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Could Duke Lose Their 2010 Title?

 

 

Let’s recap the story that Pete Thamel has yet to “investigate:” Lance Thomas was a senior in 2010 and a starter on Duke’s national championship-winning basketball team. In December of that season, he bought nearly $100,000 worth of custom jewelry from a New York store and put $30,000 down as a first payment. The store is now suing Thomas for failing to pay the remaining $67,800 balance.

 

I don’t know about you guys, but $30,000 to spend on jewelry is not in my rather tight student budget. Hell, most days I have to convince myself that it’s worth it to buy the brand-name Oreos instead of the generic (it is so worth it, for the record). True, I didn’t go to Duke, and I don’t have a fancy name like Lance, but still, it’s hard to imagine that Lance Thomas had that kind of cash lying around and accessible for a down payment on custom jewelry as a senior in college. And that’s what the NCAA should want to know as well- how did Thomas put down almost $70,000 in credit without receiving some sort of improper benefits? 

 

If it’s determined that Thomas received improper benefits, so would begin the chain reaction. Thomas should be deemed retroactively ineligible. The NCAA should rule that Duke played an ineligible player. And logically,  the NCAA should then strip Duke and Coach K of their 2010 title (see also: the precedent set by Derrick Rose and his SAT scores). But would they really do that to the golden boys of college basketball?

 

It’s hard to say this early when facts are still coming to light. In a perfect, Kentucky-centric world, yes, the NCAA would conduct a thorough investigation and, if Thomas didn’t have a reasonable explanation for his financial windfall, use the “strict liability” principle to make the correct ruling. I have to admit, I wouldn’t hate seeing the Duke elitists squirm a little bit in the national spotlight- it would take some of the heat off Kentucky and Coach Cal and whatever nonsense we’re being picked on for at the time. As a UK fan, I’m also interested to keep an eye on this just to compare how the investigation proceeds to how it would go down if it were at Kentucky. I’m inclined to think investigation and punishment would be much swifter and much harsher (see also: UNC’s lack of academic scandal).

 

Only time will tell. And with all his custom jewelry, time is something Lance Thomas should be able to tell us plenty about.

Lance Thomas- aka Mr. Nice Watch

 

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Article written by Kristen Geil

32 Comments for Could Duke Lose Their 2010 Title?



  1. Tom G
    4:11 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    Lance Geil?



  2. Nerlens4Pres
    4:17 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    If this happens at Kentucky, Calipari is frogmarched before an executioner, the entire campus is shut down for the rest of the 21st century, Rupp Arena is bulldozed into the dirt, and the NCAA trophies are melted down and forged into swords for the beheading of the athletic dept leadership………But, just like its goofy light-blue cousin UNC, Duke fans are yawning right now because the NCAA will do absolutely NOTHING to Duke or Carolina…….Coach K and his halo will survive this just fine, and the person(s) that are bankrolling Duke basketball will never be held accountable for a damned thing……makes a lot os us sick……….



  3. Lance Thomas
    4:29 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t know what the big fuss is all about, I showed the store my employment letter from Duke University to start up the African Study program that UNC had started and they gave me instant credit and an honorary degree.



  4. Nick
    4:35 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    If this had been at Kentucky, Pete Thamel would have had to change his pants at least 7 times already.



  5. JVice
    4:49 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    I’ll put the chances of any NCAA sanctions whatsoever against Duke at about .01% tops.



  6. Kristen Geil
    5:04 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    THREE… i’m dying over here. bahaha



  7. Wild Turkey 101
    5:04 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    Not once, but twice Puke has played an ineligible player. Wasn’t Corey Maggette the other?



  8. jill's a dumbazz
    5:05 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    The NCAA will do nothing to Duke…just like UNC.



  9. jill's a dumbazz
    5:05 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    Yes #7 you are right, Maggette was the other.



  10. I_KNOW_WHAT_YOUR_SAYIN
    5:10 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    (2and5) THE REAL BLUEGRASS CONSPIRACY,”lol,someone ought to write a book. I can not wait to see what happens. If Duke gets away with this, and then UK gets in trouble for something stupid, then anyone that thinks, that there isnt some sort of prejudice against the UofK, is a tool.



  11. schwing
    5:10 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    i thought duke players were smart enough to know not to spend all their money on dumb isht like jewelry.



  12. Holler Baller
    5:13 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    Not going to happen, unfortunately. Coach K bigger than the NCAA



  13. john4uk
    5:19 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    No,Duke can commit no evil when it comes to NCAA enforcement.Remember the NCAA did nothing when they found that Corey Maggette had hired an agent and received funds during his senior year at Duke,yet Umass had their record stipped when Cal found and reported that Carmelo Anthony for the same offense.With the NCAA it’s more about who you are when it comes to sanctions.



  14. Han
    5:21 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    7) He and Duke didn’t know he had done anything wrong, per the NCAA, so couldn’t punish them. Likewise Cam Newton didn’t know his father had done anything wrong.

    Meanwhile, Kanter still missed a year, Rose was ruled ineligible on suspicion he didn’t take his SAT and the school punished for not knowing, and Camby was ineligible for taking money and the school punished for not knowing.

    Duke will skate, just as UNC is skating on their cheating.



  15. Han
    5:22 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    13) Marcus Camby, not Carmelo Anthony. Carmelo played for Syracuse in 2001 (or 2000?)



  16. YOYOYOYo
    5:27 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    9 what about Elton Brand



  17. BobKYCats
    5:56 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    15: Carmelo played for ‘Cuse in ’03.



  18. barn
    6:01 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    dook?…..lose their title?…..har..harhar…dook?….harharharharharharharahar



  19. Roggensak
    7:17 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    NCAA: Not only did we find nothing wrong here; we will pay the remaining $67,800 balance because it’s the right thing to do… That is all…



  20. Lee
    7:31 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    I’m probably on the minority, but instead of stripping Duke of their title, wouldn’t it be nice if schools like Umass, Memphis, & Michigan could have their final fours back? I think it’s rediculous that whole programs have to suffer for an individual’s bad decision. I think it’s unfair. It’s one thing if rat face gave him the money, but I’d it was something with an agent I think it’s unfair to the other players. I thought it was unfair at Umass. NCAA is a joke…



  21. randomer
    7:38 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    2 – you nailed it HAHA.

    5 – .01% tops is correct, I think I would put it at about .00% !!! we are talking about coach K here, I think ESPN would send a death squad to Emmert’s door if the NCAA so much as thought about touching Duke.

    great post…



  22. JayBruce
    7:48 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    I actually agree with Bruce. While I root against Duke… I still absolutely detest the idea that the NCAA retroactively invalidates seasons long past that DID happen. Find a different way to punish schools.



  23. Usernametaken
    8:40 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    If you want to see how the NCAA will respond to this, see how they did with North Carolina this year. If it isn’t UK/Calipari, major violations aren’t worth investigating.



  24. carnifex
    9:42 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    NCAA is really getting themselves into deep lawyerly doo doo. What are they gonna’ do when some school with an AD that has some cajones sues them over a punishment they hand out. All a lawyer has to do is show what the NCAA has done to punish UNC and Duke. Hell, if I were Kanter, I’d hire a lawyer to sue them now…on the grounds that the NCAA cost him millions of dollars for their total fabrication of a ruling.



  25. V
    9:51 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    Don’t worry NCAA is not even going to touch this with a 10 foot pole, NCAA thinks K is holier than thou. If they did not touch UNC with a huge academic scandal do you really think they are going after Duke and Coach K?



  26. Dave in Bangkok
    11:02 pm September 8, 2012 Permalink

    They’ll put SMU on probation.



  27. Blew Hare
    12:09 am September 9, 2012 Permalink

    A Duke education and playing for
    Coach K have lost some of their Value if he was still that Stupid in his 4th year of exposure to them.



  28. We Beat Louisville
    4:17 am September 9, 2012 Permalink

    Ryan Lochte just unloaded his giant Gainesville, Florida swimming pool … which also happened to have a house attached to it, TMZ has learned.

    The Olympic gold-medalist bought the pool way back in 2006 for $377,500 while he was still attending the University of Florida … and sold it in late august for an undisclosed amount.

    The pool comes with a 2,470 square-foot house (below) that boasts 4 bedrooms … 2 baths and other home-esque things … like a garage … exterior walls … fireplace etc.

    But from the pics, it’s obvious … Lochte bought the place for the pool, which takes up the ENTIRE back yard.

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz25xTa6ARW

    I dont see much difference here is the NCAA investigating Lotche?



  29. UKSoCal
    5:19 am September 9, 2012 Permalink

    28- Completely unrelated issue. Swimmers, actually all Olympic sport athletes, legally (based on NCAA rules) can make bank during college and still be an amateur. Lochte was getting almost $2k a month on top of his scholarships and probably got ~$50k off of the ’04 Olympics.



  30. BurnerTurner5
    8:23 am September 9, 2012 Permalink

    #2 Very nice. And you are 100% correct!



  31. ERIC
    9:36 am September 10, 2012 Permalink

    You had me til you mentioned the fake UNC academic scandal. The reason that wasn’t pursued is because it was outside of NCAA jurisdiction and that they would have had to investigate every school in the US for having easily passable classes. It happens everywhere.



  32. Franklin
    9:43 am September 10, 2012 Permalink

    Corey Maggette admitted to taking money from Myron Piggie which came from agents but Duke was left alone for that. Memphis was having banners taken away because of Derek Rose under “strict liability” but Duke received no action from the NCAA for the Maggette incident. Duke can’t be touched.