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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Should Cal push Lamb and Knight to stay?

What is a college coach’s responsibility?  Does he have a responsibility to make his team the best it can be OR does he have a responsibility to give the best advice to his players?  Because sometimes those two things counteract one another.  For instance, there is no doubt that Eric Bledsoe could have greatly helped this years team.  But, it was probably better for him to leave school when he did, get drafted and get his family out of poverty.  And while I don’t remember Calipari saying that Bledsoe should leave, I feel very confident he didn’t try very hard to get him to stay.  Same likely goes for Daniel Orton, although under different circumstances.  Cal and Orton had a poor relationship it seemed, so Orton was going to go no matter what Cal did, I would guess.  But again, nowhere in any quotes I saw did it say Cal tried to get Orton to stay in school.  And judging from his draft night statements (“greatest day in UK history”) it didn’t seem his was too disappointed.

Which brings us to Year 2 of the Calipari experiment.  And while what happens in the tournament will have some effect, it is almost inevitable that both Doron Lamb and Brandon Knight will have difficult decisions come April.  Bothguys have been included in 1st roundprojections at different times, with Knight on the borderline of the lottery, andLamb barely in the 1st round.  Currently, nbadraft.net has Knight selected 16th, 2 spots out of the lottery, while they don’t include Lamb until the 2012 draft.  But, other projections have called Lamb a late 1st-early 2nd guy.  And as Matt and others have said so many times, there is nobody on the roster wanting to get to the NBA more than Lamb.  So his draft stock might not need to be as high for him to go, much like Orton last season.

What I will be most interested in though is this: If on the borderline, what will Cal push these kids to do?  There is NO DOUBT that if both of these guys come back, the Cats will be beyond fantastic next season.  And Coach Cal is the coach of the University of Kentucky men’s basketball team, which means his main objective is to make that program successful.  Trying to get those guys to stay would seem to be what Cal should do in order to try and field the best team possible.

But, some would argue that Cal has a GREATER RESPONSIBILITY to lead these young men to the better decision for themselves.  If you are Brandon Knight, and you feel like you will be a lottery pick in a fairly weak 2011 draft, declaring after this season might be a better decision for you, financially and personally.  Is it Cal’s job to push him towards that decision if it is actually better for Knight but worse for Kentucky? 

And what about Doron Lamb?  Lamb could clearly use another year (or two) of college to develop some other skills besides a great jump shot.  But, 2011 is a weak draft class andeven if Lamb improves, he might still be a late 1st round pick in 2012.  Sometimes we assume guys WILL improve the more they stay is college, but maybe Lamb has already reached his peak.  I would imagine Coach Cal would know better than us.  So maybe for Lamb’s sake, he should go ahead anddeclare this season.  Even if Coach Cal knows this, he also knows that having Lamb on his team next season would be great.  So, where should Cal stand on Lamb?

It is a conundrum that UK fans have not faced under Tubby and Gillispie.  Generally, those coaches had very few players that had the talent to leave early.  Keith Bogans might have been the one exception.  Randolph Morris left too early.  Azubuike left too early.  Rondo left at the right time.  Andin those 3 cases, the coaches position to take was obvious.  With Cal, you have these guys who COULD leave and get drafted, but it’s unclear whether they SHOULD leave.  They could potentially get better with another year at UK, or they could take the paycheck quicker.  Last year, Cal seemed to tell these guys to take the paycheck.  Will he do that with Lamb and Knight this season?

What do you think?  Does Cal have a greater responsibility to the fans to put try and put the absolute best team on the floor each season, or does he have a greater responsibility to his players to give them the best advice for their future?

Article written by Bryan the Intern

129 Comments for BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Should Cal push Lamb and Knight to stay?



  1. Cubbiesfan05
    9:05 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    first



  2. Joseppi
    9:05 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    First! I’d just like to thank BTI for giving me this opportunity for being so on time. I couldn’t have done it without him.



  3. Joseppi
    9:06 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I hate you Cubbies



  4. WildcatsOne
    9:08 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Cal has said repeatedly that the program is about the players, period. He will put their interests before those of the fans. Furthermore, for us to keep getting the best recruits, Cal has to keep putting them into the NBA….and quickly. That is how the system works….and I will take it gladly.



  5. Chris Harrison's Shoe Collection
    9:11 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    What the coach says to a player in this situation matters little. Anyone who actually believes Mashburn, Mercer or Cousins would have actually stayed had the coach given them different advice is a bit naive.



  6. Cory Brandt
    9:11 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    If Brandon Knight is on the cusp of the lottery, he should go…Doron Lamb needs to stay 1 more year because he is not ready for the league yet. Eric Bledsoe is quoted as saying the NBA is tough and if he would have known he would have stayed 1 more year. Lamb has the jumper for NBA but needs to develop more.



  7. carolinablueispasttenseforcarolinablows
    9:13 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    The player’s best interest comes first in Cal’s system and that is how it should be. Their dreams are to go to the NBA and if Cal thinks they’re ready, he’d be doing them a disservice by trying to talk them out of it. Knight has the most to think about. He’s probably a little short to play the 2 in the NBA but that’s exactly where he’ll find himself playing next season at UK if he were to stick around. Teague is a pure pg and will most likely get the majority of minutes at that spot. Knight needs some more polish at the point but he won’t get that if he sticks around next year. Conundrum for sure.



  8. me
    9:13 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    What about the NBA lockout? You might go and get drafted but sit for while to get paid when you could have been playing and improving your stock in college for next years draft.



  9. ukfan
    9:14 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I think after the season he has had and individual workouts that Brandon Knight will shoot up the draft board, He is a capable point guard who can really score. If Bledsoe can go 18th in a strong draft then Knight can go lottery in a weak draft. So I think he is as good as gone, plus he wants to be a point guard and with Teague coming in next year he wont get that opportunity. Now Lamb is a different story, He can score but he needs to get stronger and work on handling the ball better. He needs to come back and he will be an established starter on a better team with more opportunity to go deep in the tournament. I think Cal will get info from his nba people and push those guys forward if the information suggests they should move on.



  10. ElDuderino
    9:15 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Are we going to have enough scholarships to go around next year if those guys stay? Especially if we are adding more to next years class…



  11. NotBTI
    9:15 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Lamb keeps on pushing my love over the BORDERLINE (BORDERLINE!)



  12. Nowisthewinterofourdiscontent
    9:16 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Calipari has a responsibility to make our team the best he can. Screw the NBA.



  13. Hugo Stiglets
    9:16 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Joseppi Fail



  14. Danzigman
    9:17 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    What about Jones? Another issue is if they go and there is a lock out then they are basicly screwed, as I understand it if there is a lock out no money will be paid to the draftee until the lockout is over. It is a good possiblity that both the NBA and the NFL have lockouts in the near future.



  15. ace883
    9:18 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Cal will do what he said he will do..which is to support the decision of the player and players family…he also said if you are a top draft pick you should go…if you not ready then it’s his responsibility to let you know that as well..then it’s your choice what you do with that info….Bledso has said he should have stayed another year…and Orton left on his own…mistake on his part…or was it…maybe the knee goes out again and he becomes a draft risk…and NO…Cal should be talking players out of leaving, who are ready and prepared to leave..my 2 cents



  16. ace883
    9:20 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    woops…correction on last line..shouldn’t be talking players out of leaving who are ready and prepared…



  17. tathagotta
    9:26 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Another long BTI post skipped…. Blech.



  18. Schollies
    9:26 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Next year’s scholarships:
    Defionitely:
    ————
    1. Miller – SR
    2. Liggins – SR
    3. Poole – SO
    4. Vargas – SR
    5. Hood – JR
    6. Teague – new FR
    7. Gilchrist – new FR
    8. Wiltjer – new FR
    9. Davis – new FR

    Probably:
    ———–
    10. Lamb – SO

    Maybe/Hopefully:
    ———–
    11. Knight – SO
    12. Jones – SO
    13. One more signee

    Non-Scholarship team members:
    ————
    Polson

    By my count that makes 13 scholarships for next year if we sign one more. If we don’t sign one more, Polson probably gets a scholarship for next year like he did this year. Did I leave someone off?

    Bubba



  19. PharmSchoolFan1989
    9:26 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I’m pretty much with everybody else here. The Kentucky Wildcats will always be there. Players only get to live once and get to do this once. I know if I were a player I would want a program that was all about me. Playing college basketball is not a sideshow for people to be entertained by; it’s a program that allows you to better yourself and grow as a player/person. If they are ready to move on, then let em move. I think Cal lets them make their own decisions and gives them reliable info; that’s what he should do.



  20. Cristoforouk
    9:26 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Cal will tell players to go when they are ready. IMO, there is not one player on our roster that is ready for the NBA. No Cousins. No Wall. No Patterson. No Bledsoe. Kanter is the only one that will play right away in the NBA. All the other guys will be sitting for a few years. I don’t think it’s a matter of where you will be drafted as some of you are saying (unless family issues cause you to need the money), but more a matter of are you ready for the NBA and capable to sustain a career there? Jones, Knight, and Lamb all have a long ways to go before they are contributing in the NBA.

    On another note, Cal has already alluded to the lockout and that he expects that to happen. He also said all his guys will really have to think about that. I think that shows that Cal is not pushing any of these guys to the league. Last year’s team was different. Guys like Wall, Cousins, and Patterson were men among boys. We have nobody on the team like that this year.



  21. BlooBloodCat
    9:27 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Putting the player’s best interest first IS putting the team first as well. These two are not mutually exclusive.

    I think Jones’ decision is actually a harder call and he should probably talk to Bledsoe who just recently said he would have stayed if he had known how hard it was. Jones and Lamb both could probably benefit from another year to mature IMO. But whatever looks best long term for all of them is what Cal should advise and what they should do.



  22. UKFAN97
    9:27 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    He doesn’t need to encourage or discourage players to stay or go….just give them positives and negatives of both and let the kids and their families decide.



  23. C'mon Time Warner
    9:27 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    It’s not rocket science. You get some inside draft status and make your decision. A lot happens before the players have to declare once the season ends. So far no bad decisions have been made…unless you’re the Orlando Magic.



  24. Cristoforouk
    9:28 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    18 – Twanny Beckham



  25. PharmSchoolFan1989
    9:31 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Another point. You convince a player to stay. He pulls a Robbie Hummel. You can’t take your chances with a career that depends so much on your health.



  26. Schollies
    9:33 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    24 – I thought Beckham was coming as a walk-on. If he is going to be a scholarship player next year, then all 13 are taken and any new signees would necessitate someone transferring or giving up theirs.

    Bubba



  27. walter sobchak
    9:34 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    18 – good call. I think we see Jones going pro this year so you can take him off an add Twanny Beckham. I also think (and obviously hope), just based on the importance Knight and his family have placed on academics, that he stays one more year. He will be close to a college graduate come May 2012. I do think he’s good enough to go this year though – no question. But even if he stays – we still have one spot open.

    As others have said, Lamb needs another year – I think he needs to start eating more spinach.



  28. BGrassKY
    9:36 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    “Does Cal have a greater responsibility to the fans to put try and put the absolute best team on the floor each season, or does he have a greater responsibility to his players to give them the best advice for their future?”

    I think Calipari believes these are one and the same. You have to spend money(talent) to make money(talent). If he stifles these guys, then he doesn’t continue to get all of the big talent. Clearly, Cal’s philosophy is that there is a win-win when all of the best players come here and play together as the absolute best team (like last year and next year), then move on to the NBA. The only thing that will change that is if the NBA/NCAA does away with the one-and-done.



  29. walter sobchak
    9:36 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    26 – I think you’re right now that I think of it. So if you take Beckham off the list as a schollie and Jones leaves and everyone else returns (Polson will be “walk-on” next year), we would have two spots to fill.



  30. R. Smith
    9:36 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Its not a conflict of interest in my mind. In order to continue to get the best players (the “one and dones”) Cal has to continually put their interest above the program and his.

    But in doing so, its sets us up for the following year in another crop of recruits. At some point Cal will have a team diverse enough with veterans and rookies that will mesh the talent and experience to get us the national championship AND continue the pipeline of talent to UK.

    If Knight and Lamb go because of Cal promoting them , pushing them or whatever – then so be it. Its a necessary part of the process.



  31. Bob
    9:39 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    BTI,

    Please don’t forget about me!

    Sincerely,
    Space Bar



  32. Lazlo
    9:41 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Brandon may be able to graduate if he stays next year since he brought 25 hours of college classes to UK with him. He is probably the best student to ever to play basketball for us. It might turn out to be the right financial decision to go this year, but I bet he’ll want to get his degree. Either way he’s a super intelligent individual who’s a great representative for his family and his UK family.



  33. 25 Reply
    9:43 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    it’s called insurance



  34. Blue Blood
    9:43 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Coaches are hired to put together the best team possible to increase the teams chance of winning the National Championship. That should be his first priority, not giving advice about the draft. UK didn’t hire him to be a liaison for the NBA, he was brought here to get the best talent and form a dominant team that will compete for the championship.



  35. toni
    9:43 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Both! Cal has a responsibility to both the players and the program. If the player is ready and the draft status is high enough, Cal has a responsibility to encourage that player to go.



  36. bung
    9:44 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    i have a cousin what plays the conondrums



  37. bung
    9:45 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    he cant spell it neither



  38. BLUECAT
    9:48 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    In no way should Cal ever hold a player back or discourage him from going to the NBA for the simple reason of making UK better. Cal has an obligation to the player to make them as good as he possibly can, as he does to the school. But the team improves as the individual improves. No elite player will want to play for a guy that holds his kids back or discourages them from following their dreams to benefit the coach. Now if the player asks for Cal’s advice then he has an obligation to give them the best advice for them personally, even if it means staying in school. He shouldn’t push a player in any direction. Just advice him on what Cal believes is best for the player and let the player make the ultimate decision. Remember Cal needs the best athletes available for the DDMO, which is one reason why we get so much one and done talent I think. He can’t get that talent if he don’t help these kids achieve their dreams to the best of his ablilities.

    Cal did make some interesting comments on his last call in show about the potiential lock out in the NBA. Said that the players would really have to think about their decisions this year because they would not get paid during a lock out and he expects their to be one. Sounded like a different tone about the NBA than last year. Makes me think there could be a chance to get some of these guys back. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.



  39. Megan
    9:49 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Every year we hear how weak the draft is. It’s the perpetual boogeyman: Stay in school another year and you’ll drop in the draft, you’ll lose significant money. There’s always an invisible army of strong draft prospects who are ready to take your place in next year’s draft. But when next year’s draft is on the horizon, this army vanishes and the draft is once again, predictably, weak.

    Funny how that works.



  40. where are the posts
    9:49 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    18, 26,27……Beckham is going to be a walk-on and Polson would qualify for an academic sholly/walk on status as well next season. I believe we have plenty of space on the team. Don’t be surprised if he doesn’t ask Poole to redshirt or hit the road. I mean, if a guy can not learn the plays, why keep him around? Hood could always transfer. Even a Ky kid that grows up a die hard UK fan has to decide if “just being a part of the team” is what you want. Every year is going to be a revolving door with Cal at the helm. But,at least we’ll have a top 25 team.



  41. knightynight
    9:49 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    For those that keep talking about the “lockout” and players that will be drafted but not getting paid…

    I heard on ESPN radio the other day that those in the lottery, lockout or not, should go because Agents will likely cover expenses and pay for them. Those not in the lottery should wait…..so Jones should go regardles…possibly Knight.



  42. kentucky
    9:49 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    If coach Callipari is to continue to recruit the best players he has to be known as a coach who cares for the players and gives them advice that is best for them. He has to put the players above the program. Otherwise he will not be able to do the job he was hired to do. In the case of Knight and Lamb, I think it is clear that he should encourage Knight to enter the draft. With Lamb he should be a bit more cautious because there is a chance that he will not be taken until the second round. If that is the case then he will need to work with Lamb and Lamb’s family to help them make the decision that is a best fit. My guess is that he will encouarge him to enter the draft.



  43. hoss cat
    9:50 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    _

    Anyone who thinks these kids owe the university more than they owe themselves is a selfish pig. They have an opportunity to make more money in one year than most of us do in a lifetime. take the money.



  44. Bryan the Intern
    9:51 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Definition of CONUNDRUM
    1: an intricate and difficult problem

    Websters Dictionary. Boom!



  45. BigBlueFan31
    9:52 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    If Lamb and Knight stay we have the makings of the 1996 team. I watched them on youtube last night vs LSU. 120something to 97…lol. And we could have scored 150+ easily. Walker had like 28 in the 1st half…hahaha! There will NEVER be a better team than the 1996 National Champs!!



  46. BigBlueJim
    9:54 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Due to family health problems, I have 6 sets of tickets for the SEC tournament section 121, row 3, seats 1 – 6. Each set will go for face value of $325 per set. Anyone interested let me know and Thanks if you can help! We are sad about giving them up as this would have been our first SEC tournament, but family comes first. Maybe next year…



  47. Japrick
    9:55 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Cals responsibility is putting the best product on the floor that he can, but not to the extent of doing a disservice to his players. If they are ready, tell them they are ready. If they are not ready, tell them they are not. Then let the players make up their own minds. Simple really.



  48. Cristoforouk
    9:55 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Beckham is a walk on, but you just forget to add him to the roster.



  49. BigBlueJim
    9:56 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    BigBlueFan31, unless it is the 2012 National Champs!!



  50. Hold Up
    9:56 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I just think it’s funny that we’re talking about Kentucky sending 4 players (3 actual contributing players) to the NBA and yet here we sit with a 19-7 record overall and a 7-5 record in the SEC. I mean stop for a second and think about what that means. We have 4 guys…4 guys!!! on the team (3 that actually get to play) that we all agree are good enough, MAYBE not ready, BUT at least good enough to play in the NBA…A league composed of the best basketball players in the world. Somebody name another collegiate team for me that is going to send 4 players to the NBA, I don’t care what age they are. And if there is a team out there with that many soon to be 2011-2012 NBA players what is their record and what are they ranked???

    My point is that the scouts agree we have the best player, the fans agree we have the best players, the coaches agree we have the best players…so who’s fault is it that we are 19-7? Shameful…Cal has no excuse for a record like that and when you have the “most talented” players, players that are good enough to play in the NBA, and you lose the way we have this year you stick out like a sore thumb as being the weak link.



  51. Pat Armstrong
    9:58 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Cal has the obligation to be completely honest, and should also take the opportunity to counsel each player individually based on their needs, the “tea leaves,” and how they might specifically fit into either the NBA’s or Kentucky’s future. He’s obviously got a track record of telling these guys, only when they are ready, to move on to the NBA. The good news is that we have a coach whose experienced and honest with the players. They respect his advice. I would of course love to see all three freshmen top contributors to return, and feel that only Jones, on most days at least, is ready to move to the NBA. Even he can use an extra college year, but he’s much more physically ready than either Lamb or Knight.



  52. chad spalding
    9:59 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    If Cal tries to persuade players to stay that he knows are ready for the next step then he will be acting just like a coach down the road(((((Pitino)))))) He is not a selfish man and just does what is right for the players. That being said if he advises a young man to leave and they still decide to stay then that is a totally different story. (((((Brandon Knight)))))) 😉



  53. Park Diesel
    9:59 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    18.) I think you’ll see at least 1 willful transfer, Hood or Poole, before scholarships even become an issue. I could be wrong, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they both transferred.



  54. Cristoforouk
    10:00 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Just because someone is slated to get drafted high, doesn’t mean that it’s the best decision. Cal should be advising on whether they are READY for the NBA regardless of their draft stock. Draft position only should play a part for kids who come from tough financial situations. But even a kid like Bledoe was quoted saying he would have stayed in college another year.



  55. BigBlueJim
    10:01 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Hold Up…but as you said they maybe good enough, but not ready! Besides if we had Kanter or Orton this would have been a whole different team. Coach is not going to hold them back when the NBA waves tons of money in their faces.



  56. Jmet80
    10:01 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I think Cal’s first responsibility is to the kids he recruiits. They come to Kentucky to play for Cal, not because its the University of Kentucky. They come because they know he will tell them the truth. If He thinks they are ready for the NBA then he should tell them. If he doesn’t stay true to them eventually we don’t get those recruits anymore.. and Back to Tubby and Billy G we go… I will take what we have now thanks



  57. SexnNursinhomes
    10:02 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Let’s just recruit a bunch of Turkish professionals. That worked out well for us this year.



  58. Pat Armstrong
    10:02 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    An edit to the above comment…”The good news is that we have a coach who is experienced and honest with the players.” That’s a little better grammatically…Cheers! Go Cats!



  59. Al's IndiCats
    10:04 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I feel (and this is just my opinion) the NBA will have to change the rules from the one and dones to at least 2 years or an associate degree. It was the NBA that petitioned the NCAA for the one year in college because their scouts sucked at bringing in kids from HS, drafting them and finding out they JUST are not that good in the pros. The universities are the ones losing money, (travel, coaches being away from the families ect.ect.) and the NBA are using the college coaches as scouts evaluating talent.

    I don’t watch the NBA unless there’s a UK guy on that team and maybe the finals but that’s it. To me the pros are just about the money, not pride nor the team they play on….all in all it’s the money.

    The NFL has a two year rule….MLB has either right out of HS or the two year rule, why is the NBA that more different? Don’t get me wrong I’m happy as all get out things worked out for Eric, but he now wishes he’d stayed one more year….What does that tell you?



  60. Maxbps8
    10:04 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Both! That’s why he gets paid $4m/yr. He has to walk that tight-rope. He has consistently stated he will push gets, if needed, to the NBA like he did Derick Rose – tearing up his scholarship. And, as a Kat-fan, i am very concerned when i hear him say, “This is the greatest day in UK history!” b/c 5 players went in the first round vs. saying after UK won 5-NC’s in a row!
    i fear, friends, we have yet another coach that doesn’t ‘get it.’ KentuckY wants NC’s. Sending kids to the NBA and off to earn millions is great! Love that Tayshaun, Rajon, Wall, and crew are representing The UK in the NBA. In the end, if Coach Cal doesn’t win NC’s…he’ll go down in KentuckY lore after Rupp, Hall, Pitino…IE…somewhere in the middle of the road above Sutton and Gillispie.



  61. JWall
    10:05 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Cal should get them to stay and then he could break our record of 5 first round picks the 11-12 season.



  62. RondoPlease
    10:05 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    BTI, I used to defend you when people hated on you but honestly it’s gotten to the point where defending Hitler seems more logical. I hate you.



  63. krmcats
    10:06 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    The bottom line as I see it is where they project in the draft. If they are told they are a forst round pick; they gotta go. But, you also have to determine if there is going to be a lockout. Right now it looks like there will be & if you beleive that you should stay in school.



  64. UKfanfromWV
    10:09 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    1) As it has been stated before in the comments, both Cal and the players need to consider the upcoming class and the positions they will fill, if that changes thier role and they don’t like it they should consider moving on. 2) On a related note, recruits come to KY because of Cal’s record of preparing players for the NBA, if nobody goes this year that may discredit that record.



  65. knightynight
    10:09 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    60) Take your blood pressure medicine for the day. He has been here for a year and a half. Of course he wants championships you idiot! Who doesn’t? He also knows the only way to keep getting talent in to Kentucky consistently is to give talented players what they want! THE NBA!!! He strongly believes in Talent over Experience and this is the way to get talent.



  66. Megan
    10:09 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    This is the one thing I hate about Cal. Absolutely hate. He offers the same false choice as BTI. Do you encourage a kid to realize his dream and become a millionaire (right now) for the benefit of himself and his family, or do you have him return to school just so the coach can have some more wins? I wish I could slap him every time he presents that ridiculous alternative.

    Always lost in the maddening rationale is the value of an education and the value of simply being a young adult living away from home for the first time. College is an amazing experience that lasts a precious short time. But Cal never acknowledges those values. Maybe he hated college. But what’s clear is that he believes money is more important than life experience. That’s why he pushes kids out the door.

    Cal has an obligation to have Lamb, Knight and Jones sit down with Eric Bledsoe. But you know he won’t. And I really hate him for that.



  67. not looking good
    10:11 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    lets say Hood transfers like people think he should, and Jones, Knight and Lamb leave for the draft. NOW someone look at next years team….

    PG-Teague FR
    SG-??? (as of now would have to be Miller)
    SF-Gilcgrist FR
    PF-Wiltjer FR
    C-Davis FR

    Bench:
    Liggins
    Vargus
    Poole
    Polson
    Beckham

    That line-up looks younger and no better depth than this years team. Looks like a 6-man rotation with 4 freshman starting. If Lamb and/or Knight leave we can kiss that 2011 dream season good-bye. every UK fan needs to praying for the lock-out, otherwise this only gets worse with every great recruiting class Cal brings in. What happens in 2012 when Liggins/Miller graduate and all 4 stud freshman go pro??? Cal will have a recruiting class with 7-8 guys in it, and need to be filled with studs inorder to compete, and then we go through the same thing the next year. Calipari NEEDS these guys to hang around, so the good of himself, otherwise bringing him here will not turn out like he wanted “see those banners, let’s double ’em” will NEVER happen if guys dont hang around for atleast two years



  68. KyReds
    10:19 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    LET JONES GO !TALK TO LAMB & KNIGHT TO STAY!Jones is a ball hog!



  69. utahdrought
    10:20 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I hope Cal pushes BTI to leave



  70. Daggumit Larry
    10:21 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    UKAA is paying him $4,000,000 per year to put the best team on the floor.



  71. mjj2k+
    10:22 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    #50- Blow it out your you know what. You’re either a complete idiot or a complete troll, or both. Whatever it is, your post is too stupid to even debate.

    As to the initial question: The day that Cal shows any sign of selfishness in this regard is the day he loses his status as THE MAN to play for if you’re a player who wants the best, fastest track to the NBA. Cal and his family are financially set for life, while rare is the player who can say the same thing. Even a bottom slot in the 1st round guarantees millions of dollars.

    That being said, for someone like Doron Lamb, who is potentially taking a gamble on being drafted in a position that doesn’t guarantee a contract, then yes, maybe Cal should push him in the direction of staying. Not because it’s important to the team, but because it’s the right thing for Lamb. Hell, I think Cal should try to push Lamb to play 3 years, by offering him time at the point as a Jr. Teague and Knight will likely be gone, and no one in the 2012 class seems likely to come in at point and star from Day 1. Offer Lamb the Tyreke Evans role for the 12-13 team. Lamb would be much more desirable to the NBA as a great shooter and a guy with a proven ability to play some PG, than as a pure 2 guard, where he lacks ideal NBA size.



  72. Blueburg
    10:24 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Cal’s revolving door to the NBA won’t set well with the fanbase after next year without at least a Final Four somewhere in between. Having a top recruiting class every year should be a result of contending for championships not being a highly publicized stepping stone to the league. I like Cal but his job security is not just in pushing guys out to make room for more guys (Cousins/Kanter). He talked about hanging more banners when he first came. Knight needs another year to graduate and develop his size a little more and Lamb needs to stay and develop more consistency and defensively. But Gilchrist, Teague and Davis are all one and done. If Knight stays, it could be the year. If he goes, it could be alot of hype and ruined expectations and Cal will find himself on the hot seat. Remember this is Kentucky. I’m tired of seeing the Pukes of the world winning championships while we’re waiting to see if our point guard can somehow transform into a seasoned veteran by tournament time.



  73. Catsfan
    10:26 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I just can’t see how doron lamb I possibly a first round pick. He has no point guard skills making him a small NBA shooting guard. Compared to other NBA guards his athleticism is well below average. He will be a huge defensive liabilty in the NBA as well. To me all he can do in the NBA is shoot and he’ll have a hard time getting off shots against NBA defenders. To me he is a much less athletic form of Jodie Meeks and Meeks was a mid second round pick. Am I crazy or does lamb get really overrated because he is a guard playing for cal?



  74. Coach Enes
    10:26 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    This NBA Lockout is sounding very likely. David Stern met with a group of players last weekend for the All-Star game and basically told them to prepare for a lockout. ESPN talking heads are all saying it as well. The NBA Union/Owners have a ton of issues to iron out. The NFL does too, but the NFL is way too popular and lucrative to let a lockout actually happen. The NBA does not have that luxury.

    Guys drafted early will survive on endorsements and agent loans. The later drafted guys may have to find themselves a job for a few months. Tough call for those border line first rounders like Lamb.



  75. Just saying
    10:28 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    something doesnt make sense to me. Lamb was considered the “least likely” of the recruiting class (not counting Poole or Vargus)to EVER be a potential pro, much less one-and-done. He was known in HS for having a great mid-range game and a good deep jump shot, but the knock on him was he wasnt fast enough, athletic enough, and didnt always play with enough heart to progress enough to make the leap.

    So he comes to UK, doesnt like to play defense, doesnt always show a great “motor” and suddenly he’s a lottery pick?? Daron Lmab isnt really any better today than he was in November, so why the spike in NBA interest? The same thing could have been said about Bledsoe and Orton last year, neither really got any better but the NBA interest peaked around march for some reason.



  76. mdlUK1
    10:33 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I may be in the minority but Cal’s job is to win games for UK, not get players to the NBA. That is a by product. A bonus.

    If it is Cal’s job to get players to the NBA as fast as possible, he should have told John Wall to bypass college and go straight to the NBA, right?



  77. El Dude
    10:35 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Fixed it for you…

    1. Miller – SR
    2. Liggins – SR
    3. Poole – TRANSFERRED
    4. Vargas – TRANSFERRED
    5. Teague – new FR
    6. Gilchrist – new FR
    7. Wiltjer – new FR
    8. Davis – new FR

    Probably:
    –––—
    9. Lamb – SO

    Maybe/Hopefully:
    –––—
    11. Knight – NBA
    12. Jones – NBA
    13. One more signee

    Non-Scholarship team members:
    ––––
    Polson
    Hood



  78. Hold Up
    10:37 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    #71 mjj2k+…..Go [email protected] yourself. What’s stupid about comment #50? If you can’t win with the “best” players then there’s obviously a promblem with your coaching capabilities. Period. Pretty sure there’s nothing stupid about that, in fact I’d say it so damn near common sense…dumb [email protected] Go comment on an NBA website



  79. Jordan
    10:38 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Coach Calipari is a brilliant guy. What he did last year was a very smart recruiting method. He pushed all those guys to go to fully bring the UK brand back. Five guys in the first round had never been done. He will not push his players to leave as much now. He paid for bringing the brand back by having a slightly less talented team for one year, but will reap the benefits in the long run. Look at next years class. How much impact do you think the 5 first round draft picks had on those kids minds when they made their decision to come to Kentucky. I believe he will push Knight to go, but probably try to get Lamb and Jones to stay for another year. Coach Cal will get the majority of the kids he wants as long as he is at Kentucky. GO CATS!!!!



  80. PATRICK PATTERSON
    10:38 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Where’s the love KSR? I had a career game last night against Tayshawn’s Pistons. Here’s the video of my highlights.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4zBTmHzy8I&feature=player_embedded

    Even a cool interaction between me and Tayshawn in the post-game interview!



  81. Peoplewhowork
    10:39 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Cal’s responsibilities don’t including making the decisions for them. He needs to lay out the scenario and support both the player and the team. We can not pin players leaving as a problem with our coach. His job is to coach these men make them better and prepare them for their future. If they elect to leave early based on what NBA scouts are saying it is on them not Cal.

    There is a lot of Hype around the Kentucky program which helps draw the better recruits. However, it also helps drive them to the NBA. NBA scouts over rate our players (Orton) and we lose a potential great player so they can play in the NBA D league and develop. We can argue that a player who needs more development will be better off at UK vs NBA D-league but, there are many more considerations than just money. If a player had potential to rise in their draft rating and they were being under valued certainly they should stay. In Orton’s case he has a bad knee, he collected his pay day off the UK hype and my belief is he will never play substantial minutes for an NBA team. Bledsoe clearly has the skills to be an NBA starter.



  82. whatever
    10:39 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Cal has his responsibility to his players. Those decisions affect the rest of THEIR lives, not ours. Our life as a fan, is not as important as a young kid, on the cusp of their most important decision. He gives them the Pros and Cons and they go from there. Absolutely we want them back, but it is what is best for THEM. Not us



  83. someone tell me
    10:41 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    So were 19-7, with losses to Ole Miss and Alabama, 4 tough games ahead and the SEC tourny and the NCAA remaining. Barring a complete miracle we are likely to finish with 10+ losses, and Calipari’s first season NOT winning 30+ games in 5-6 years, NO SEC reg season championship and NO NCAA championship (not sold on winning the SEC tourny either)……

    Somebody please tell me again which THREE NBA players we have on our team!!!!! Because I simply do not see it. I see a team that maximizes it talent level and struggles to beat mediocre teams. I dont see a single player on our team that could start for the Cleveland cavaliers and that is the God honest truth. If these three guys go pro it will be humiliating to say the least when all three are in the developmental league.



  84. Larry Vaughts Droid
    10:43 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



  85. fla_ashley
    10:43 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    He can do what’s best for the program at the same time he does what’s best for the players. By pushing guys to the NBA whenever they are ready, he shows he cares about them, which benefits UK by increasing his ability to continue to get the very best recruits. It helps the program on a long-term basis by increasing UK’s stature with high school kids. It also assures more UK guys will be in the NBA which means UK gets more exposure everywhere which will bring more $ into the program. On a short-term basis it can hurt, but long term it only helps. Which explains why on draft night he said it was the greatest night in UK basketball history.



  86. Kanter Banter
    10:48 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    The freshmen are not ready for the NBA this year. They may be picked in the 1st round but this is a top to bottom weak class. So, from a $$$ perspective they got to take the money and run…….from a basketball player perspective they need more maturity.
    Tough call, individual decision based on family, etc.
    NO ONE SHOULD EVER TRY TO TELL A KID NOT TO MAKE MONEY WHEN THEY ARE GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU.



  87. Hold Up
    10:49 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    83…..I agree 100%. Thank you



  88. Captain Obvious
    11:00 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    He does have a duty to these kids to help them make the best decisions for their lives, and if they are ready, he should tell them such. However, he is the head coach at UK and he wasn’t hired to be a NBA talent scout. He is hear to build teams that compete for titles. All the talent is great, but if we keep having this revolving door, we aren’t going to sniff a championship. Next year is our year if a couple of guys hang around, but think about how thin and young the roster will be the year after that regardless of the outcome. We could be fresh off a title, 5 or 6 guys in the first round, and staring at a another 8 to 10 loss season. Or, we could be fresh off another mediocre season, 5 or 6 guys in the first round, and staring at another 8 to 10 loss season. A



  89. Bob Loblaw
    11:04 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Cal gets paid by the University, so it’s responsibility to make the program the best he can. He is not an NBA agent and these players don’t pay him after they go pro.



  90. William Braskey
    11:08 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    85 is correct. He is essentially helping both at the same time. Pushing Cousins out the door last year was the right move. Suppose he had satyed and had his ‘flare ups’ for this team this year. As much as he sacred us last year, he never was a detriment to the team. He wouldn’t be going Top 10 in the Draft6 this year if he had the hiccups he’s had for UK this year.

    Having kids know Cal will look out for them helps recruiting going forward. Which helps UK stay in the thick of the top classes year in and out.



  91. mjj2k+
    11:09 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    78- Is it that time of the month?

    They sell pills to help with that.

    Unfortunately for you, they don’t sell pills that help with being a pig-ignorant moron.



  92. bigeastisoverrated
    11:19 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Uk is paying Cal millions of dollars to win the national championship, that is whats expected of him, THAT is his job. Not to set the one and done record. Keeping talented players gives him the best chance to win it all. So for his jobs sake he should convince them to stay.



  93. Ice Cream Poop
    11:22 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Yes, he’s obligation is the build the best University of Kentucky Men’s Basketball program that he possibly can. His obligation is not to build the best possible UK Men’s Bball 2011/12 team that he can. The selected strategy to a sustainably successful program appears to be centering around a players-first approach. If that is your strategy, you remain a players-first program. In that case, Cal needs to be honest in how he views the landscape by player… ie where will you be selected if you leave today, where will you be selected if you leave later, etc



  94. Musehobo
    11:28 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    If you asked me whether I would prefer a system like Tubby’s/Pitino’s…a system that keeps players longer and develops them (while still winning), yes I would prefer that system. But Cal’s system works too. He will get the top recruits, which gives us a shot every year at the championship and other titles like SEC champs and SEC tourney champs (regardless if Cal cares about them or not). In order to do this, Cal caters to the players, he advises them to do what he thinks is best for them, regardless of the betterment of the current roster. This allows him to do 2 important things…gain the trust of some of the hottest talent in high school, and gives him the freedom to sleep at night knowing that when a kid asks him about what he should do…that Cal has been 100% honest with him. And because he’s bringing in the talent, his actions are not counterproductive to UK, but a vital part of how he makes winning happen here instead.

    And also, if Cal’s responsibility to UK involves him lying to a player about draft advice, than that seems far more corrupt and manipulative than I care to have in a coach.



  95. Blueburg
    11:34 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Kentucky’s stock is up but he could be sending these guys too early based on the afterglow of last year’s draft. Would that be what’s best for them? Brandon could have his degree plus a little more bulk and experience plus possibly a national championship if he stays. Look at PPat. McD All-Amer, 5 star top 15 player, sacrificed and is beloved by all of Big Blue Nation. He’s the one who “gets it.” He should be the standard we look for. Yes we need a one and done player or two a year, look at the ’98 team. But not 3-4 a year. You gotta build a championship contending program with a mixture of players. Let Jones go. But no honest Uk fan can say it was best for Cousins to go. I believe he wanted to stay. Bledsoe stated he should have stayed. Orton was like Jones with less playing time on a much deeper roster. This teams depth and success were predicated on Ennis Kanter. But Cal’s game of “Turkish Roulette” didn’t pay off. But our success should not be SO dependent on every recruit of every recruiting class. It should be about deepening the roster and adding extra pieces that are needed. Once again, I’m a Cal guy. But I hope he realizes that reguardless of how ridiculous anyone thinks our expectations are, it is now his reality.



  96. CatfaninNashvegas
    11:36 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    BK is definitely skilled enough to play in the league but Im not sure he is ready strength wise.



  97. BAYOUCAT
    11:37 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Hopefully the new CBA will stipulate that players must wait 2 or maybe even 3 years following high school graduation to declare for the draft. This has been discussed on ESPN. If this happens, then this whole argument is moot. Cross your fingers.



  98. RICK
    11:40 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Let them go.



  99. Cal is not an agent!
    11:40 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    “…Does he have a responsibility to make his team the best it can be OR does he have a responsibility to give the best advice to his players?…”

    LAST I CHECKED CAL IS NOT AN AGENT. UK IS PAYING HIM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, I AM PRETTY SURE THAT HIS ALLEGIANCE SHOULD BE TO UK.



  100. thinkabout it
    11:42 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    coach cal really can’t win with some of you idiots. if he recruits the best players in the country they will be “one and done”. if he doesn’t draft the top recruits the same idiots who are mad about the “one and dones” will be mad that UK doesn’t have a top recruiting class.

    as much as some of you all want to believe…no kid in high school has the ultimate dream of playing for UK (or any other school for that matter)..the ultimate goal for any talented high school recruit is to get to the next level. Yes, UK is an incredible place to play ball in the meantime but lets be honest here. cal will give them the correct advice which is best for the PLAYER and not for the Program and that is why he can recruit.



  101. i hate the internet
    11:42 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Players. Period. Cal is employed by a university, which exists to serve students.



  102. Rich
    11:46 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Hopefully in 3 months…the NBA will be in a lockout and this will be a moot point. Last year, the kids knew the lockout was a year away…so I don’t blame Bledsoe or even Orton for trying to get paid. But with the lockout looming this year…unless it looks like you’re going to be a lottery pick…I don’t understand the desire to even put your name in the draft.

    Lamb and Knight are great players, but I hope they stay one more year.

    As I’ve said many times…I still root for Jodie Meeks…but not like I root for Patrick Patterson. Patterson could have left…God knows that he went thru a lot having been recruited by Tubby, surviving the Billy Clyde debacle…

    If Meeks had stayed…we wouldn’t have gone 4-32 against WVU…we’d have been national champions. But regardless of what would have happened last year, I would support Jodie more now if he had stayed.

    I don’t blame Meeks for leaving but PP gets special treatment for taking the leap of faith to decide to come back.

    Not to mention, I’m tired of every single person that’s not a fan of UK calling us 1 and Done University. Unfortunately if all 3 freshman leave after this year, that trend will have reached its tipping point IN ONLY 2 years.



  103. Mack
    11:50 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I would have iked to have seen PPat stay another year, then change his ID and stay another 4 years, but that’s just me.



  104. Mack
    11:52 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    If Meeks had played against WVU it would have been an entirely different game, no way they could have stayed in that silly zone.



  105. Rich
    11:57 am February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Playing college basketball should still mean something…you know like playing for the love of the game…to be the best player out there…

    I guarantee if you ask a slew of players who are both NCAAB and NBA champions…many of them will look upon their NCAAB championship with as much fondness or more than their NBA championship.



  106. BlueBloodToo
    12:01 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    There is a way in which those two points could be related directly. If Cal does what is best for the player, then he becomes a coach that players trust which would also allow him to bring in the best recruits possible. I believe this is his angle which satisfies both of the arguments that you are posing.
    I believe his results in getting the best players at UK is proof of his desire to do this.

    I’m also sure that you could argue that the best thing for the player might be to spend another year in school to mature (i.e. Cousins, Orton, Bledsoe). I would probably agree with this, but the problem is that 16/17yo high school students aren’t going to see the benefit in this and if they do it will be too far down the road to be relevant to their recruitment.



  107. Blueburg
    12:01 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Championship expectations are a part of Cal’s reality that he hasn’t had to really deal with at any other school. After the last few years I’m glad to see most of what’s happening. But Kentucky basketball cannot live by recruiting alone. Cal has the best resources to work with. But each year must build on the previous year until #8 is acheived. These young men will be successful on the next level whether they are pushed or not (PPat). Try and work out of state and be around fans of Puke, Baby Blue, the Gaytors and so forth. You will be on the frontlines defending everything UK to the hilt. But if UK wins #8, their mouths are shut. Their #1 arguement is that Kentucky is done ’cause we ain’t won a title in so long. I want my son to experience what I experienced as a youngster back in ’78. That’s why I’m able to go toe to toe with these other fans. So give consideration to these young men but like no other college basketball program what sets us apart is our fans.



  108. Job
    12:10 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I think if Cal keeps getting these top recruits and continually push them out after one year then UK fans will lose patience with his young teams….besides neither Knight, Lamb, and even only knows how to go left isnt ready for the NBA yet anyway! Guess will jus have to wait and c



  109. SexnNursinHomes
    12:28 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    57- nice that you are filling in for me.



  110. Blueburg
    12:31 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Cousins would have been better off comin back. I don’t think Westpaul has the love for Cousins that Cal did. This would have been Demarcus’ team. We would be a strong contender reguardless of how the whole Kanter gamble played out. I think Big Cous has a passion like no other big man ever had at UK in recent history. Those who wanted Cousins gone are probably the same ones that were upset when they thought we’d lost Morris the first time. Cousins just needs guidance and my guess is Westpaul just don’t care. Cal cares but he had promises to keep to Kanter, just like he has with Jones. Please don’t recruit any more ball hogs.



  111. 3 fan
    12:37 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    To those worrying about scholarships, ain’t no way in hell Poole is back next year.



  112. fishersblue
    12:59 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    Jones and Knight leaving I would understand. Both will be guaranteed first rounders. But I don’t see Lamb being a first round pick yet. If we lose Lamb even though he knows he’ll be going in the 2nd round then I’ll be extremely disappointing. Why does everyone seem to think he’s so eager to be in the NBA more than anyone else?



  113. Blueburg
    1:00 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    With all due respect, getting the top recruiting class every year is not the ultimate goal. In fact, we will become the laughing stock of the NCAA if we get all these top classes and don’t win it all in the next 2 to 3 years. Calling fellow UK fans bad names doesn’t make it right. Listen and learn- we need to win our 8th championship. It is the only thing that will slow down the tongue wagging on our hiring coach and put the anti-UK media back in it’s place. Oneof the greatest thrills of my life was hearing Billy Pecker have to sweat out calling 3 national championships for us in a row and watching us cut down the nets 2 of those years on CBS.



  114. fishersblue
    1:00 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I haven’t found a mock draft yet with Lamb being listed in the first round. And I don’t see him going ahead of most of the names I do see being drafted later in the first round.



  115. Word
    1:16 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    113—Word! Spot on!



  116. indiana uk fan
    1:37 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    we need lamb if lamb comes back we will be fine!!



  117. not looking good
    1:48 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    113. While #8 would be the greatest goal to attain, I would like to just see us make a trip back to the Final four. Its been 13 years since UK went to the final four, and unless we get atleast 2 of the three to come back next year, I cant see the final four then either. After next year UK will have had 3 consecutive #1 recruiting classes and likely not only not have #8, but not have a single player from those 3 classes still playing for UK.

    I think its sad we are hanging on the CBA of the NBA to even pray these guys dont leave. Dont get me wrong, I hate Pitino and will never forgive him for leaving, but when i watch UL this season, and think they only lose Knowles and add a top 10 recruiting class actually scares me. I was with everyone else that thought RP was done when Cal came in, but he looks to have rekindled the fire, and looks to be building a monster down the road, at the same time we dont even know who will be on our team next year



  118. Just saying
    1:52 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    just a thought, UK has one of the toughest non-conference schedules Ive ever seen next year playing Kansas, UNC, UL, the BE/SEC, and we could be playing them with the youngest team UK could possibly put on the floor with 4 freshman starting. I hope both Lmab and Knight come back, and Jones honestly needs to really consider it himself. He gets knocked to the floor atleast 3-4 times/game in the SEC and he thinks he’s strong enough for the NBA? Go right young man, go right!!



  119. Nolecat21
    1:58 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    20)Draft position does matter. It matters for guaranteed money.



  120. Nolecat21
    2:15 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    50)You need to get a clue. If it was as simple as, the teams with the best players win every game, then why even play the games. Explain how Duke wins the Nat’l Championship last year with far from the best talent. Explain Butler in the Finals. There’s a lot of luck involved. The way the brackets are drawn have a huge effect. Upsets happen all the time.
    Cal’s record as a head coach speaks for itself. He’s had major success his whole career. It’s rare for young teams to develop chemistry as quickly as last years team did. This year’s team is showing progress and the season is far from over. People get too focused on regular season records. Mich State has 10 loss seasons almost yearly, but they find themselves in the Final Four a lot as well. How about we give Cal a chance before throwing him under the bus.

    60)Yes we’d all like another Nat’l Champ. But, be realistic. We’ve won 7 in the last 62 years. Only 7, and that’s awesome. As long as we’re putting a winning product on the court and are in the conversation of competing for a Nat’l Champ year in and year out, Cal has done his job. This year is no different. We’ve lost a handful of close games on the road. But, there are no road games in the tournament. Let’s get behind these boys and see what happens.

    66)Seriously, get a clue. Kids go to college to get an education, so they can hopefully land a decent job when they graduate. These kids have an opportunity to make more in 3 years than most of us will make in our lifetime. It’s a no brainer that you make the money while you can. They can always go back to school if need be with millions in their bank account.

    To all the nay sayers, would you rather have a Coach K who lies to his players to better his team and inflate his ego? Look up his treatment of William Avery. I’ll take Cal, thank you.



  121. UKGOBIGBLUE
    2:23 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    First: There is going to be a lock out (more than likely a long lock out) so it doesn’t really matter.

    Second: No one on this Wildcat team in ready for the NBA, talent or mental wise.

    Third: Bledsoe even said if he knew how hard the NBA was going to be he would have stayed at UK for another year.

    Fourth: Cuz is a prime example of what happens when you jump to the NBA too early, and your head isn’t in the right place. Lamb & Jones would both be train wrecks waiting to happen.



  122. Blueburg
    3:39 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    The bottom line is all parties involved benefit with Knight and Lamb coming back. If we have a respectable end to this season, Lamb and Knight stay & we hang on to the 4 newcomers for next year, plus add a couple more (Lacey and/or Daniels) then we are pre- season #1 with nc and u of l coming to Rupp. It will be ours to lose. That’s the way it should be.



  123. Blueburg
    3:50 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    117- another good point. I just think Cal is in an “all or nothing” position. ‘We get back to the Final Four, we win it all next year. If he coulda pulled off what he tried to do with Kanter, we would pretty much be there this year. I just think we gotta have Knght and Lamb come back reguardless.



  124. Bourbon and blue
    3:57 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    IMO, none of the kids are ready for the draft. Do they have the potential to be good NBA players, right now, no. Their performance throughout the season would only solidify their place in the farm league teams. Coach Cal has an obligation to the university first and the student athlete second. Deandre Liggins is the only man ready for a shot at a professional career at the moment. He has proven himself far more mature than he gets credit for.



  125. stegbrent
    4:15 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I know you people won’t like this but if Lamb and Knight stay then Cal should consider redshirting Hood AND Poole.They won’t get playing time anyway.And then when everyone leaves in 2012 we can see if Cal can develop these guys into players who back up the star one and dones and average in the 5 point range.This will determine his legacy at UK.Not how well his one and dones play but how well he can develop the complimentary players to full potential and fulfill their roles.



  126. tom9698
    6:05 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    They both need to stay and mature both mentally and physically.Agree with 125.



  127. JimNKY
    6:42 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    The coach’s job is to field the best team to represent the University. How he does that is his decision. I think the last two years prove that you need more juniors and seniors to back up the one and dones. That means an effort should be made to include one or two three or four star players each year who will stay long enough to learn the game. In the case of Knight and Lamb Coach Cal should give them an honest assessment of their readyness for the NBA and not push them to jump if they are not ready.



  128. Wildcat Fan
    7:20 pm February 23, 2011 Permalink

    I dont think Calipari should push them to stay but Calipari should persuade them into staying and i really hope they do stay because with next years recruiting class with this years freshman we could be unstoppable next year.



  129. t meiners
    12:20 am February 24, 2011 Permalink

    Matt joners is a known fag and a closet ul fan. meiners and matt lutk in parks soliciting undercover gay cops! matts “girls” on the website are men in drag!!!