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Comparing the 29th Picks of the NBA Draft

 

So Kentucky didn’t have the number one draft pick for the third time in four years. Wonk wonk. But you know what we did have? The 29th pick- yes, for the third time in four years. In all the hullabaloo last night (seriously, that’s the best word to describe whatever went down in the Barclays Center), one little nugget slipped past our radar: for the third the time in four years, a Kentucky player was chosen 29th in the first round. So while everyone else is busy analyzing the nutty top ten picks, international players and their hairstyles, and trades more complicated than deciphering Amanda Bynes’ tweets, I want to keep it fairly simple: comparing those draft picks across the board.

 

Daniel Orton, 2010, Orlando Magic

Kentucky stats: 3.4 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 1.4 BPG, 0.4 APG, in 13.2 minutes per game.

Kentucky highlights: Scored 14 points against Rider early in the season.

Draft buzz: Orton was a bit of a mystery to NBA scouts since he didn’t play all that much for Kentucky’s stacked roster. However, people liked his body, wingspan, and athleticism, comparing him to Brendan Haywood. Teams weighed his raw potential against his poor ball-handling and lack of offensive polish.

NBA stats:  2.7 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 0.4 BPG, 0.3 APG, in 10 minutes per game.

NBA highlights: After being drafted by the Magic, Orton dipped into the D-League and was ultimately traded to OKC, where he temporarily lost out to fellow Cat DeAndre Liggins for the final roster spot. However, OKC resigned him and once again, Orton played Chutes and Ladders with the team’s D-Leage squad. His career high of ten points came in a win over Sacramento.

 

Marquis Teague, 2012, Chicago Bulls

Kentucky stats: 10.0 PPG, 4.8 APG, 2.5 RPG, in 32.6 minutes per game.

Kentucky highlights: Had his first double-double with 12 points and 10 assists in a win over Florida.

Draft buzz: Garnering comparisons to Steve Francis and his older brother Jeff, GMs liked how Marquis improved at leading his team over the course of the year- especially since that year ended with a national championship. Teague shone in the assists department, but sometimes was forced into turnovers in the half court. He wasn’t too hot at shooting the three or really the free throw for that matter (71%).

NBA stats: 2.1 PPG, 1.3 APG, 0.9 RPG, in 8.1 minutes per game.

NBA highlights: Teague has subtly flown under the radar in the NBA, not going down to the D-League yet (which probably is a result of Derrick Rose’s injury and the Bulls’ need for backup point guards). Teague actually got some minutes during the playoffs, but his best effort came in a loss to the Spurs, in which young Marquis scored 11 points, 3 assists, 3 rebounds, and only one turnover.

 

Archie Goodwin, 2013, Phoenix Suns

Kentucky stats: 14.1 PPG, 4.6 RPG, 2.6 APG, 1.1 steals per game, 3.1 TOs per game, in 31.8 minutes per game

Kentucky highlights: Interspersed with “AAARRRRRRGGHHH-chie” moments, the freshman from Little Rock had a pretty strong year. Although his career high in points came against Morehead State (28), he was perhaps most valuable in wins over Mizzou (18 points) and #16 Florida (16 points).

Draft buzz: Buzzwords like “raw athleticism,” “wingspan,” “high upside,” and “great motor” were thrown around, along with comparisons to Russell Westbrook and Tyreke Evans. People thought he handled the ball well for a shooting guard, talking about possibly transitioning him to point guard at the NBA level, and everyone loved his length and quickness. The problem for draft analysts lies in Archie’s poor shooting touch and how rough he is around the edges. NBADraft.net summed it up best with “a true boom or bust type of prospect.”

NBA stats: ??

NBA highlights: ??

 

So, what have we learned? Well, probably not much- for now. Picks at the end of the first round are inherently slightly risky and unpredictable. Teague appears to be in the most stable situation while Orton has been considered a bust, but Goodwin is being called “the steal of the draft” for a rebuilding Phoenix team. Let’s check back in about five years, when Orton has had more time to improve his game, when Teague is getting more playing time on an old Bulls team, and when Archie has gone from raw to well done. As Matt would say, “we shall see.”

 

Until then, I have to wonder if it’s the “Kentucky/Calipari effect” that leads managers the past few years to take a Kentucky player towards the end of the first round. Think about it: the GMs know the kind of training Cal puts his kids through, and that they practice against NBA players during the off-season, and that the Kentucky mentality is all about accepting nothing less than the best. Surely that kind of program helps boost a player whose risks and rewards are being weighed. Can’t hurt, anyway- right?

 

@KristenGeilKSR

Article written by Kristen Geil

22 Comments for Comparing the 29th Picks of the NBA Draft



  1. Daniel Orton
    2:07 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    I was drafted in 2010. That makes it 3 of the last 4 years.



  2. wild cat jack
    2:09 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    Three years in a row without the number one pick? Did you live under a rock last year during the draft? Or did Anthony Davis never happen and that was merely a figment of my imagination?!



  3. Mike Krzyzewski
    2:10 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    I did not know Kyrie Irving attended Kentucky. I did know people from Kentucky do not know how to count.



  4. sal
    2:10 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    See Davis-Anthony. 2012 #1



  5. wow
    2:11 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    Seriously?? How could you not figure out the fact that Daniel Orton was in 2010? just wow.



  6. BBN Fan
    2:11 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    Daniel Orton was drafted in 2010…



  7. CATSRACERS
    2:13 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    I think you missed a year in your desire for three number one picks in a row. Kyrie Irving was between Wall and Davis.



  8. Daniel Orton
    2:14 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    Rookie mistake, Kristen. I’m familiar with them. I just hope, you got a guaranteed contract. The KSR D-League does wonders.



  9. NL
    2:15 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    Regardless of year, these are three guys that all needed to come back and gain more experience before moving on to the next level. I’m all for the one and dones, but these three one and dones needed more experience



  10. ThatMan
    2:16 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    How about you do some research before you post something that is completely wrong. Or since you are getting paid to write for a KENTUCKY sports website you should already know which Kentucky players were drafted recently.



  11. NO MATT JONES
    2:16 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    Teague and Lamb should’ve returned. Both of them could have done serious damage on last year’s team with Goodwin, Wilter, Poythress, Noel and WCS. They both would have been first rounders in this draft. But no, they bolted too early. Kentucky sucked, and they’re teetering on the edge of basketball oblivion.



  12. tom
    2:16 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    I am constantly amazed at the knowledge of the BBN fan base. A lot of you guys here in the comment section know a heck of a lot more than the kids who write for this site. YOU should be writing. I would love to glean some of the knowledge of the folks who comment!



  13. Bicycle Seat Sniffer
    2:17 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    “So what have we learned?” That facts truly are optional.



  14. NO MATT JONES
    2:18 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    And with that being said this is a terribly inaccurate piece, Kristen.



  15. crazy8s
    2:20 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    I like the direction Kristen is going with this, but she’s applying it to the wrong season. 2012-2013 is the season we are supposed to conveniently forget.



  16. moreheadcatfan
    2:23 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    orton was in the 2010 draft… and so was wall so neither would have made it 3rd in a row, 3 in 4 years but not 3 in a row



  17. Yikes
    2:34 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    That first paragraph is like a car wreck of misinformation, I cant look away. Good job, good effort.



  18. Krisen Geil is a scrub writer
    2:37 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    Inherently slightly? Incorrected data used in your examples? Your article was painstaking to read. As was the article you posted yesterday. So people should pursue other career interests….



  19. Ridge Runner
    2:53 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    I can’t understand how some of you come across so damn mean to these writers. There is a way of mentioning a correction to someone and then there is the way many seem to want to do it. I don’t get it. Kristen and other writers are human and most of all don’t deserve the type of comments that are targeted. Have some of you heard of common courtesy?



  20. Kristen Geil's USA bikini
    3:12 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    @ 10. Kristen does not, in fact, get paid to write for this website. Most writers do not. In addition, your first sentence required a question mark at the end. As evidenced by your lack of comma usage, I assume you aren’t sure that anything exists but a period. A question mark is this (?).



  21. RahRah
    5:07 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    Dang, you guys are heartless. This ain’t the New York Times.

    Anyway, have to wonder what 2013 could have been with M.Teague running the show. Sigh. No way do I blame these kids for jumping on the opportunity though.



  22. Beavis606
    5:47 pm June 28, 2013 Permalink

    Flop, flop and flop