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Cal will evaulate point guard play over next two days

In the words of the great John Short, “What happened?!”

During the SEC Coaches’ Teleconference this morning, John Calipari said that he will evaluate the point guard play over the next few days to figure out the best way to proceed. Jarrod Polson earned his first career start over a fading Ryan Harrow on Saturday, and Cal has even mentioned the possibility of moving Archie over to the point as well to solve the team’s ball handling woes.

With all the strife at point guard, you would think that was the player the team lost last week. Cal acknowledged the impact of losing Nerlens this morning and said that the squad spent most of Saturday trying new things to find what works moving forward: “What I’m trying to do is give this team the best opportunity to win games. … Without Nerlens, we’re a little different. That doesn’t mean we’re 40 points different. We’re going to have to play stronger.”

On today’s radio show, CBS’ Ian Eagle said the Cats looked “overwhelmed by the moment” during warmups on Saturday. Cal echoed those thoughts: “This team is a bunch of good guys. They want to do well. Some of this is just overwhelming. We just lost our best player.”

Regardless, it will be an uphill battle. “It’s one game. I told them after, I’ve had teams get beat up like this. I want to see how your respond, how you come back.”

Article written by Mrs. Tyler Thompson

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70 Comments for Cal will evaulate point guard play over next two days

  1. Greg
    12:07 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    I think Harrow has used up all of his opportunities. I hate it for the young man. It will be interesting to see where he goes from here. He’s just not mentally tough. Will be interesting to see if he will be with the team next year. At this point, I can’t see him staying.

  2. Tt
    12:12 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    What is there to evaluate? Harrow stinks. It’s FEB 18. Just play jarrod. Jarrod will be more than capable of backing up the harrison twins next. Harrow is probably gonna transfer. Invest in jarrod. He’s invested in the program.

  3. RICK
    12:13 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Coach a little ,that always helps.

  4. Jarweed
    12:15 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    I once heard Ryan Harrow say … You know, I hear so much of this nonsense about fighting against nature, you know the Man v. Wild sort of thing, and it really is nonsense. The wilderness just is. It’s not against me; it’s not for me. It’s here; it’s benign. It is what it is. And right now it’s windy.

  5. Ridge Runner
    12:15 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Unfortunately, losing Noel has placed the spotlight on our existing issues: 1)PG & 2)Player buy-in. I hate it that it’s there but it’s been there.

  6. jeremy
    12:16 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Who the hell is John Short?

  7. Ridge Runner
    12:17 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    3- That is ridiculous. He has been and I’m sure it won’t stop.

  8. miss ky
    12:19 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    anyone think archie, ryan, or alex will transfer? i dont believe they want to play for us anymore

  9. RICK
    12:21 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    7, If my bird dog keeps flushing birds i fix it or go to the next dog. You cant let players keep lowering their head and heading to the basket with no plan.

  10. Ridge Runner
    12:21 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    6- If John or the term big’uns mean nothing to you, do some research. If you would ask in a more civil manner from Ms T’s caption, I’d give you more info.

  11. Ridge Runner
    12:23 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    He has 6 players that offer any chance at all. Six. If Hood continues to improve, maybe 7. He has tried multiple one on one and team coaching. Everything from counseling to x’s & o’s. Yes, he may have not hit the right button but don’t say he isn’t trying.

  12. Steve
    12:24 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Can you imagine: 2 Mc AA, 4 more players ranked 40 or better in their high school class their senior year: and the TV announcer says they looked overwhelmed by the moment!!!!!!
    Those recruiting stats are better than 95% of college basketball and are sure better than the team Kentucky faced on Sat. With a 9 point run in the last 3 minutes we only got beat by 30.
    It ain’t physical it’s mental.

  13. Coach Jamin
    12:26 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    “and Cal has even mentioned the possibility of moving Archie over to the point as well to solve the team’s ball handling woes.”

    No. Just No.

    Having a point guard that plays with his head down and can’t see the other players is not a solution. Add to that, selfishness and we’d be worse than we are right now.

    I can see it now, Goodwin brings the ball up the court, setting up the offense.. dribble dribble dribble (continue that for 20 more seconds). Goodwin drives, throws up a shot behind his back under the rim, clank. Repeat. Worse than the shots Joe Crawford used to take.

  14. Sam
    12:26 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    I do with agree with Greg (1) in that Ryan will transfer. I don’t think he’s a cancer, like has been the case with some kids from years past, but I think he doesn’t lead. Instead of exuding confidence, and inspiring others, his mental softness hurts the faith of the other players. We need a leader. Nerlens is now gone, and the most important player is the PG generally, since he handles the ball the most. And if he’s not sharp, focused, barking out orders, and leading like a GENERAL, then his men will flounder. And that’s what we have happening now. We’re stagnate and uninspired.

    Thus, I think Harrow not only leaves but perhaps retires from basketball, unless he still needs to get his degree. I wish him the best. But the demands of playing at UK aren’t for everybody, and that’s all right. He can fit in with another program.

  15. Ridge Runner
    12:28 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    And let me self edit my own #11 comment…

    Hell, I don’t know if there is a right button for Coach or any coach to hit with certain members of this team. If they can’t get it nwo, there is no coach that can give it. But to say Coach Calipari isn’t coaching or hasn’t…is just crazy.

  16. Ridge Runner
    12:34 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    All we can do is hope for improvement and continue to cheer them on. As fans, we owe that I beleive.

  17. Mark
    12:35 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    #8. Harrow and Goodwin should transfer, because they will not get any playing time next year. Ryan Harrow is just a weak player both mentally and physically. Poythress should probably leave as well. Calipari missed on this group with the exception of Nerlens. Calipari has given these players chance after chance to change and they refuse. GO BIG BLUE!!!!

  18. Mark
    12:37 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    I will continue to cheer for this team no matter what happens. Thats what we do at BBN.

  19. Well let add
    12:39 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    I honestly think the guys this year thought if they put on the jersey they too would find success. It’s not that easy or evey team would be good.

    Harrow doesn’t seem to want the leadership role, rather the success from it only. Archie hasn’t improved from day 1 and Alex needs more time to mature. The 3 combined are the reason UK is where they are.

    I don’t know how to fix it and I’m sure Coach Cal is doing all he knows…I think they are performing like freshmen and nothing more. Another year or two and they would be awesome but we won’t see it and they’ll move on the NBA next year (not Harrow, the other two).

    Hope they guys next year are more like the previous freshmen rather than the average freshmen entering DI ball…we’ve been spoiled over the last 3 years. Nothing wrong with the kids other than they are performing like your average college freshman. Frustrating only because of the success of the last three years.

  20. Ridge Runner
    12:40 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    17 (Mark), I hear ya on missing. And lets not forget to add…Florida, Vandy, & Memphis who missed on Poythress as well. Those 3 were right in the mix wanting him too. I just hate to say we misjudged him because they would have had him with open arms as well. I know that will prompt some to say, “wish they woulda”.

  21. bung
    12:43 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    there isn’t anybody left to evaluate at point…start Polson, Mays, Willie, Hood, and Wiltjer…point forward maybe? That still gives us Poythress to rest Willie and Goodwin a few minutes to see where he is … And Lanter and Malone for serious foul trouble…also we gotta score more points than the other team and that aint happening if we play half court only…

  22. UKFan
    12:44 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Glad Cal is finally getting around to evaluating Point guard play…. Its only the middle of Feb.

  23. Ridge Runner
    12:45 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Harrow is the one I just can’t figure out. He spends a year under Teague, should know the system well enough by game 5 this year to rock and roll with it. I won’t go there in regards to him missing personal time but even that was a bit shall I say odd. Anyway, then he comes back and I will never forget the post-game statement from a game early when he said…”I was just yelling things out there, anything”. –when asked by a reporter how he was doing with talking out on the court to the other players as the teams pg. Huh?? What?? Yelling anything? whewww… Again, nice kid but I can’t figure him out whatsoever. He’s not a freshman even.

  24. Ridge Runner
    12:48 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Harrow…and let me add there was even a few games where he did actually ok. So…again….what the???

  25. Winston Churchill
    12:53 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    I won’t say Cal isn’t above criticism, but you would think that the guy who took a program from the NIT to an Elite 8, Final 4, and National Championship in 3 consecutive years would’ve earned a little- just the teeniest-tiniest-ittiest-bittiest smidgen- of trust that maybe he’s a kind of/sort of good coach. Effing idiots.

  26. Ridge Runner
    12:54 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    26- Exactly.

  27. Just saying
    12:54 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    The question is what has Cal done to them?? When Harrow was “sick” Archie lead the point to wins over Maryland and a very close neutral site loss to Duke. Every single person could see Archie struggle at the point but looked aggressive and was scoring 20+ ppt from the position. Poythress looked like an allamerican against Duke as well. Harrow returns and has to “earn” his spot back and was playing great. Against UL Harrow had ZERO turnovers against their vaunted press. Since then Cal has had multiple players in the dog house, publicly called out several players and the entire team has regressed. It wasn’t long ago Harrow had “gained 8lbs of muscle and was showing leadership by his strong work ethic”. I think things went to shit at the Alabama game. UK was playing well and looked like they would win easily, then in the second half Cal could be hears screaming at Archie and Ryan to “drive the damn ball to the rim”, and in the after game he called the reason for the loss ” on our guards”. Since the Ryan looks like he has quit

  28. jeremy
    12:55 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    don’t care about your information. From the looks of your posts and the number of them…you are pretty full of yourself. and I don’t need your arrogant lecture. Sounds like you are about 13 years old. I just asked a question.

  29. jeremy
    12:57 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    referring to ridge runner in above post

  30. Bluehaze
    12:58 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    I’m confused and have been with this team. Especially Harrow.
    29, I think it’s the way you came across with your initial question. There is a way to ask something and a way not to.

  31. Bluehaze
    12:59 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    24 & 28, agreed.

  32. just sayin
    1:00 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    I think harrow has lost all confidence. He’s thinking way to much,and is afraid to make a mistake.same goes for poythress. Harrow or poy misses an open shot or turns the ball over he gets benched. I don’t wanna hear bc he hangs his head,bc they all do that. Polson got manhandled by golden. Lost his man several times sat, but stays in the game. Goodwin continues to play selfish, gets 2or 3 charges a game. Miss the open man, fall down everytime he drives the lane attempting his patent circus shot. Yet he leads the team in minutes every game. How does cal not bench him for his play? Now he considering moving him back to the point??? Just think with this team they should all be held to the same standard.

  33. asdf
    1:09 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Maybe they can toughen up Harrow. Have him do boxing on the side. Get him used to being hit and fighting back.

  34. Granny
    1:12 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    but they are just 18-19 year old boys.

  35. Sam
    1:20 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    33: Cal has said time and again that there are some guys play 30 min a game and they should be playing < 10 minutes! He has explained that he just has no choice but to give some players minutes. He has no bench. Next year, there won't be that problem.

  36. Aaron
    1:30 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    The enigma that is Ryan Harrow. Ridge, you are spot on.

  37. Weak Class
    1:37 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Nothing wrong with Cal. He got top notch 2013 class but the problem is 2013 class was very weak indeed. When you look at previos classes with similar rankings their is no comparison in talent level. Just a down year for incomomg freshmen. Next years class is back to elite NBA type talent and we will be in mix for championship again. In the one and done world there will be years like this once in a while when incoming talent level is down. by and large though I will take top talent each year and suffer through and off year occasionally when the freshman talent is weaker.

  38. Mass Confusion
    1:39 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    36. Cal didn’t HAVE to play Archie 35 mins last game, he chose to. We have some depth at the guard position. Why should Archie change if he’s still getting enough playing time to show the pros glimpses of they should draft him?

  39. Ridge Runner
    1:46 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Mod, please delete all other comments beside mine (Ridge Runner). I am the only one that makes sense.

  40. J
    1:49 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    I’ve given up trying to Harrow & Goodwin, I just don’t think Harrow has the mental ability to play for a coach like Cal who demands so much..Goodwin, god who knows..You’d think when a kid does the same screwed up thing 20 times a game he would learn but guess not.
    As far as Alex P. goes, I honestly think he just doesn’t care enough…Look at what he does every game almost…Soon as he’s in the game he will run out there and club someone within the first minute, then he will have the ball and step on the line, then club someone else…Next thing you know he’s casually walking to the bench smiling and gets to set the rest of the half…I honestly think he just doesn’t want to play so he knows with a few smacks he will get to hang out on the bench the rest of the game…And then when he hears all the NBA scouts still saying he’s a first round pick he’s cool with it cause he knows he’s going to the NBA so there’s no use going out there and working his ass off cause he’s already gone.
    I do know this, to much of the blame gets put on Cal…All he can do is tell the kids what to do, he can’t control what they actually do when they step on the floor. Yeah he can yell, cuss & jump up & down but he can’t walk out there and put them into position to make stuff happen.UK’s so called fans just give him way to much shit over 1 team…We’ve all been happy with his previous results, no one bitched when he won the title last year.

  41. benbo
    1:49 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Archie can fall down better than anyone on the team

  42. the501keith
    1:58 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    UK fans are delusional if

  43. Pamola
    1:58 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    #3- I agree totally with #7. The coach cannot play the game for them, they have to do something. Coach Cal has already said that they set up plays or make decisions in the huddle and the team goes out and does just the opposite of what was discussed. It is obvious to me that he has tried various coaching strategies. I don’t think they care, nor do they listen to him. He’s a great coach, he’s proven it over and over again. Since he’s been at UK we’ve been to the Elite 8, Final 4 and National Champs and now suddendly he can’t coach. Really!!!!!!!!

  44. the501keith
    2:01 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    UK fans are delusional if u can’t see the problems wit this team and it starts at the top! Never pulled for Kentucky till this year because of Archie, but the kid is a competitor and winner, wish he would have went anywhere but UK

  45. Excuse Me
    2:03 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    #40, Excuse me but # 38 nailed the problem!

  46. Ridge Runner
    2:04 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    #46 , thanks for agreeing with me.

  47. Pamola
    2:06 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    #38 makes a very valid point.

  48. Ridge Runner
    2:07 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    #48, thanks.

  49. Sammydog
    2:16 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    As a mental health professional, I do not think Harrow looks well mentally or physically. He has a history of developing symptoms when placed under pressure. It happened at his previous school and it has happened here. He was vomiting before games and just couldn’t perform. I suspect he has some kind of anxiety disorder. I would not be surprised that his trip home was to consider whether he should come back.

  50. Lol
    2:36 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    45 that’s just hilarious. good one!

  51. CatSinceBirth
    2:41 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    There’s been several good points made, but when you have the number one class in America, and you can’t do any more than what we’ve done this year, I don’t buy it that we’re in the position we’re in because of a down year. How about the teams that have far inferior talent that are much better than us this year. Think possibly the coaching might have something to do with it? For those with blue glasses on, I know, I’m an idiot, but think about it before you gut me. Were I the coach, Archie, Alex, or Ryan would hit the bench the first time they screwed up badly, or failed to hustle, never to return the rest of the game. I will gladly take a loss this game in hopes that I can get their attention, and possibly save two or three games we are destined to lose on down the road. Cal better hope he get’s the top class each year. Anything less, and his true coaching abiltiy may show it’s ugly self.

  52. mudcreekmark
    3:08 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    38) You are right in your about the talent level but this class is the class of 2012. Next years class, the one with the Harrison twins is the class of 2013. I hate to be that guy but I had to point it out.

  53. Dinner Bell
    3:23 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Forget about Harrow and the Cats, where can I find that golden clip of John Short getting abandoned on live radio?

    Hello? Hello?? Where is everybody? What happened??

  54. bhoward
    3:30 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Come on folks. Some of you are blaming this “weak” 2012 class for the team’s problems. Not long ago, four players were included in the first round of the NBA draft (some had five with Harrow in there). Its silly to talk about the so-called lack of talent. Not true. These guys just aren’t getting it done. Calipari’s “system” just not working this year. You can spin it how you want but this is a year where the young guys just are coming through.

  55. Bill McKenney
    3:55 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Maybe Calipari should try coaching a team instead of one or two players. You got to be prepared for someone getting hurt. He is more interested in getting players in the pro’s then anything.

    Still a BIG BLUE FAN in NC

  56. Ryan's Mom
    4:06 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Why is Ryan getting all the bad publicity? Archie Goodwin is the one stinking the court up from one end to the other. Gets 4-5 shots blocked on him each game, turns the ball over 4-5 times, has hit one 3 in sec play. Generally can’t do anything right. Selfish POS also!! Leave my little Ryan alone!

  57. dontgiveup
    4:09 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    I think coach Cal relied to heavily on Noel and didn’t prepare for what happened. Let’s not give up on him and the team yet. They obviously don’t have the talent of last years players but if Davis had gotten injured last year and went out, how would they have done? This years team just has to have confidence in themselves and move a little faster. I think they can still improve!

  58. real blue
    5:00 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    Ryan came back before and he can do it again – needs to get his head straight. Polson can keep pushing him.

    Wiltjer & Mays need to shoot and keep shooting.

    Poythress & Goodwin – attack the basket.

    WCS will keep improving.

    Go Cats!!!

  59. goukats
    5:32 pm February 18, 2013 Permalink

    I wonder how many people would be making the comments i’ve read on this board if Calipari had’nt provided the fodder.Since these guys have started practice,all we’ve heard from Cal is how hard it is to get them to play.It appears the guys have heard him and given up.As for Harrow,who knows what his problems are,he is in his second year and based on reports from last year all were expecting great things from him.There are times he has looked great and times not so great,and his coach keeps diverting attention toward him.Give the kid a break,along with Poythress.These guys appear to have had their spirit broken and are probably playing to get the season over .

  60. Mel
    2:57 am February 19, 2013 Permalink

    Ryan Harrow is going to sign a contract with the Pittsburgh Pisces. He’s been promised a spot besides Set Shot Buford and the twin Shiekh’s at the guard position. He should have alot of FUN in that environment!

  61. reality fan
    6:58 am February 19, 2013 Permalink

    OK Fans Lets face some reality WE ARE SPOILED We have gotten used o great players and one and dones…But hey these are Freshman that have had no senior leadership on the floor with them as the previous team did…Given our PG play is bad harrow is not the man I think Goodwil will come along in the future Sometimes We have to invest a few years of being patient with players. We hav gotten used to those special guys who really understand what it takes and “Get It” So everyone settle down, BBN IS alive and fine Sometimes you have to be in the valley to appreciate the peak of the mountain once you get there.

  62. Jones
    10:24 am February 19, 2013 Permalink

    #52 SinceBirth this dude sounds like an idiot and I have seen his dumb ass posts on numerous sites. Matt n the boys won’t sensor this like Ben does on Next. You don’t know shit about recruiting as a whole. This whole class was bad. Even from a stand point of top end talant. So none of the top classes rely on Frosh like UK but UNC is not back boned by Frosh UCLA not…. an 18 yr old kid does not show up on campus and become a leader. There is a number of top notch points on here and some real arm chair SHIT opinions that makes the rest of BBN look bad and give us our wonderful reputation. I’m not a huge Cal fan myself I do not love the focus on the ones that are gonna make him shine. Everybody around the program know the Jorts situation, he achieved despite Cal initially then Cal seen he could compete and there is a heart in there but we will never have a Jorts or Miller under Cal cause he does not recruit 4 yr players to develop with those left over Schips….. No doubt there is a discussion out here by the guys that get paid to do this opinion shit Donovan or Cal as far as recruiting philosophy truth is Jim and Joes win games with X’s and O’s. You think you last 30 yrs in D1 if you don’t know what your doing but typical Cat fan Love when your coach has his own show on ESPN but when he WHAT IS NOT DOMINATING THE SPORT A 4th year he needs a bunch of Arm chairs schooling him on what TOO DO… Too Bad I hear Coach O was gonna start taking suggestions back to Cal from KSR starting Next Wee..Damn

  63. Bleed blue2
    10:42 am February 19, 2013 Permalink

    Harrow should have to fight for playing time, early in year he had to and improved each game. Archie did well at point, only lost one game (against duke) with him at pg. He had good scoring, assists and rebounds. Almost a triple double one game. Polson gives all he can but better at sg, he can really shoot. That would be another weapon and surprise other teams, they don’t know much about him. Guys need to get the ball to our bigs closer to basket, not 10-15 feet away. Bigs need to block out more. When they see an opponent moving out of corner of eye, slid over a little in that direction. They will have to change direction or bump them. Don’t be afraid of contact, basketball is a contact sport also. Wither needs to learn jump shot off dribble and pass quicker because teams know how good he is in open looks. Poytress. Needs to be the player he was in duke game. They all need to play as a team more, they need to watch some games from the Dan Issel era and know what passion for the game and the school is really like. To see grown men after a loss to actually cry on the court because they played their hearts out and it wasn’t enough. That’s passion, that’s what they lived for then, not looking forward to NBA (that was icing on the cake), but to try with all they had to win the game no matter the odds, because to them it was possible to win. These kids need to believe that and to believe in themselves and each other.

  64. Jus Sayin
    11:00 am February 19, 2013 Permalink

    People saying we should start Mays, Hood, Polson, and Wiltjer want to give up 100 points a game and miss the tournement.

  65. Randall Channell
    11:41 am February 19, 2013 Permalink

    I agree that Goodwin is the last person to run the point – he can’t dribble with his head up and he is a turnover waiting to happen. Hopefully, goodwin, harrow, and poythress will not return. I would rather lose with them on the bench than with them on the court!

  66. broganic
    11:33 pm February 19, 2013 Permalink

    With Noel going down it just means others will play more timid as to not fall completely out of the draft with an injury. Poythress is done because of this. Great talent , no heart.

  67. broganic
    11:35 pm February 19, 2013 Permalink

    Has anyone entertained the thought of Noels return? Will it be next year as a Wildcat?

  68. thom adams
    1:45 am February 20, 2013 Permalink

    Well, Has anyone heard of a no-guard offense? There are one guard, two guard, and three guard offenses, even four guard offenses in some mid-majors. How about NO guards? Put Archie at small forward with Alex, and Kyle at power forward with WCS at Center. Use Polson as a ball-carrier (not a guard) whose job is not to turn the ball over until it reaches another player. Then. all bets are off.

  69. abudhabitkat
    2:49 pm February 20, 2013 Permalink

    We need strong and consistent point guard play to be competitive. The point makes others more effective by getting them the ball on the floor at the right place and time to leverage their best against their opponents. When that does not happen players drive into charges, shoot beyond their range and try to be what they are not. Our team is all that right now – schizophrenic and the development or buy in is not there due to the absence of solid point guard play game in and game out.