rest of our lives. And for the billionth time. ITS JOKER!!! these Are the same shit hole plays that have been called for years



  49. CAUKFAN
    3:04 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Booing and whistle boy…..need I say more?



  50. Bastard Yak
    3:35 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    #17, maybe mississippi won’t mess with green leprechans, but alabama will!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nda_OSWeyn8



  51. Dont let facts get in the way
    4:50 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    Hey Buzz, here is your exact quote “It was Sanders who could’ve put out the moving signs himself after the year he had with Andre Woodson in 2007. All Woodson did was lead the SEC in passing yardage, total offense, and touchdown passes, including an SEC record of 40 TD strikes. LOTS of folks wanted Randy Sanders then. So what’s the difference now?” I don’t see where you have Joker getting in on this wagon from 2007.
    Now I’m sure Joker has some say this year but if your title is OC, you are the OC..and in 2007 he was a quarterback coach. Why have titles if you cant have the buck stop where it’s suppose to. Lets be real, I know you have to stay in good(brownnose) with these guys because they are thin skinned but they are not calling smart plays, all 3 games the announcers alluded to this and we as fans have a right to agree. In your 20 plus years of UK football you surely do not believe we are going to succeed in the SEC anytime soon, hell have you even covered a UT win in your career? UK fans have been loyal to a fault and if you can’t see it, too damn bad..We deserve better and I could care less what you think..IMO they call you BUZZ for a reason..cause you are sure as hell killing mine!



  52. Admiral James T. Thrustmaster
    8:34 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    #36, I approve of this message… I agree with every word; my thoughts exactly. Are you a mindreader? LOL

    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
    Albert Einstein



  53. Jesus Chrysler
    9:11 pm September 20, 2011 Permalink

    …maybe Buzz can rent out those satellite-dish sized ears of his to AT&T on Game Day.

    Bam! Instant cell phone reception.