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Calipari and Crean comment on the end of the Kentucky/Indiana series

After Indiana’s statement that the UK/IU series is over for the time being, John Calipari shared his thoughts with ESPN’s Andy Katz:

“We’re not going to play. We’re not going to do a home-and-home. That’s out. They don’t want to play two games in the state of Indiana, which I’m fine with. There are a lot of people who want to play us.”

Cal said he was willing to play both games of a neutral site series in Indiana, and since IU refused to that, the blame lies on them for ending the series:

“We were willing to play them both in the state of Indiana and they said no to that. That means they don’t want to play us.

By text message, Tom Crean claimed IU’s reason for not agreeing to a neutral site series was that higher ticket prices at Lucas Oil Stadium and other proposed venues would prevent students from being able to attend:

“We couldn’t have gotten our students up there. Prices would have been too much to get them there. We will have around 8,500 students. The bottom line is that they didn’t want to play home-and-home and we did. We looked at it hard but it belongs on campus.”

Although many media members are spinning the end of the series as a win for Cal, who has the power to stand his ground on issues like this, the real losers are the fans. Next season’s game would have been epic, with both teams most likely ranked in the top five. I understand Cal’s reasons for not continuing the series as is, but Crean’s argument that students couldn’t afford neutral site tickets is ludicrous. It seems bridges have been burned, but in the future, I hope the two can come to an agreement so a new generation of fans can enjoy one of the better rivalries in college basketball.

Article written by Mrs. Tyler Thompson

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54 Comments for Calipari and Crean comment on the end of the Kentucky/Indiana series



  1. Doc
    4:10 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    One less time a year we have to listen to those cream bastards



  2. 3 fan
    4:14 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    UK looks like the loser to most people. Should have done this when IU sucked, not when they could be preseason #1



  3. srini
    4:14 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    though the game would/could be epic..we cant overschedule..we already have marquee games..



  4. Sexingtonky
    4:15 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Tom crean is a biotch



  5. MKG Fan
    4:16 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Fact is that playing IU doesn’t help us. They get some miracle win over us at their place. If we win at Rupp, so what, they will lose like crazy in their conference and aren’t even worth beating from an RPI perspective.



  6. TheNewOriginal
    4:17 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Good. Why would anybody ever want to go to Indiana for anything? I lived in Carmel/NE Indy for one year, biggest assholes on earth.



  7. Don't Care Anymore
    4:19 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Indiana was always my favorite game going back to the early days. But that ship sailed this year and I am not going to look back. I really don’t care if we play them or not. Too many fish to fry to worry about Hoosiers. Times change and this is an example of change to me. Just don’t care anymore about IU or playing them.



  8. Nelson Mandela
    4:20 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    The behavior of Indiana’s fans in Bloomington- spitting on our fans, sending a fan to the emergency room, verbal threats that were so over-the-top hostile they actually frightened our fans, not to mention flooding the court and nearly trampling one of our players- was so bad that even the President of Indiana University issued a public apology.

    And Tom Crean didn’t say a word. Not during the game, not after. So much for “Doing things the Right Way”.



  9. Slow Guy
    4:20 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Sorry I’m slow, but they turned down TWO games in b2b years in Indianapolis? What? Is that Butler Country now? LOL



  10. Cat89
    4:20 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    #3) Indeed,”we already have marquee games”. We have teams lining up to play us and happy to receive the mega payout that comes with playing the program that is #1 of all time. Non-story, let’s move on.



  11. Scott
    4:21 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    5….so playing a team that would come into Rupp as possibly #1 in the country doesn’t help? Ok.



  12. Big Blue 66
    4:21 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    If UK didnt want to play Indiana, at the end of the contract, UK wouldve just said, we dont want a series, I think Indiana is the program that doesnt want to play and they know even with every year being in Indianapolis, the BBN would engulf them like the 2nd rate, wanna be program that they are…..did I say…reining National Champs?…well if I havent……reining National Champs!



  13. Don't Care Anymore
    4:21 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    #2, UK always looks like the loser to the rest of the world but again, who cares? We have nothing to prove to these people so let them go. We get nothing from that series, unless it is played in a huge stadium on a neutral court. Anything other than that and it is useless to us.



  14. c1doc
    4:23 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    I have thought since back in the 80’s when I was at UK that both games should be played in INDY!! I had no problem getting from Lexy to Indy when I was a student and the IU students sure didn’t either!!! Big time cop out by Crean!!



  15. Big Blue 66
    4:23 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    screw RPI, look at the money. We would sell out Rupp if we played sister marys school for the blind. No it doesnt gain revenues to play big time games at home, you play them on neutral sites so your season ticket holders have to repay for their tickets and you gain thousands of incremental sales dollars for additional seating.



  16. catfanincolumbus
    4:24 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    I hate to admit it but I side with IU on this one. Shame on UK for choosing money over the purity of the college game.



  17. HOO HOO
    4:29 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Oops, I soiled my diaper again.



  18. Scott
    4:29 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    17: Yeah, me too.



  19. Big Blue 66
    4:29 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    16. ohhh here comes polyanna playhard…..I mean why dont we still play at Memorial then. Purity, the purity is in the benjamins, 1947 called, they miss their traditions.



  20. Eric K
    4:29 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Who care’s, F–k the LOOSIERS!! GO CATS!! THEY DON’T WANT TO PLAY US!! BAHAHAHAHA!!



  21. sutnzfro1
    4:31 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Fact is, IU has very little chance of winning this game anywhere but Assembly Hall.



  22. 3cats
    4:34 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Uk and Cal is taking a beating on the ESPN report of the game ending. The National doesn’t understand that this game was played off campus for years. A lot of name calling. Cal is always going to come out looking like the bad guy. # 16 SHAME on UK … really! and you state your a Fan.Our pre/conf season games are up there with the best of them UNC/ Duke/ Louisville



  23. TimDandy
    4:35 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Neutral site games would PREVENT IU students from attending? Do you have to be 25 to get a license in Indiana or something? It’s only 50 miles between Indianapolis and Bloomington.



  24. Scott
    4:37 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    I want my mommy.



  25. CrimsonCee
    4:37 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    How does the fact that IU doesnt want a neutral site mean IU doesnt want to play UK? They do want to play – at RUPP ARENA next season. And then in Bloomington. How is wanting to get more students involved a cop-out? We would have had no problem going to Lexington. It just doesnt make sense. Id think even UK fans would have wanted a home-and-home. Its just better that way. You guys can talk about how bad you were treated and all that, but whatd you expect? A goddam parade? A blue and white carpet? If you guys are thinking UK should take most of the heat for this, well, youre right. Seriously, we just wanted a home and home and have yet to hear a compelling reason this cant be. Can you guys help? Anything besides, “oh, we got treated rough.” i mean ive been to games in Lexington and got treated rough. Its part of it. You just smile and cheer your team and go on with your business.



  26. Mudcat
    4:38 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    UK doesn’t play at Memorial because Rupp is a lot bigger. Therefore, UK doesn’t play at Assembly because Lucas Oil is a lot bigger. They don’t play the Superbowl on a practice field. So, let’s play Butler or Purdue at Lucas Oil Stadium. I’m sure they’d accept that paycheck…I mean, game.



  27. WINNING!
    4:43 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Crean is the Loser. What would he know about what belongs? 3 years of mediocrity and he’s all-knowing? We can and will do better. I would be just as happy to play Georgetown or Virgnia, or WVU or Puke, or FSU, or Arizona, or Texas. Seriously, IU is lame and replaceable. They really blew it (meaning IU).



  28. WINNING!
    4:46 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    (alleged)CatFaninColumbus. Does purity of the college game include drunk a-holes trampeling college athletes while they celebrate like they just won the Super Bowl?

    Hey Crean, if you’re so worried about the student, stipulate that they be allotted 10,000 tickets and a minimal price?



  29. BobKYCats
    4:46 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Personally, I’d like to start a series with Syracuse or Kansas since we’re dumping IU, or maybe even Ohio State.



  30. CAUKFAN
    4:48 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    13. Agree. And don’t want to see our players getting mobbed by IU fans anymore.



  31. ICE
    5:02 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t understand why we could not continue the home-home contract?



  32. Megan
    5:08 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    8 – It was Indiana University Director of Athletics, Fred Glass, who issued an apology for IU fan behavior and who instituted some measures to address the matter in the future. Though as for that, efforts by IU staff to stop the vulgar conduct during the game and to stop the melee that occurred when the horn sounded were entirely ineffective. It’s difficult to see how “alerts” and being “on active lookout” could possibly change anything. And the ugliness wasn’t limited to the arena. It was city wide. I blame Crean in part for stoking it with his “no blue shirts” policy. You couldn’t walk down the street in a UK shirt without having to cover your child’s ears from the profanity thrown at you from car windows and pedestrians on the other side of the street – those who passed you directly on the sidewalk waited until they were clear to throw their f-bombs).

    IU fans disgraced themselves last year. We won’t let them forget. It’s part of their legacy now.



  33. catfanincolumbus
    5:10 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Big Blue 66: Just stating my opinion. No need to be a dick. And by the way, POLYANNA PLAYHARD??? Really? 1947 called, they want their vocabulary back.



  34. schwing
    5:14 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    what a BS excuse. what were student ticket prices to the final four? oh right, tom crean wouldn’t know.



  35. Current Nat. Champs
    5:23 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    IU fans disgraced themselves last year. We won’t let them forget. It’s part of their legacy now.

    Spot on. And ending the series was the explanation point. Screw IU.



  36. Current Nat. Champs
    5:23 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    make that exclamation point. Again, Screw IU.



  37. Vic
    5:26 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Mrs Thompson,
    You say you hope that UK/IU can work it out for the fans. Do you not read your own article? Cal even said he would play both games in Indiana !!! What else would you suggest ?? Geez !!! You just the typical average basketball fan who the only thing you know is who’s ahead at the end of the game.



  38. OhYouAgain
    5:45 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    IU has the rudest, most vulgar fans in fandom. WVU and their rauchy ways are nothing compared to the Loosiers. Crean’s an amateur…and the fact of the matter is, IU doesn’t want to play at a neutral site because he KNOWS the UK fans will outnumber the IU fans 10-1, just like they did in Atlanta. All that talk of a “neutral site.” There is no such thing in the UK basketball world. We are freakshows that travel well.

    Oh and #25 CrimsonCee…what on earth are you doing on a Kentucky sports blog? Get a life.



  39. PittDaddy
    6:17 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Dwight Schrute



  40. Burger
    6:56 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Indiana is a good state, but 80% of the basketball fans don’t really know much about the game other than other teams suck.



  41. KB
    7:30 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    I think IU’s insistence on home/home games was because they knew they could once again keep out UK fans at their home court. Wouldn’t have that control at Lucas or any other neutral site. No vicious fans, no chance to neat us



  42. mikezuelly
    7:54 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    this is absolutely ridiculous. UK won’t play a home and home. Thats comes across as scared to me. Everyone knows that if they play in Indianapolis UK will have more fans there. Calipari scared to go into bloomington against a raucous crowd, its not like they don’t have to come to rupp the next year?



  43. In Cal We Trust
    9:35 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    IU thinks that their fans can not make it to Indy for a basketball game?



  44. Jenny Craig Pitino
    9:55 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    Most teams that think that they have a chance to make it to the Final Four want to play a game in a large stadium. I guess IU worries about getting to a sweet 16 game.



  45. Bigcat4453
    10:11 pm May 3, 2012 Permalink

    IU can’t put fans in the stands at Lucas OIl Field? What happened to the IU I used to know that taveled almost as well as KY does? Are there not enough IU fnas in the Indy area to fill IU’s allotment of tix to a IU/KY game? The economy really has been hard on Indiana. Oh, Wait… I live in Indiana, and I think IU SUCKS !!!

    All the respect that anyone had for IU was lost years ago when they embraced an Idiot/Bully of a head coach.

    Wasn’t it Bob Knight who once said, “when it comes to rape, no sense fighting it, lay back and enjoy it’? I’m paraphrasing here… Anyone else see anything wrong with this?



  46. Duke sucks
    12:35 am May 4, 2012 Permalink

    It’s simple people UK and IU are at different places. UK is at the top we want to sell out huge domes and sell our recruites on this is the next step to the NBA. IU is kinda like UL in their still a couple rungs down the ladder. They need to sell their recruits a great collage atmosphere because they will be there for a while. The game this year made their season were it was just anther game for UK.



  47. ukbstith
    1:09 am May 4, 2012 Permalink

    Okay morons, who exactly are all the marquee opponents for next year. For season ticket holders, this sucks. IU will prob be number 1 next year. HARD TO GET BETTER THAN PLAYING NUMBER ONE AT HOME IDIOTS!! Trash talk all you want, but this was turning back into one of the top rivalries it once was, and it just sucks for college b-ball. IU wanted to play us, we should play anybody, anywhere…shame on us (UK) for this one.



  48. youknow
    9:23 am May 4, 2012 Permalink

    This makes UK look greedy and scared. We all know a neutral site gets both schools more money and exposure to recruits. UK fans travel better than anyone and no matter the neutral sight, it will be over 50% UK fans. Forget about the $$$ and beat those punks where they live.



  49. cd
    11:07 am May 4, 2012 Permalink

    I understand the whole idea of playing in a bigger venue for recruiting purposes, but what about our fans who have season tickets. All the games at home outside of the SEC suck. Why not try to schedule a home and home against another top team instead of a neutral site?



  50. lovemycats
    11:16 am May 4, 2012 Permalink

    25) blue and white carpet-yes, parade-yes. because we are UK. enough said



  51. thekid
    1:30 pm May 4, 2012 Permalink

    Both sides are being a bit dishonest here. Crean knows that the students and season ticket holders could drive the short distance to Indy for the game, that’s not that big of a deal. But it is better for the team and the fanbase if the game is in Bloomington at Assembly Hall. And Cal doesn’t want to play a game in a hostile environment because he’s scared his freshman can’t handle it. Both teams want the edge. A neutral site, no matter where it is, gives UK the edge because they wouldn’t have to deal with an incredibly intense crowd (Lucas Oil is huge and it’s not a noisy venue) and they would have more UK fans there than at Assembly Hall. A home-home series gives IU the advantage at home, but a disadvantage away. Regardless of your bias or what team you’re for, a home-home series is the fairest way about having these teams play, otherwise UK gets the advantage. Seems pretty simply to me.



  52. STEVE!
    2:15 pm May 4, 2012 Permalink

    UK is 17-5 against IU over the past two decades. Some rivalry. They need us more than we need them. Let’s move on.



  53. thekid
    3:20 pm May 4, 2012 Permalink

    If neither side will budge on their requirements, then why not just do both? A four year series of 2 neutral site games, 1 game at Rupp, and 1 game Assembly Hall. Problem solved.



  54. markp
    4:37 pm May 4, 2012 Permalink

    Should have kept the series a home and home basis. It’s COLLEGE hoops. First consideration should be the student fans. We look bad on this one.