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BTI Rants and Ramblings: I want UL on the football schedule, will they remain there?

I don’t know about you all, but I love having Louisville on the football schedule every year.  For 2 reasons.  First, I think a big thing that makes college sports incredibly interesting is rivalries.  Yes, you might have a Yankees-Red Sox or Lakers-Celtics, but those rivalries don’t usually encompass entire states with the fury and passion of college rivalries.  The in-state rivalry that exists between UK and UL is fairly unique for SEC schools too.  Auburn-Alabama, Ole Miss-Mississippi St, and Tennessee-Vanderbilt all are within the conference.  Arkansas and LSU don’t have an in-state rival.  And Texas A&M ended it’s rivalry with Texas.  Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, and Kentucky are the only SEC schools that get the experience of taking on their in-state, non-conference rival every year.  I love it.

Secondly, it is the one and only shot, and has been this way since the mid-1990’s, that Kentucky has a chance to make a mark in the non-conference.  I wish they would add another BCS team to the schedule each year, but I understand the reasoning why you don’t.  The SEC schedule is tough enough, and you want the revenue from an additional home game.  But that is an argument for another day.  For now, we have Louisville.  Certainly they have had down years where even that game means very little.  But more often than not, UL has at least a decent team and gives UK an early season chance to make some noise.

But, it pains me to say, but the days with UL on the schedule may be numbered in the near future.  First, take a look at each of the SEC schools and their games with BCS non-conference opponents this year.

Georgia: at Clemson, Georgia Tech
South Carolina: North Carolina, Clemson

Alabama: Virginia Tech (neutral)
LSU: TCU (neutral)
Ole Miss: at Texas
Arkansas: at Rutgers
Auburn: Washington State
Mississippi State: Oklahoma St. (neutral)
Florida: at Miami, Florida St
Tennessee: at Oregon
Vanderbilt: Wake Forest
Missouri: at Indiana
Kentucky: Louisville

Texas A&M: NONE

The only other BCS schools to play no other BCS non-conference opponents are Minnesota, Baylor, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Kansas, Duke, Oregon State, Arizona, and Colorado.

Now, what do most of those teams without a BCS non-conference opponent have in common?  Well, 7 of those 9 schools play in either the Big 12 or the Pac 12.  Duke and Minnesota are just chicken.  So, why is this important?  Because the Big 12 and Pac 12 are the only 2 BCS conference to have 9-game conference schedules.  And trust me, as those 9-game conference schedules continue in those 2 leagues, look for more teams to drop off scheduling non-conference BCS opponents.

Now, why does this concern UK-UL?  Because of one man: Mike Slive.  OK, maybe 2 men: Slive and Nick Saban.  Reports are that Slive wants the 9-game schedule, but in a vote of SEC coaches, it came out 13-1 against, with Saban being the 1.  Well, if the college sports were a democracy, then this would be a non-issue.  SEC coaches clearly want to keep the schedule at 8-games, and it has already been confirmed the schedule will remain the same for 2014 and 2015.  But the problem is, the coaches don’t make those decisions. 

Take the year 2011.  SEC coaches wanted to keep the per year scholarship cap at 28.  Mike Slive did not.  After meeting with some school presidents, the cap was moved to 25.  Mike Slive will make a 9-game schedule happen if he wants a 9-game schedule to happen.

At least for the next 3 years, Louisville is safe on the schedule.  After that, the odds get much more dicey.  At least for me, even if the conference moves to 9 games, I hope Louisville stays on it.  What is your take?  Keep the schedule more difficult with Louisville, or bounce them to soften it up should the league move to 9 games?

Article written by Bryan the Intern

45 Comments for BTI Rants and Ramblings: I want UL on the football schedule, will they remain there?



  1. ScottDrew'sFranklin
    9:05 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Shut up BTI



  2. RICK
    9:12 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    I’m not sure what your talking about, the cards only have a good team maybe every 8 to 10 years. A win over the cards this year would be nice but most years it means nothing to anyone but us.



  3. BPM
    9:14 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Keep UL and move the game to the last week of the season.



  4. Bilbo
    9:19 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    everyone thinks UK will take ul off the schedule but UK probably will…they are actually going to be playing on a real conference soon…they will need all the free winds they can get



  5. Chicago
    9:21 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    time to cut ties with UL and let UK worry about kentucky. UK has gained nothing playing up the past decade while ul gained everything by playing us.

    Outisde of kentucky no one gives a shit about Louisville.



  6. dshwildcats
    9:22 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Bryan,

    I agree with you on both counts, brother! I want to keep Louisville on the schedule; but, I also think Kentucky will eventually drop them when the SEC goes to a 9 game conference schedule.

    Playing Louisville gives you a game against a quality non-conference opponent. A win against them only helps your SOS. A loss against them does not hurt you that much in the long run.

    Also, the rivalry gives the fans something to look forward to during the summer months, especially when the game is the first game. At some point, if Louisville were to stay on the schedule, I would like to see Kentucky move it back to the first game when it’s played in Lexington. If you can’t be ready to play a team after an entire off season, having two games under your belt isn’t going to help much.

    Finally, if Kentucky does drop them, no matter what the reason is, we will never hear the end of it from their fans! Their fans have claimed for several years now that all of the “big boys” in college football, especially SEC schools, are afraid to play them. Although Kentucky can’t be considered one of the “big boys”, dropping them would just lead to more chest thumpin’ on the part of an extremely overconfident fan base.

    Keep ’em on the schedule, brother!



  7. BigBlueBrock
    9:26 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    If the SEC moves to nine games, then Louisville has to go. I actually think we should remove Louisville from the schedule as a permanent rival in favor of a rotating BCS opponent regardless of the SEC slate.



  8. dshwildcats
    9:30 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Bilbo,

    Good point about Louisville changing conferences, brother! As I’ve told my UofL friends, the Cards are about to get a little taste of what Kentucky has dealt with for the past 60-70+ years. Although the ACC is not the SEC when it comes to football, Louisville is finally going to see what it’s like to face multiple big name opponents in a season (i.e. FSU, Clemson, VA Tech, Miami, ND, etc.) They won’t be able to take all those conference wins for granted like they’ve done for years in the Big East and C-USA.



  9. FurdTurgason
    9:33 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    It’s one thing to beat a deflated Florida team in a bowl game. It’s another to play teams vying for bowl games week after week. U of L is about to find out what an eight win ceiling feels like. I say we play them the last game of the year. Play someone like Indiana or Western early.



  10. inlinefor9
    9:35 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    I understand the argument, but I really disagree with the logic. It seems like the basic premise is you think UofL might be bumped if the SEC goes to 9 games. Mike Slive wants 9, and you suggest he wants 9. But if Slive eventually gets things his way anyway, you also have to mention the fact that Slive wants each SEC school to have a non-con BCS opponent. A premiere non-con opponent. So while we might want to drop UofL after the SEC goes to 9 games, Slive and the SEC will push UK to keep UofL.

    I don’t see this game going anywhere any time soon.



  11. Merlin's
    9:36 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    We must keep them on the schedule. Winnable game against a program that has won two BCS games recently, will be a quality ACC team starting next year, draws serious interest from the fans almost year round, and if we remove the game we will NEVER hear the end of it. If we have to drop it though perhaps we could play then every other year or every two years



  12. inlinefor9
    9:37 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    #4 & #8 unfortunately I believe UofL will play a weaker ACC schedule than they could have. Might be wrong but I don’t think they’ll have to play most of the top teams in the ACC on a regular basis. Not 100% on that, but think they kind of ended up on the easier side of the ACC.



  13. Stoops
    9:38 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    In 3 years our football program will be the Alabama of now and the dirty birds down the road will have no choice but to drop us from their schedule as the find any way they can to get wins in the ACC. Don’t worry BBN. Our time is coming!



  14. James
    9:43 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Cut ’em loose. Sick of Louisville and their idiot fans. The less we have to deal with those degenerates the better.



  15. Seriously?!
    9:44 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    @13, “In 3 years our football program will be the Alabama of now”…

    You, sir, have slipped beyond delusion and into sheer madness.



  16. Strong Schedule
    9:44 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    I’d rather play good teams and not win. Keep the schedule strong, no one wants to watch us play 5th year high school teams.



  17. Stoops
    9:52 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    @15 Sorry. I was supposed to keep those comments to myself. I’ve been playing Yahtzee 24/7 for about the last month or so. I think I’m losing my mind.



  18. KellyB
    9:52 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Gotta keep UofL. It is the most fun tailgate day and the passion between the two team fanbases is too exciting not to.



  19. Real UK Fan
    9:56 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    ul does not deserve the honor of being on UK’s schedule.



  20. The rest of the SEC
    10:02 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    The argument that you all want Louisville off the schedule just cause you don’t want anything to do with them is completely hilarious. You do gain something from beating them because every year they have a better team than you so it’s going to be a quality win against an ACC team. They are by far the best football program in your state right now and you all supposedly have a big rivalry so if you want to be “big brother”, step up and win some damn games against them and then maybe you’ll be on track to beating Florida some time in the next few decades.



  21. #20
    10:15 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    The rest of the SEC? Ok, Louisville fan, as I recall Kentucky was stomping UofL before we got Joker’d. You have won the last two games, great, good for you. The truth is Kentucky beats Louisville more often than your miniscule brain realizes.

    And you know why we don’t want to play you? It has nothing to do with your actual football team, it has everything to do with dummies like yourself that like to come and talk nonsense on a UK site.

    I banish you back to the ghetto.



  22. Kampaign
    10:21 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    You have to keep Louisville if we are going to be honest about UK Football. We only care about football as something to do until basketball starts. It’s all for our entertainment, it’s not about wins. I’d much rather get pumped up about a good coming to town than I would see us beat a terrible team. Loss to Florida > win against FAMU. We’ll lose most of the time but let’s keep Louisville because as soon as Big Blue Madness hits, most of BBN will not care anymore.



  23. kramer
    10:31 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    I want to keep UL, however its quite possible with them moving to the ACC, they may want to drop UK. UL plays maybe 1 or 2 teams each year regular season that are talent wise, as good or slightly better than themselves. ACC schedule will be an awakening for them, no more schedule filled cupcakes, they may drop UK before we drop them.



  24. UKBlue1!
    10:32 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    The ACC will move to a 9 game schedule before the SEC. Every 3 years the teams in the league will play ND. UK needs to let UL make the move to back out first. I think the SEC will be the last conference to go to 9 games.



  25. Hollahollaholla
    10:44 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Since they more often than not beat us, yeah, I would say drop them. Missing out on bowls is no fun.



  26. don
    11:07 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Get rid of them asap..To the writer of the article,you have to be kidding…



  27. Bill
    11:08 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    #12 Louisville will be playing, Starting in 2014, Florida State, Clemson, NC State, Wake Forest, Syracuse, and Boston College every year. With a rotation of Miami, Notre dame, Virginia, North Carolina, duke, etc.



  28. robuk
    11:09 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    not much of a rivalry when you get your arse handed to you every year.



  29. Bill
    11:14 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    23. While I do agree that they will have a little bit of a wake up call moving into the ACC I don’t think it’ll be as steep as you’re thinking. I think we thought the same thing about them moving into the Big East from CUSA and it didn’t take them anytime at all to be the class of the league in all sports. Their facilities and coaches are really nice and so they can theoretically move to any conference and be in the thick of things. Also strong has been recruiting Florida talent long enough to have an impact for many years. I’d say they’ll be in the top 5 of the league upon entry. Now if they moved into the SEC they would be dead last or at least at the bottom with us



  30. gobgblu37
    11:43 am July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Some people love to bitch. I remember when we use to play IU every year and people bitched because it was boring and added nothing to our SOS, so we added an ever softer cupcake. Now those same people bitch because our non conference is so soft. Now lets get rid of the dirty birds the only real rival we currently have, some people love to bitch. Fudge the Bitchers, keep the birds on the schedule. GBB!!!



  31. Will Hill
    12:04 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Look, dropping UL has nothing to do with strength of schedule. It’s all about home games. Playing UL is a home-home series, so we have to go there every other year. If we schedule all MAC, Sun Belt, and I-AA opponents, they come to Lexington without a return trip, or if we do a return trip it’s one out of a 4 game series. Barhardt doesn’t care if we win or lose . . . it’s all about money.



  32. dshwildcats
    12:23 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Hollahollaholla,

    “Since they more often than not beat us, yeah, I would say drop them. Missing out on bowls is no fun.”

    There seems to be this misconception, especially among Card fans, that the rivalry has been totally one-sided. Since the modern day series started in 1994, Louisville has an 11-8 lead in the series. In 19 games, Louisville has won 3 more than Kentucky. I would hardly call that dominating your rival. And, you have to take into consideration that the NCAA probation caused by the transgressions of Mumme and Bassett helped Louisville’s program to surge ahead in the first half of the 2000s.

    Their fans will tell you that they’re one of the best college football programs in the country. Heck, their own AD proclaimed that the Louisville job was a “top ten job” in college football. So, as great and prominent as their program has been over the past 15-20 years (according to a majority of their fans), they only hold a 3 game lead over a program that they tell us absolutely “sucks”! Now, let’s say Mark Stoops and his staff can coach just half as good as they recruit. We will be giving Louisville all they want every year and a little more!

    A lot of people are wanting to suddenly anoint Louisville, and Coach Strong, as this “elite” program because they upset the Gators in the Sugar Bowl. But, let’s not forget how ordinary Louisville looked all season last year. They got absolutely smashed by Syracuse; and, they lost to a bad UConn team at home. That’s not to mention all of the close calls they had against some very bad teams. And coming into last season, Coach Strong’s record was a very “pedestrian” 14-12. Nothing that’s going to put fear into the hearts of Saban, Meyer or Miles!

    I don’t believe our program is as far behind Louisville’s as many people believe. Let’s see how they do against us if we are putting a solid team on the field year in and year out.



  33. CATS!!!
    12:35 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    FFFFFF loserville & everything about them… That is all.



  34. Dude
    12:44 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    I say keep Louisville and add Cincinnati to the schedule, with the recruiting in Ohio the way it’s going maybe playing a game against a team from the state would help even more for the players to see our program. Other option might be Indiana.



  35. Blue dude
    1:21 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    I’d say keep UL on. At least for the first couple years. For now the rivalry is great and we might actually get some opportunities to deliver some pay back in the near future. I’m very excited about what Stoops and his crew are doing… look at the upcoming recruiting classes and rankings. However we are in a tough conference and I believe to see the turn around results it’s going to take some time… so for now i say keep them on until Stoops believes we have pieced togther and developed championship talent. Which may or may not ever happen… i’m a believer!



  36. Puhleeze
    1:33 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    @32 – you give UK a pass on bad years but conveniently fail to include the Louisville years under Kragthorpe. Good to see you peddle your crap in other places besides the regular haunts, DSH. I know who you are.



  37. rainman
    1:59 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    DROP”EM! We never should have started playing in the first place!
    I know they won’t admit to it, but the series is a huge part of why they’re
    having the success they are, right now!
    Someone answer this, why is it important to us that LOSERVILLE should
    have a strong program? NONE, that I can think of!



  38. rainman
    2:00 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    33, I couldn’t agree more!



  39. 2020
    3:14 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    As usual, BTI’s perspective is waaaay off. The question isn’t “Should we keep UL on the schedule?” The right question is “How long before UL wants to drop us from their schedule?”



  40. Biglaw Dawgin'
    4:45 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Seriously? We have to keep Louisville. Good program, and a fun in-state rivalry. Also, people actually show up to that game. Who wants to watch UK play teams like Kent State?



  41. Tampa Satchel
    5:25 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Why don’t we table the issue until the SEC announces a switch to a nine game schedule? Everything could be different and all this what-ifing would be for naught.



  42. Stupes
    5:31 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    For as long as I can remember the cats have had two chances for a successful season, beat louisville or go 6-6 and make a bowl. Since we all know the SEC is far and away the best football league to ever be played (the 72 dolphins would go .500 at best) the cats will probably never win another SEC game. This leaves our only chance for success at beating loserville. Keep those dirty birds on the schedule!



  43. dshwildcats
    8:18 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Puhleeze (aka, SCORP!!)

    Kragthorpe was only at Louisville for 3 years, brother! Hard to compare the damage done by Krags in 3 years to the sanctions handed down by the NCAA to the Kentucky Football program.

    Glad to see you’re worried about what the BBN is doing, brother! I thought Kentucky was so bad in football that you Card fans didn’t give us a second thought!

    What’s a matter?? Not enough patting yourself on the back going on over at the Card Chronicle?? Lol!!!



  44. dshwildcats
    8:45 pm July 3, 2013 Permalink

    Hey Puhlee….I mean SCORP, why don’t you explain to the Kentucky fans on here how such an “elite” college football program like “The ‘Ville” can only lead a perennial “bottom dweller” like UK by 3 games in the last 19 years. And don’t give us that worn out Kragthorpe excuse, brother! Kentucky fans can play the “Bill Curry/Joker Phillips” card, on top of the NCAA probation.



  45. Puhleeze
    12:42 pm July 4, 2013 Permalink

    Not SCORP. Someone else who has owned you on multiple sites.

    And worn out excuses? That’s all UK fans have in football. You’re hilarious! 🙂