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Can The Underclassmen Save Joker’s Job?

 

If we’re being honest with ourselves, it’s not hard to see that this isn’t Kentucky’s year on the gridiron. The season started with low expectations, but so far, the Wildcats have failed to live up to even the most modest of them. Halfway through the season the ‘Cats sit at 1-5, with virtually no shot now at making a bowl game. The real question facing Mitch Barnhart and the rest of the athletic department now becomes: What direction does the program go at the end of the year? 

On one side, you have an argument that the Wildcats need to start fresh with a new coaching staff. I’ve never been the type that thought talks of replacing a coaching staff during the season was necessary, in fact its more of a distraction than anything. While this year’s team obviously has plenty to worry about on the field, the off-the-field questions about the future of the program are inevitable at this point. After a streak of 5 consecutive bowl games came to an end last season, the Wildcats are in full rebuilding mode right now, and it’s up to the administration to determine if that rebuilding will happen with Joker Phillips  in charge or not. It’s very hard to win in the SEC at Kentucky, and it’s even more difficult when key factors of your team begin dropping like flies out on the field. But at some point, the coaching staff needs to be held accountable for the poor performance of the program the last 2 seasons.

At the same time, as Joker Phillips stated in his press conference today, the Wildcats have played 14 true freshman this season, which if  you follow college football you know, is a lot. The core group of Kentucky’s program are underclassmen, especially on offense where UK has a trio of young quarterbacks who have played significant time this season, along with playmakers like Demarco Robinson, Darryl Collins, Demarcus Sweat, and Josh Clemons (who is redshirting after tearing his ACL last season). On defense, Bud Dupree, Khalid Henderson, and Cody Quinn have all shown flashes of their talent early on in their careers. With such a young nucleus that includes 23 freshman and sophomores on this weeks 2-deep depth chart, its hard to imagine a future where this team’s youth doesn’t grow into a solid team in the coming years. Kentucky’s 2012 recruiting class has been asked for more production than any class in recent memory, and by most accounts, have stepped up and contributed.

   

 

The real question is: Is the promise of a better tomorrow enough to retain Joker Phillips? I realize the sentiment around the fan base at this moment is that a coaching change is inevitable and i’m sure that given the power to be judge, jury, and executioner, more than half of you would have given Joker the axe weeks ago, but it’s a real question. My problem with Joker Phillips has never been with personnel, ever since Rich Brooks arrived at Kentucky, the caliber of player has risen dramatically at UK, rather my issue with Joker has always been in game-planning, in that more often than not it seems that Kentucky is playing not to lose, rather than to win. No matter what the decision made is, a decision is going to have to be made, and I’m glad I’m not the one that has to make it. With each success of the underclassmen, it becomes tougher. If Joker is removed, do any of those guys leave? If he remains the coach, is he competent enough to develop their talents into a cohesive unit? Or, on the other hand, will the promise of talented young underclassmen be Joker’s downfall, because that surely would be a great selling point to start with to entice a big-name head coach to come to Lexington.

For now, let’s take solace in the fact that…. nevermind, I have nothing to put here. It’s definitely not our year on the gridiron, just grit your teeth and take it. Maybe next year.

— @WillTottenKSR

Article written by Will Totten

Born in Indiana and raised in Louisville, I am the unlikeliest UK fan.

63 Comments for Can The Underclassmen Save Joker’s Job?



  1. backpack
    8:53 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    I have one upper sec 242 row o (i think it is the last row) i live in Richmond so if anyone needs one ticket leave ur email and ill shoot u an email and we will figure out how to get it to you.. (i dont want anything for the ticket)



  2. SoCal Will
    8:54 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Every competitive high profile position has a magic code. There is no reason to pay anyone millions of dolars if they don’t possess it. These young kids do have talent, though….



  3. SCCat
    8:54 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    It is a valid question, but honestly there have been multiple occassions this season when the coaches (all of them) have demonstrated they cannot even put the kids in a position to compete. From the Morgan Newton fiasco during the Florida game to drive killing play calls today when Towles was hot to giving two QB’s reps all the time rather than preparing one man to learn the offense…i could continue the run on sentence.

    Joker has recruited some Cats who I will love forever, but as a HC and with the coordinators he has put in place, he simply hasn’t put us in a position to succeed DURING football games.

    I think it’s time to clean house.

    **Keep in mind I didn’t even mention ticket sales. It’s a factor, maybe the biggest one.



  4. Ky
    8:54 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Your an idiot just STFU & get your gear ready for BBM that’s really where your loyalties are, right?



  5. Gawd
    8:56 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    KENTUCKY Football is precisely where I knew they’d be.

    If your expectations differed….then why?

    We are at: It is what it is.

    But why?

    And, how soon can we fix it?

    And, does the university have the committment it would require?



  6. Kelly
    8:57 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    I agree we have young talent. Let’s not waste another down of it with this staff. This staff can’t recognize who should be on the field to begin with.



  7. Mike
    8:59 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Joker needs to be demoted and given some type of assistant’s position as well as head recruiting coordinator.



  8. Head Bussa
    9:00 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Dude, there is no saving his job. It’s about time EACH and EVERY one of the KSR writers recognizes this.



  9. Andrew Cassady
    9:02 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Maybe next year.. the eternal cry of UK fans.



  10. snarkster
    9:03 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    “It’s very hard to win in the SEC at Kentucky, and it’s even more difficult when key factors of your team begin dropping like flies out on the field. But at some point, the coaching staff needs to be held accountable for the poor performance of the program the last 2 seasons.”

    Complete and utter BS. Is it easy? No, bit it’s no tougher than it is than it is to win @ Miss St or Louisville. I don’t expect Bama or LSU or Florida every year, but I see no reason not to compete with the Bulldogs, Cardinals or Razorbacks year in and year out WITH THE RIGHT HC).

    Sure, we may have some talented freshmen and spopmores and there only be a few upperclassmen, but that’s the same thing we were saying two years ago and its the same thing we’ll be saying two years from now if Joker and Co. stay.



  11. Catfan48
    9:06 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    When Joker took over I believe he fired a few of the other assistants that Brooks had, this was a sign of his decision making, he had a horrible defense his first year then he followed it up with a horrible offense , now he has both. Another year won’t transfer him into a better coach making better decisions. He can’t even judge which players should be playing. It is time for him to go.



  12. ohhai
    9:06 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Why are there no juniors on the depth chart? It was phillips first recruiting class as head coach. did they whiff on an entire class? Just because he plays freshman does not excuse the fact that he allowed this situation to occur.



  13. dodger1
    9:07 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    two years from now when these freshman are juniors,they will still be 2 stars playing against 4 and 5 stars. get real



  14. MemphisCat
    9:12 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Why would the Underclassmen want to save Joker’s job, is he really preparing them for football after UK, or anything in general? All I have every heard is that Joker is a really nice guy, I don’t argue that point, but if we want to be factor in the SEC, we need a tough guy that coaches players to be tough. I loved Tubby, but he was a nice guy and after a while he had to go be a nice guy somewhere else. Since Joker has taken over, all I heard is if we didn’t have injuries, depth issues, or to many young guys. I’m ready to have the nice guy leave, if UK finally get’s a high profile coach in here that can turn the program around, I think the younger guys would get tougher and play better.



  15. MHFaulkner
    9:14 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Let me put it clearly when answering the question if the youth is reason to keep Joker.

    No.



  16. Me
    9:18 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Hey joker, F you, brother! Oh, and mitch, F you too!

    You two bums have killed UK football.



  17. Ben
    9:20 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    We cannot take anymore of Joker as head coach! I would not pay Joker to go away and do nothing. If he refuses to resign, then he should be made to work at a lessor position for his money. Why pay someone to do nothing? Mitch has no real choice but to replace him! If Joker truly loves
    KY, he will resign at season end and save Mitch the hardship and KY the money. We will soon know the outcome!



  18. Kelly
    9:20 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Just got some info from my source. To improve attendance Barnhart is going to give out a free bottle of ski and a moonpie to the 1rst 20,000 fans at the Georgia game.



  19. Catlogic15
    9:24 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    We are getting kids hurt because this inept staff puts them in position to BE hurt. Confusion=injury. No parent in their right mind should let their son play for Joker Phillips. Joker is a career ender. Not a coach.



  20. JBR
    9:25 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Another ridiculous football post from KSR. You guys are losing your fans faster than Joker has. Horrible logic…Joker has had decent recruiting classes essentially each year, and through player attrition and poor coaching, they simply go away. The ONLY reason we always play freshmen is because Joker and his staff have not ruined them and sucked out their confidence and heart.

    The question should be “Can we fire Joker before he ruins these young players, too?”

    How about writing a post like that, KSR.



  21. snarkster
    9:26 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Re: 18 – If the UGa game ends up being a day game, even Jawja fans might not even show up – them Dawg fanss luv their Keenland.



  22. Will Totten
    9:27 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    10. Do you honestly believe its just as easy to win at Kentucky as it is at Louisville? Off the top of my head I can give a few reasons. Easier schedule, much better facilities. UK does have the advantage of recruiting as an SEC team but when you’re recruiting against the best of college football from a state that produces little D-1 talent, it gets a little harder. Until the program gets more funding and a major facilities upgrade, UK is one of the harder programs to win at in the BCS. Not to mention the fact that basketball is and always will be what drives this state.



  23. Jackson Purchase
    9:28 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    I have a feeling Mitch will give him one more year due to youth of the team and all the injuries, but I hope thats not the case. Didnt watch todays game, what was the attendance for todays game?



  24. Duke Sucks
    9:37 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Let’s get real people. There is no choice to be made here. The writings on the wall and Joker has to go. Every argument being made now could have been made Curry’s last year. High rated in state QB. Don’t forget Mummie had some top shelf talent left by Curry. If I remember right the players wore 1 k on their helmet to show support for Curry. Soon as they had success with Mummie the next year they had forgotten curry just like next years team will forget Joker.



  25. niaps
    9:37 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    How on earth can there even be a question as to weather joker stays or leaves. Total loss of respectability as a football team. Not competitive. Poor coaching decisions time and time again. Joker looks like he is lost on the sidelines and seems to have no clue as what to do. The decision about Joker should be made with in an hour after UT humbles the Cats in the last game of the year. Empty stands and losing make for poor bedfellows.



  26. ohhai
    9:40 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    22. how can you bring up lack of in state talent when louisville and western kentucky whip our azz? obviously we have the tougher schedule but we cant even compete head to head with in state schools



  27. Funky Monkey
    9:41 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Freshmen on the field? Who cares? It’s talent not age of the players that matter. Cal wins the NCAA with all freshmen, what a lame excuse for Joker.



  28. carnifex
    9:43 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    First off, @#18) Go away little brother. We know we suck. We know because we play in the toughest conference in America. Wanna’ bet when the Tards play a real team in what ever bowl they go to they not only loose, but they don’t cover the spread? Be honest. Do you really think you could beat WKU? Not from what I’ve seen of both teams.

    #2)”Wait ’til next year!” The call of the Eternal Loser, who’s faint mournful cry is supposed to elicit sympathy, but instead, just sounds petulant. See Tard basketball fans, IU fans, Florida fans, etc.

    #3)”Playing not to lose” As he was taught. Joker’s coaching tree was born of conservatism…”hang close, maybe the ball bounces your way, and you sneak out a win.” The in-explicable calls have existed his entire career, as a assistant coach as well. Remember UT Cobb’s sophmore year. Fourth and goal, we pull Cobb out of the game(because he was tired) and ran Newton on a keeper that gets stuffed, game over, UT wins again. That was the game and the play I knew Joker didn’t play to win. The best player of the game was on our bench, drinking gatorade, while we lose to UT one more time. Don’t call time out to rest him, don’t make him suck it up for 1 frigging play, just pull him out of the game entirely. Joker Philips did more for UT’s defense than their entire team could have.(the only person to keep MJ from averaging 20+pts per game in college was Dean Smith)

    #4)Just stop already with the pollyanna, sunshine pumping. We’re a dumpster fire with the Keystone Kops for a coaching staff, administered by a Chinese fire department. And Jack Benny (Barney) as the AD.



  29. Bsb Coach
    9:44 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Give Joker another year, but get a new offensive coordinator. I’ve seen the last 3 yard dump pass on 3rd and long I ever want to see. I just don’t think Sanders is the man. Tennessee thought the same thing and for once, I have to agree w/them.



  30. Will Totten
    9:46 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    26. I only bring it up as a reminder to why it’s hard to be competitive in the SEC, Louisville recruits the hell out of South Florida bc they have connections there, and have much better facilities and administrative support behind them. WKU should’ve never happened there’s no excuse for that.

    27. Don’t try to compare football to basketball, it’s 2 completely different monsters. Especially at Kentucky.



  31. KyTom
    9:50 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    #18. There may be some moonpies left over.
    #23. IF Barrhart gives The Joke another year, there won’t be 10,000 people for the first game.
    I didn’t like the Joker hire from the beginning. His play calling when he was OC was horrible. His play calling personally cost up 2 wins against UT. 2007, with Woodson and Company and that dangerous aerial attack and UT having the 11th rank passing defense in teh SEC, it’s a no brainer what to do…..That’s right, in the first half The Joke wants to establish the running game…..UK is down by 17 at the half. FINALLY, airs it out in second half. We tie and go to OT. On 2nd OT, we stop UT and Woodson and Co have not been stopped since halftime……so, what is the thing to do? Right, The Joke runs it up the middle 3 times, to set up a Lonas Seiber field goal. BLOCKED and UT goes on to win.
    2009, UK fights and claws…recovers a fumble with 3:00 to go and down by 3. Randall Cobb guts the offense inside the 5 for a first down. What is the right thing to do? That’s right, The Joke puts in freshman Morgan Newton and Cobb never touches the ball again. UT wins in OT. That along with all the other play not to lose calls and I say don’t let these kids be wasted on a coach like The Joke another year.



  32. Jj
    9:51 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Will totten sir, you are an idiot. That is all



  33. snarkster
    9:52 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    22 – Yes, I firmly believe there is no excuse that UK is not as good as UL, MSU, Arkansas on a yearly basis. UL’s schedule/conference affiliation might be a reson that they could win more games in a given year, but that has nothing to do with what I was saying. I was saying that there is no reason that UK is not on equal footing every year with UL’s or MSU’s head-to-head. In case you missed our opener or today’s game – we’re not close at this point. Lack of in-state talent may keep Uk from ever being a perrennial challenger for the SEC crown or an NC, but it is not a reason we aren’t competing with the middle of the SEC pack. There is no legitmaate to be dominated by the Cards and no reason they should EVER lose to WKU.



  34. Old Cat
    9:54 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    I can solve the problem as I am retired and for $100,000 plus a car I can come to Lexington and coach as well as Joker and his staff. Time for the University to either step up and get a winner as coach. Once he was announced as Head coach in waiting the program start going backwards. It is like watching a friend die with cancer now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



  35. westerncat
    9:56 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    I have been flowing UK Basketball/Football now for 40 years. I thing it is time for a change. We should NEVER be this far behine the other SEC schools. If Fla. can do well in both sports as well as other schools, UK should be able to do the same. I have just about come to my end of pulling for the football program. Something need to be done and soon.



  36. ikeeveready
    9:56 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Jokers first class as HC was 2010. From that class we have Williamson, Simpson, Shields, Sanders, Cobble, McDuffen, Huegenin, Mansour, Mike Douglas and Tyler Robinson. All contributors, several as redshirt sophomores. A third of that class, the “best” I might add have been kicked off the team, didn’t qualify or have left due to injury or a desire to quit football altogether, names like Justin Henderson, Nermen Delic, Sam Simpson, Mark Crawford, Jerell Priester, Tim McAdoo, and Alex Smith. Please don’t get me started on the Louisville Central connection of Tim Patterson and Ridge Wilson and those guys were huge recruiting gets!

    There are/have been very few impact freshmen or sophomores in the SEC. Only the talented and patient make it, especially at UK.

    Consider this:
    Jokers luck with QBs since he took over has been horrible. Hartlines arrest. We’ve had 3 4star kids, 1 never played and has fallen off the map because of a HS shoulder injury, Morgan had tons of promise after winning against UGA and Auburn but has been banged up every year since, and now Towles after 1 series.

    Today Whitlow was late on throws (almost getting Robinson killed), missed open receivers opting for checkdown on 3rd and long, and should have kept half of the zone read balls he let Raymond keep. It was not a good day, but he is a freshman and poor decision making and slow reactions are par for the course. Or are they bad coaching?

    By the way, the play calling aside from the 3 plays mentioned above. . . not that horrible. Poor zone reads combined with zero cutback on the stretch plays is what killed the run game. The blocking was there, the keys were there, but the execution wasn’t. That simple. That’s not solely coaching but youth and inexperience combined with coaching.

    Do I think Joker gets another shot? Only with a new OC and DC. None of you would like to have Steve Brown back but Minter has been dealt with a ton of youth and I believe defensively they can caoch. The defense could have been much better but for the knuckleheadery of more experience in Patterson, Wilson, Crawford, Justin Henderson, etc.

    Randy Sanders is still the lone holdover on o. The offense could have been much better but for the injuries to the O-line & RB last year and the QB & RBs this year.

    He can get a shot but there has to be a sacrificial lamb and a unique, exciting hire to the offense. Not that I’m condoning it.



  37. Mr. Obvious
    10:01 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Choker’s record:

    2010 6-7
    2011



  38. Mr. Obvious
    10:01 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Choker’s Record:

    2010, 6-7
    2011, 5-7
    2012, 1-5

    I don’t see any improvement. Fire him!



  39. RichBrooksTomatos
    10:07 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    First you fired all my coaches. You know, the ones who laid the foundation of our success. Then you turned our physical team into a finesse team. Now you blame losses on lack of talent and injuries. Even a papaw’s tomato knows if it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it.



  40. old man
    10:07 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    I think the losses at QB and RB this year allows Joker one more year. Not saying he should get another year, but I can see MB using this season like it never happened and giving Joker one more chance.



  41. Kyle
    10:09 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    We have been in pretty much every game i have watched with the exception of Florida. 2 scores in football isnt much we had a chance to win today but because of coaching we lose. Most of these games we lost cause our coaches were out coached only the florida game did that team have way more talent than we did. Louisville doesnt really have us beat but by a few players. I seriously believe if you flip strong and joker around strong takes kentucky and beats louisville. The talent is there but the coaching is not time for them to go



  42. Big O
    10:10 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Is anyone really surprised? Think back when Joker was offensive coordinator. How many times did Cobb makes plays to get us in the “red zone” only to see Joker not call his number again and we either settled for the field goal or in some cases came away with nothing. Joker did a really poor job his first season when he had Cobb and Heartline and the team got worse as the season went on. The bowl game against Pitt was the worst prepared team I have ever seen put on the field. Yes the SEC is a bear and UK will always find it hard to compete, but when you lose the on conference games which are put on the schedule for wins- you are doomed! Finally, when Commenwealth is less than 50,000 for 3 straight games you have the dollar against you. The only surprise of the Joker era is when Mitch let Brooks name him as his successor. It is 4th and 10 and the play clock is winding down. Mitch has to make a play to save the program!



  43. ohhai
    10:13 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    36. good info there

    joker was quoted at media day saying kentucky needs to follow the wisconsin model. well first he needs to understand wtf the wisconsin model is. you close your borders and get in state kids that want to play for your school. perfect example is the rb at western that absolutely torched us. stop going for some knucklehead that is a 4 star because it will improve your scout.com rating but he never plays a down because of all of the red flags. the 2nd part of that is you actually have to coach these kids up and I dont believe we currently have the staff to do this.



  44. kybigblue
    10:18 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    If he comes back without a contract extension how will he convince better players to play at UK. This is why he won’t be back.



  45. RichBrooksTomatos
    10:18 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    We don’t looked prepared in any game except USC. Not to mention the lack of points in the first quarter. Nuclear Winter is just that…radioactive. Outmatched in the SEC. Talent can’t make up for bad coaching and bad preparation.



  46. Yab
    10:21 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Let Phillips finish the year, but hire Petrino now. This is the only guy that can turn us into a real winner.



  47. LexiMan
    10:36 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    How about hiring Spurrier’s kid…



  48. JBR
    10:40 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    OK 36…so now the joker apologists are blaming bad luck. LOSER MENTALITY. There are no more excuses, so give it up. All player attrition is not luck…much of it is discipline and coaching. Have we had a lot of attrition, yes. Was it bad luck, outside of injuries, absolutely NOT. I had ears in the locker room…Joker’s playing his favorites and his general “friend first, coach second” demeanor made him have ZERO respect from most players. He regularly splits teams by playing his favorites (See Newton and R Sanders), and his discipline, or lack thereof, is non-existent. People think that suspending players or kicking them off is discipline…it is, but only after you have lost control of that player. It is a last resort because you have failed to instill the importance of the program to him.

    You guys need to just stop…really…you look really sad and pathetic. There is no way Joker gets another year. Even if Mitch wanted to, the program is already taking a huge hit in revenue from lost ticket sales. Next year, if Joker is retained, it will completely collapse our program.



  49. Diamond
    10:43 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Dead Man Walking



  50. JR
    10:47 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    Lets think about this. They have lots of young kids on the team. Here is the main question. Would you rather go after 5 two-star recruits or 2 five-star recruits? Yes well find a diamond in the rough (aka Cobb) but how often will that happen? We dont have a history such as Alabama but hell at least be competitive and not recruit against MAC schools.



  51. Josh
    10:51 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    I am a youth minister in louisville and although i agree that this season is a disappointment i would gladly take any tickets that anyone would like to donate. I’ll use it as an opportunity to hang out with one of my high school students on a saturday afternoon. Better than just sitting atound at a coffee house thinking how much i hate coffee. My email is [email protected]

    Thanks to anyone interested. Go cats.



  52. Hdtv
    10:51 pm October 6, 2012 Permalink

    The big question which I’ve never heard anyone address is why we have to play so many fr & soph. Joker has been the head coach for 3 years & head of recruiting for many more & we have such a lapse in recruiting we have to play this many young kids? His alibi is that we are so young, but did he not create that scenario?



  53. Duke Sucks
    12:16 am October 7, 2012 Permalink

    Look people has anyone heard Barnhart support Joker publicly since the UL game? That alone should tell everyone what going on. Even when the heat was on Brooks Mitch always had his back,always. Nothing will happen till after half way into the season because there is no benefit in firing joker now. My guess it will be close to BBM so the media coverage won’t be as much. Save the new hire untill after towards the end of the season before the bowls start to get the most buzz.



  54. ikeeveready
    1:31 am October 7, 2012 Permalink

    JBR,
    Apparently you didn’t either A) read the post or B) comprehend it. No excuses, no loser mentality.

    The response was to the question of whether young talent could save Joker and several posters pointed to his “recruiting gap”. So I responded.

    I said Joker had bad LUCK with QBs. That is a fact. Anyone watching last season or this cannot dispute that. Joker has not been taking lead pipes to ankles and shoulders of Newton, Smith or Towles. If I said Rick Pitino has had bad luck with injuries at UofL that would be one thing because I think he has driven his players through the floor physically. Injured on the field of play is completely different.

    Are the players from the 2010 class I mentioned not contributing?

    Another FACT-The other players mentioned gave up due to injury (ex. Sam Simpson), didn’t qualify (ex. Tim Mcadoo), left for personal reasons (ex. Nermin Delic), transferred due to lack of playing time (ex. Priester and Huzzie whom I didn’t mention), or were kicked off the team for disciplinary reasons (see list above). I’d say between Hartline, Wilson (pre-drug arrest), Sanders, Trevathan, etc. we’ve seen no shortage of discipline from Joker.

    If Joker has no respect from his players, why did so many recent players come back for practice right before the season? Free lunch? Why have Woodson & Jarmon come back to be on staff? Did you see the team quit against UGA or UT last season? Have they quit this season?

    The only thing sad and pathetic is when someone anonymously says they have “sources” or uses expressions like “ears in the locker room”. If your ears were running their mouths they don’t deserve to be in a locker room in the first place. Sack up or get out.

    I also summed up by saying I don’t CONDONE Joker getting another shot. I said that the only way possbile is if the administration looked at the talent and he cleaned house of coordinators that would be the only chance.

    Based on the 30-35K fans I sat with in the stadium today I’d say the adminstration wont make that call. It’s neither a shame nor a moment to rejoice, it is what it is.



  55. The Joke is on us
    2:23 am October 7, 2012 Permalink

    #54 bottom line. If UK went 2 and 8 and was competitive In every game to the point you felt that with a break here or there they could have won 6 or 7 with all these injuries. Then you could argue to fire the coaches and give joker anther year. This has been anything but competitive. Even tonight the final score was that terrible but at no time did you get the feeling we stood a chance.
    I was in support of hiring Joker and given all the circumstances think it was the right choice. When we hired him we had to give a fair time to prove what he could do,it just wouldn’t have been fair to fire him after 2 so- so seasons. So I think bringing him back was the right choice. Now it just isn’t working. Going into the season Mitch the media and about everyone else said this was the year for thing to start going the other way or Joker had to go. Regardless of any excuses this team is terrible. No way around it and Joker HAS to go. These people saying Joker needs more time is about sickening. I think UK has lived up to their part and Joker has failed.



  56. ribin
    7:50 am October 7, 2012 Permalink

    Joker will be back — Barnhart will use the injuries as a reason ‘to be fair’ – saves him $$ (buyout) and having to make a decision. If Joker is gone, who the hell you going to get? UK is way down the list for experienced coaches looking for work — changing coordinators may work (def – Guidry from WKU?) — they recruit south florida also — just don’t see it getting much better — need solid recruiting — class after class. Whitlow had a rough day but Joker and Sanders keep throwing him under the bus — ‘not what I expected” – certainly makes him feel supported – huh?



  57. BobbyP
    9:15 am October 7, 2012 Permalink

    pssssssssst…..i bought a farm near lexington last week…..my side squeze says itz da bomb…and i bought a four wheeler soz she dont fall off….



  58. wildcatdon
    9:35 am October 7, 2012 Permalink

    Joker needs to play Mobley a whole lot the rest of the way..He has already burned his redshirt so sit Sanders for a while and give the bigger,better back a chance to play..Joker and
    his “playing favorites” is enough to drive me and many others crazy….Mobley needs to play..If Mitch doesnt end this crap soon we wont even find a team that wants to play us..Make
    the announcement now and let him coach through the end of the season but put an end to this dumpster fire..



  59. fatkidineastky
    10:27 am October 7, 2012 Permalink

    I concur wholeheartedly with #20 “Joker has had decent recruiting classes essentially each year, and through player attrition and poor coaching, they simply go away. The ONLY reason we always play freshmen is because Joker and his staff have not ruined them and sucked out their confidence and heart.

    and

    # 39 ” RichBrooksTomatos Says:First you fired all my coaches. You know, the ones who laid the foundation of our success. Then you turned our physical team into a finesse team. Now you blame losses on lack of talent and injuries. Even a papaw’s tomato knows if it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it.”

    These statements reflect the current state and path of our program



  60. ukcst58
    10:45 am October 7, 2012 Permalink

    The reality is we will be 2-10 at year end. That comes on the heels of 6-7 and 5-7. Attendance is horrible, under 50,000 and maybe really 40,000. The media says we are a joke many times in offhanded comments every week. THERE IS NO CONFIDENCE IN THE JOKER –
    What about this does Mitch or anybody else not understand. Another year and the rebellion against the FB program will be a national disgrace –



  61. Kelly
    10:57 am October 7, 2012 Permalink

    #28. I’m a big UK fan. Just trying to make light of a bad situation. Right now that’s all you can do. This is a throw away season, and it’s not going to get any better. Might as well make jokes.



  62. Bluegrass Jimmy
    4:09 pm October 7, 2012 Permalink

    I gave up my 4 season tickets two years ago! They were good seats that I made better every year by more K-fund money and other things. There comes a time when it is NOT worth throwing money away with hopes of watching an SEC contender!
    HIRE PETINO!!! He can fill the seats with WINS, IF we don’t care about wins or losses why the hell do we have a score board?????
    I heard Mat say NO WAY would we hire Petino, REALLY MAT!!! If we don’t have the balls to hire a winner we will be watching 1 or 2 win seasons for a long time and eventually we won’t need a damn stadium that seats 70,000. HELL we won’t fill a 15,000 High School facility!!! People are NOT going to pay THOUSANDS to see high school football!!!