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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Is Missouri poised to be the next Vanderbilt

Nobody can argue that Kentucky has generally been near the bottom of the SEC football standings in the last 25 years.  Some years they pop up into bowl eligibility, but they have yet to finish in the Top 3 of the SEC East standings since the league moved to a 2-division setup in the early 1990’s.  So, I don’t write this with the attitude that Kentucky is somehow superior in football than anyone.  But let’s be honest, more often than not, we are superior to Vanderbilt.  Until the last 2 years, when Vanderbilt has blasted UK by 30 or more points.  Last year’s game in Lexington was no doubt the low point in the Joker Phillips era.  James Franklin seems to have Vandy at the point where Rich Brooks had Kentucky.  Competitive, good enough to keep the fans happy, be bowl eligible most years, and not really compete with the SEC elite but also not get embarrassed by them either.

Generally, Kentucky has always been able to say it had a better football program than Vanderbilt.  They were always the team on the schedule UK knew it could be more often than not.  No matter how bad it got, it was worse at Vanderbilt.  But all of the sudden, Vanderbilt likely looks at Kentucky that way.  And Franklin appears to have that program to a point where they have staying power.  Which brings me to this point:

Let’s move away from Vandy and look at Missouri.

Yes, the Tigers beat Kentucky last year.  But so did everybody else.  The reason I say Missouri could be the new Vanderbilt is trajectory.  The Tigers entered the SEC last year after years of decent to high success in the Big 12.  Hell, just a couple years ago they were a Big 12 title game away from the national championship game.  But all the of the talent from that team is gone and the Tiger program has slid since then.  2010: 10-3, 2011: 8-5, 2012: 5-7.  10 wins to 8 wins to 5 wins.  That is not the direction you want to see a program moving.  We saw a similar direction under Joker.  We know this feeling. 

But the SEC hit the Tigers hard last year.  2-6 in league play.  Lost by 21 to Georgia, lost by 21 to South Carolina, lost by 32 to Alabama, lost by 30 to Texas A&M.  They had a bunch of scores that were similar to UK scores.  Clearly feasting on the Texas Tech’s and Kansas’ of the Big 12 didn’t quite fly in the SEC.  And there is no end in sight for the Tigers.  They, like Kentucky, have to play Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina every single year.  And now Vandy is solid and Butch Jones will likely make Tennessee decent again.  And of course we know what Mark Stoops has brewing in Lexington.

But, where it really is showing is in recruiting.  For their first SEC class, Missouri ranked 13th out of 14 in the conference, 36th in the nation.  For the Class of 2014, Missouri is currently 13th out of 14 in the conference and 49th in the nation.  Those kinds of classes will get you beat and get you beat BAD in the Southeastern Conference.  According to, Missouri does not have a single 4-star committment as of right now.  Kentucky already has FIVE.  Missouri is not getting it done on the field and they are not getting it done on the recruiting trail.  That used to be what we said about Vanderbilt, but I think it’s all about Missouri now.

It used to be a loss to Vanderbilt was an embarrassment.  They were the one SEC team UK fans expected to beat every year.  That is no longer the case.  UK should still beat Vanderbilt often, but it should not be a foregone conclusion.  We should now shift our attention to Missouri, the new whipping boy of the SEC.  (Once UK gets out of the cellar)

Article written by Bryan the Intern

11 Comments for BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Is Missouri poised to be the next Vanderbilt

  1. hmmm
    9:09 am July 17, 2013 Permalink

    I don’t think our football team can/should be expected to beat anyone year in and year out..

  2. asdf
    9:09 am July 17, 2013 Permalink

    As we improve, Missouri will be the new us. Vandy will make it’s inevitable return to reality in another year, and then Mizzou and Vandy will battle it out for the cellar for the next decade.

  3. BTIsGAy
    9:31 am July 17, 2013 Permalink


  4. She's A Caaawp!
    9:35 am July 17, 2013 Permalink

    Seriously BTI? You write this post as if you’re prepared to accept UK as a team that will just never make it out of the bottom of the SEC, essentially arguing that Vandy is going to continue to be better, and that Missouri could be the new team we as Kentucky fans can hope to beat every year.

    I realize that Stoops hasn’t coached an actual game yet, and even if he does have success it’s possible, even likely that he will move on to a higher profile school when one is in need of a coaching change, but I’m too excited by what Stoops has already done especially in recruiting, in the short amount of time he has been here to accept that.

  5. inlinefor9
    10:04 am July 17, 2013 Permalink

    Overall record vs Vandy is 41-40-4. Don’t imply we are generally superior to Vandy. Should we be? Yes. But we haven’t been over the course of the series. And considering they’ll probably win this year, we’re going to have an exactly equal record vs Vandy.

    But it is nice having Mizzou in the conference, they’re a team we can look at nearly every season and think we should or can beat them. In the same mold as Vandy and Miss St.

  6. Wow
    11:24 am July 17, 2013 Permalink

    Riveting info there Bryan. Way to set those standards high.

  7. hahaha
    12:03 pm July 17, 2013 Permalink

    You guys are so desperate…

    Only in Kentucky does a win/loss percentage near .500 equal “we are a superior program”. Have heard the same argument repeatedly stated with Mississippi State and now with Vanderbilt.

  8. Fayct Check
    12:12 pm July 17, 2013 Permalink

    #7 If we’re desperate then what does that make you? If your not a fan of UK athletics but you’re on this site then you need to get a life seriously.

  9. KyWampusCat
    1:29 pm July 17, 2013 Permalink

    If Kentucky intends to get better and Vandy stays good and UT swings upward again, someone must get squeezed out. Missouri makes the most sense to be the loser in all this. Lets hope

  10. Dr. Funke
    2:54 pm July 17, 2013 Permalink

    Mizzou belongs in the Western division. At least then they can dominate in basketball. Auburn should move to the east and keep the Bama/Auburn rivalry as their western annual opponent. Right now it will be tough for Mizzou to make any inroads in football. They only beat us last year if I’m not mistaken, and we were dreadful.

  11. Auburn will never be moved East
    4:11 pm July 17, 2013 Permalink

    Doing so requires the SEC to dump one of the yearly traditional rivalry games as Alabama would not be able to play Auburn and Tennessee.