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Barnhart Speaks Publicly on Coaching Search

Some fans of Kentucky Football moaned and groaned when Mitch announced the firing of Joker via letter on He still has yet to address the media since the November 4th letter, but today he took some time to tweet about UK football. I guess it’s better than nothing, but I still can’t get no satisfaction until the season is over and a new coach is hired.



Article written by Nick Roush

"Look upon the doughnut, and not upon the hole." @RoushKSR

101 Comments for Barnhart Speaks Publicly on Coaching Search

  1. Jake
    3:26 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink


  2. burger
    3:28 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    That’s the problem right there.

    They are still searching… when the only 5 star coach who wants the job is waiting for the call.

    Name another coach who’s been to the Sugar, Orange, and Cotton bowl in the past 6 years?

    F You Barnfart!

    3:28 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    So basically he said nothing……I didn’t expect him to, but would definitely like to have a coach hired within the next week. Tomorrow is two weeks from when Joker was canned…..I really hope he has been in serious contact with a few of the candidates.

    3:31 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    2 – Name a coach who was gift wrapped two great programs by his predecessor and then the team had a losing record the year after he left…..answer….Bobby Petrino.

    Its pretty bad when a program is better the year before you get there than the year after you leave.

  5. BobbyPetrino
    3:33 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Hire me Mitch!!

    3:34 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    2 – Petrino inherited UL and Arkansas fresh off multiple bowl appearances and in both cases UL and Arkansas had won 10 games in the two years before he got there. The year after he left they were both awful.

    FAR FROM A HOME RUN HIRE…..even if Petrino’s character was great, he hasn’t proven to be a good leader of the football program.

  7. here ya go
    3:37 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    riddle me this what happened to atlanta when petrino was there.. then he bailed mid season.. and what happened to them after he left.#passonpetrino

  8. No sucker no more
    3:41 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Petrino had UL one game away from the natl title game…. UL! Name me one coach UK could hire who could do that.

    3:48 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    If you take the average Rivals team ranking of Bobby Petrino’s recruiting classes at UL from 2003-2006, you end up at 55.5. If you take the average Rivals team ranking of Rich Brooks’s recruiting classes from 2003-2006, you end up at 55. Basically even….but technically Brooks outrecruited Petrino.

    At Arkansas, if you take Houston Nutt’s team ranking of his final four classes, Nutt averaged 27.5 in the country at Arkansas. If you take the team ranking of Petrino’s four classes at Arkansas, he was 31.5. So, Nutt recruited better than Petrino did too…..i thought Petrino was supposed to be a great recruiter???

    3:50 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    8 – He was also gift wrapped Brian Brohm and inherited a very successful program. Petrino has never replaced a college coach that was fired. He has also never coached a team coming off a losing season.

  11. dboone
    3:50 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    So tweeting soundbites means “speaking publicly?” These two tweets are so benign that an intern could easily have made them. This is one of the reasons why no one except athletic department fanboys like Mitch.

  12. yep
    3:52 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    They aren’t going to get Petrino, heard he is looking at Butch Jones.

  13. burger
    3:52 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Did Petrino ever have any NCAA violations? No
    Have Petrino teams ever not the NCAA academic requirements? No
    Has Petrino ever been convicted of doing anything illegal that would make our program look bad? No
    Has Petrino ever been accused or found to have abused players? No

    How long has he been coaching again? Assistant Coach (20 Years), Head Coach (9 Years)

    So what in the hell has he done? Win

    Year … Team ….. Overall … Conf …. Standing … Bowl … Ranks: — Coaches — AP°
    Louisville Cardinals

    2003 .. Louisville ….. 9—4 …… 5—3 ….. T—3rd … L GMAC
    2004 .. Louisville ….. 11—1 ….. 8—0 ….. 1st ….. W Liberty ………… 7 ……. 6
    2005 .. Louisville ….. 9—3 …… 5—2 ….. 2nd ….. L Gator ………….. 20 ….. 19
    2006 .. Louisville ….. 12—1 ….. 6—1 ….. 1st ….. W Orange …………. 6 ……. 5
    Louisville Totals: ….. 41—9 ….. 24—6


    Arkansas Razorbacks
    2008 .. Arkansas ….. 5—7 …….. 2—6 ….. T—4th
    2009 .. Arkansas ….. 8—5 …….. 3—5 ….. T-4th … W Liberty
    2010 .. Arkansas ….. 10—3 ……. 6—2 ….. T—2nd … L Sugar …………. 12 …… 12
    2011 .. Arkansas ….. 11—2 ……. 6—2 ….. 3rd ….. W Cotton …………. 5 …… 5
    Arkansas Totals: ….. 34—17 …… 17—15

    If anyone wants to say that Petrino has baggage then I’d love for them to show me how that word “baggage” compares to when Barnhart hired Calipari. Are we even using the same word?

    Rick Pitino has baggage. He’s paid for abortions against his own religion. He’s slept with his own staff’s wife. He’s had NCAA violations (at Hawaii).

    Billy Gillispie has baggage. Player abuse at multiple schools, known drunk, DUI’s. Running programs into the dirt (losses to Garner Webb at Rupp while at UK).

    Bobby Petrino? You simply can’t use the word baggage here folks. That word doesn’t describe the same experiences these coaches have had.

    If you have to use the word then it can’t be pluralized. He has 1 bag.

    I’m sure Mitch has a bag. a Douchebag.

    3:56 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Why does every UK fan who wants Petrino think he is the …….ONLY SAVIOR….of the program? Personally, I think its because he beat UK every year he was coach at UL and Arkansas.

  15. burger
    3:59 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #14 – SEC MANIAC – No one on Barnhart’s list can put up numbers like show in my post #13.

    NONE! Not even close!

    You and Barnhart are looking at 3 star hires. Petrino is 5 star.

    3:59 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    13 – I’m not even talking about baggage…..Petrino can’t recruit and he did not improve UL or Arkansas in his tenure. Look at what John L and Houston Nutt did at UL and Arkansas. They both won. They both went to bowl games year in and year out. They both had 10 win seasons in the couple years before Petrino took the job. He has NEVER been tasked with taking over a bad job. Hes always been setup for success.

  17. Shawn
    4:01 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    14. UK beat him ay Arkansas. Do you know anything about Petrino. You’ve been wrong on every post so far. You look pretty stupid.

  18. listentome
    4:04 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    21-20, UK beat Ark at home a few years back. #14 must have been one of those fans who left the stadium before it was over.

  19. Truth
    4:06 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Petrino if you want to win. If you want to be back in thid position in a few years. Hires someone else. I actually prefer the later, because that means Barnfart will be packing his bags as well. Proven winner NO BRAINER!!!

  20. Hal
    4:06 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    13-petrino made made arkansas admin susceptible to numerous lawsuits. many of which were settled before lawsuits came about. and, petrino lied to the AD and president even after getting caught making the situation worse.
    and petrino may want the UK job. but if anyone really thinks he wants the UK job over auburn or UT, or that he’s not simply using UK as a pawn is a moron.
    try to use some common sense here.

  21. Truth
    4:07 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    18) his spanked our ass while at UL and if we would have played him again at ARK. he would have done the same. Hell John L. could have beat us by 70 this year.

  22. burger
    4:09 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Petrino – 8 Years as a Head Coach…

    1 – 12 Win Season
    2 – 11 Win Seasons
    1 – 10 Win Season
    2 – 9 Win Seasons

    1 – 8 Win Season

    6 of 8 Seasons Above 8 Wins.

    I’d like Mitch Barnhart to answer these 2 question…

    When was the last time UK had a season above 8 wins?
    How many seasons has UK had where they had more than 8 wins in the past 100 years?

  23. Chet Steadman Poked Henry's Mom
    4:11 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    You will se tonight that #Packcommonwealth movement will be unsuccessful. Everyone is tired of Mitch Barnharts mediocrity. Also his train wreck coaching searches. Hire a proven winner and the fans will be back. Hire a middle of the pack coach, you will have more of the same.

  24. No sucker no more
    4:12 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Do you people understand that we are the WORST team in the SEC? We are the laughingstock, the doormat, the automatic W on everybodys schedule. Do you really think they we are too good to hire Petrino?

  25. teamturmoil
    4:13 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    22 – Gift wrapped success though….the teams he took over had those kind of seasons before he got there.

    Petrino could win here if another coach did all the work for him.

  26. BigBlue
    4:13 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Barnhart should keep quiet until the new coach is announced. I doubt anything he would say at this point could help put more people in the seats. It will be interesting to see what this search yields. At this point I really have no clue about who they are considering…

  27. teamturmoil
    4:14 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    22 – He’s not a program builder. Its called “status quo” success. If you want more of the same, Petrino is your man.

  28. Punter U
    4:16 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    T A&M just had eighth game in a row with a score on opening drive. #HireKliffKingsbury

    Also, he beat Sonny Dykes’ team.

  29. teamturmoil
    4:16 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    The only thing Petrino has proven is that he can take a successful program and destroy it. He took over 2 successful programs and the year after he left, both programs were terrble.

  30. burger
    4:20 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    It’s been 28 years since UK has won more than 8 games in a season.

    1904 … 9-1 …. (Schacht)
    1907 … 9-1-1 .. (Guyn)
    1909 … 9-1 …. (Sweetland)
    1949 … 9-3 …. (Bryant)
    1950 .. 11-1 …. (Bryant)
    1976 … 9-3 …. (Curci)
    1977 … 10-1 … (Curci)
    1984 … 9-3 … (Claiborne)

    During the time that people feel is relevant in UK football (since 1949 – Considering Bryant was coaching at UK then)…

    UK has won more than 8 games 5 times.

    Bobby Petrino has won more than 8 games 6 times since 2004.

  31. teamturmoil
    4:20 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    17 – No name calling Shawn….do some HW yourself and look up the stats…you will be amazed at how overrated Petrino really is as a HC. If there were sabermetrics for Head Coaches like there are for baseball players than Petrino wouldn’t score nearly as well as some would think.

  32. teamturmoil
    4:20 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    30 – Do you have a strange need to bold all of your posts? Does it make you feel special?

  33. No sucker no more
    4:22 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Funny that you don’t see anyone else nationally saying he’s a bad coach. In fact he’s widely regarded as one of the best coaches in the game.

  34. burger
    4:35 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    “Program destroyer” is the biggest bunch of FUD.

    -If you want to attribute Steve Kragthorpe’s time at UL to Bobby Petrino’s record then you have zero ability to discern head coaching capability. UL went 6-6 in 2007 (the year after Petrino left, then 5-7 the year after that). They lost Michael Bush to the NFL but Brian Brohm stayed.

    6-6 at UK would be respectable. Program destroyer?? At UL his name was Kragthorpe.

    Ask any KY fan who we wish was still coaching UL.

    -John L. Smith had a top 5 Arkansas team that he was handed this year. No one can look at that teams record now and attribute that to Bobby Petrino.
    *Kentucky knows sure and well how good that team was. Remember? The game that was the nail in Jokers coffin? Program Destroyer?? His name is John L. Smith.

    -All you have to do is read Joe B’ Hall’s take on what happened at the Atlanta Falcons to know that the owner wouldn’t back Petrino’s attempts to discipline players. They changed the game on him mid-season. Program destroyer? Were the Atlanta Falcons worth a squirt of piss before Bobby Petrino came to town?

    -None of Petrino’s teams have ever been left in NCAA sanctions, or below NCAA standards academically

    So that’s all 3 teams Petrino’s coached and not 1 did he destroy. It’s so easy to call someone a name and toss around FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, & Doubt) about someone, but when you have just been served facts that completely contradict your claim, you lose credibility and your word isn’t worth the breath it took to speak.

  35. bbob
    4:38 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Jim Tresel. Class act that won’t repeat same mistake twice. Go get him.

  36. teamturmoil
    4:41 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    33 – I agree….I’m just saying that you should look at his results a little closer. He’s not the “slam dunk” or “homerun hire” that he’s being made out to be.

    When you hear comments that he is a great recruiter, its just not true. Houston Nutt had higher ranked recruiting classes at Ark than Petrino did and Brooks’s average recruiting class at UK was better than Petrino’s average class at UL.

    When you hear comments that he built two programs, its just not true. He didn’t take over for fired head coaches or programs coming off losing seasons. He took over for multiple bowl winning head coaches who left on their own accord.

    Were his results good while he was there? Yes! They were great results, but they were primarily with the previous staff’s recruits. He is not a CAL type hire that I’ve seen some of our basketball fans compare him too. Is he a bad hire? No. Would I support him? Yes. Is he a can’t miss coach or a homerun? I wouldn’t say that.

  37. burger
    4:43 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #25 – teamturmoil – Gift wrapped success?

    Petrino team get better the longer he’s there. Just look up at post #13 to see that in the record and level of bowl increase / final season rankings.

    The only thing UL has had to say about their football team in the last 20 years is their Orange bowl game he took them to. I guess that was gift wrapped too.

    I bold things that matter. Part of the reason your name is not bolded.

  38. No sucker no more
    4:46 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #35 You mean he won’t repeat the same mistake three times.

  39. teamturmoil
    4:48 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    34 – Its very easy to spin Petrino’s success when you only judge his record in individual seasons. You have to look at what he was given and what happened the year after he left to see the full picture.

    Do you attribute Tubby’s title to him or Pitino? Tubby was a good coach, but he was gift wrapped the title the same way Petrino has been gift wrapped much of his success. Similarly, I think CBC is awful, but a lot of his failures were due to what Tubby gave him. I don’t think CBC’s first year is quite as awful if he had followed Pitino instead of Tubby.

  40. burger
    4:48 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Bobby Petrino as a head coach knows how to win.

    His team sput points on the board. He’s an offensive specialist (exactly what UK needs to compete in the SEC).

    He has proven that he can consistently assemble a staff that can recruit in multiple conferences (that speaks volumes in and of itself).

    His teams are solid in special teams and the longer he’s there their defenses begin to tighten down.

    He doesn’t make bad play calls, he doesn’t take unnecessary risks but is one of the best strategists in the game. He knows how to win.

  41. burger
    4:49 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #39 – teamturmoil – I’m done talking with you. Your an idiot and anyone reading this can see it.

  42. ChiddarCheddar
    4:54 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Petrino might want to consider a restraining order on Burger. Goodness, that’s some serious man-love.

  43. teamturmoil
    4:55 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Pitino took over a program at UK that was on probation and left for dead. He built us up and left it in a great place. Tubby did the opposite. He maintained a lot of Pitino’s success but his recruiting woes caught up with him and left the program in disarray. That’s why when someone compares a Pitino to a Tubby, its a no brainer as to who the better coach was.

    I personally think that Petrino reminds me a lot of Tubby Smith. Good coach and he had a lot of great seasons that you can bold as much as you want, but Tubby’s UK success was gift wrapped. See what has happened to him at Minnesota. That is probably the kind of success that Petrino would have at UK. A few bright moments, but mostly….status quo.

  44. Donny Berger
    4:56 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Damn #13, Well said! Only if Mitch had a clue, BP is the only coach to turn the piece of sh!t program in to a turd and he would do it quicker than anyone else, but Mitch will [email protected]! this hire up with a retread or another ala Derek Dooley hire

  45. teamturmoil
    4:58 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    41 – Just glad that Mitch is thinking more how I am thinking and less how you are thinking.

  46. kramer
    5:02 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    UL was terrible the year after Petrino left cause they hired Kragthorpe, ask any UL fan they will agree. Petrino may not have had 4/5 star recruits but he had them playing like they were. One talk show host talked about BP one night, saying that when BP left the team didn’t fair well under Krags because BP was strict didn’t let the guys screw around. When Krags came in he had no discipline on the team, which is why some of those players got into trouble.Who knows, all I know is best AVAILABLE coach right now is Petrino, but Mitch won’t even attempt to talk to him.

  47. Lip set
    5:04 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    39) and tubby started failing miserably once he had his own recruits and game plan….where as Petrino’s wins kept climbing with the program and his recruits totally under his control. If uk could have a 10 win season once in my lifetime, I could care less if Petrino left it in shreds for another 50 yrs! How do you suppose a team that wins 10 games could be left in shreads anyway? I imagine you would have a team of winners left over for another coach to just step in and continue…..much like you are accusing Petrino of doing

  48. LETSfinallyWIN
    5:07 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    No way am I going to another game until this administration makes a commitment to win. It would tickle MB to death if we would go throw some more money to one of the worst programs in all of college football. Let’s let MB know that just because Joker is gone, the fans are not automatically back. He may have already marked one of the few people that could turn this program around (8+ wins not just music city) off his search list. Force him into a good hire by letting him know just not any hire will bring the fans back. The lack of fans forced his hands this year and let’s not let him forget it by running back until a top coach gets in here or a competitive team is on the field.

  49. UnpackCommonwealth
    5:07 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Shut up, Mitch. The lack of the fans in the stands is as much as protest against your smarmy ass as it is against losing football.

  50. STEVE!
    5:09 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    I would never brag that I was in agreement with Mitch Barnhart on how to conduct a search for a football coach.

  51. BravoBigBlue
    5:10 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    You can question Petrino’s ethics and morals. Hell, you can drive a truck through them. And if that makes you not want him as the UK head football coach, that’s fine and legitimate. But to question his ability to build a football program into a winner and his high regard in the business as an offensive genius, you are only fooling yourself. That holds no water whatsoever and it makes you look like a complete idiot. Don’t waste everyone else’s valuable time on here. You know nothing about college football and you’re just making shit up.

  52. burger
    5:12 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Hall of Fame Nominee…

    By teamturmoil 11/17/2012 – “Its very easy to spin Petrino’s success when you only judge his record in individual seasons.”

    This might be the single most ignorant thing I’ve read in 2012… and Lane Kiffin has been talking a lot.

  53. LETSfinallyWIN
    5:13 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    43) Houston Nutt was the Arkansas coach when the SEC west was by far the weakest of the two divisions. The majority of the SEC talent was stacked in the east in many of those days. Petrino took Arkansas to another level during a time that the SEC west was stacked. Nutt was run out of Arkansas because he couldn’t get them over the hump (much like Brooks, not great just good enough to stick around for a while). Petrino took them to top 10. Don’t see how you could compare Petrino to Tubby when Tubby went from great to average and Petrino took over average and made them top 10. John L proved how important Petrino was to Arkansas.

  54. Jon
    5:17 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    I’m a longtime Kentucky fan and a very slow learner. I now know that the UK administration is not committed to excellence in football. Their goal is to maximize income out of the football program. Barnhart’s chosen coach will be someone who will energize the fan base to bring back football income. Petrino, who is the only 5 star coach interested in this job, could bring the income and success, but he will not be hired because he might embarrass the university and thus put Barnhart’s job in jeopardy.

  55. burger
    5:23 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #42 – ChiddarCheddar – I happen to give a damn about a football program that my family has supported for the past 85 years.

    It’s in the wrong hands. These fools who either don’t know what they’re talking about (actual facts) or have no clue on how to discern talent.

    From Barnhart to bone heads like teamturmoil. These people just need to be served publicly until they either go back to sitting on the couch or do what’s right for a University that they didn’t even attend (Barnhart).

  56. Bluegrassjimmy
    5:25 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Do not hire someone to BUILD a program for 5 years with 5 and 6 wins!! HIRE BOBBY PETRINO, we want to be in contention for an SEC championship in ONE or TWO years!! HIRE PETRINO!!!! NOW!!!
    The fans will fire you if you screw this hire up, can you say 10,000 fans in OUR 70,000 seat stadium?? HUMMM

  57. Walsh is Gay
    5:27 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    52(and all the countless other posts), Burger, where do I even start?

    Let’s tackle the most basic and glaring hole in what you seem to think is an airtight case – that the transgressions committed by Petrino are just another day in the office. You compare Petrino’s baggage to Cals baggage. Two things – first, Cal has never been caught in any trouble of any kind, and Petrino has. He was caught with his pants around his ankles, and his feet on the pedals, and the helmet off his head, and his secretary wrapped around his waist. He was caught. Cal wasn’t. Enjoy that airtight defense. Second, Cal’s baggage and Petrino’s baggage are of different qualities. Whereas with Cal it was baggage which meant we had to be careful about any and all violations and know the NCAA is watching us, with Petrino we have to be aware that judging by his past he WILL ditch our program at the altar, and that it’s not someone on the outside watching us, but Petrino watching us to see when we’re not looking so he can go kick up some dust in the interim.

    Second – your inability to realize that recruits develop into good players, and those players then go win games. Petrino is a good Xs and Os coach. He’s a good motivator and disciplinarian. He’s also an average recruiter at best, and a homewrecker that will run from the program as soon as anything – ANYTHING – better pops up. He’s one year in and Florida fires Muschamp? GONE. He’s half a season in and the Seahawks come calling? GONE. He loses 2 games in a row and Charlie Strong leaves Louisville? GONE back to Louisville. He will slither his way out of Lexington the split second there is an opportunity – and for all this vaunted success you keep trying to push, the more he gets here, the more quickly he’ll split. If he has ONE season over 8 wins he won’t be back.

    So a single season of 8-9 wins is a best case scenario.

    Here burger let me break it down so you can understand, bulletpoint style:

    *Petrino wins games. Fact.
    *Petrino runs from his program sooner rather than later. Fact.
    *Petrino will ditch UK quickly as him being successful here will INSTANTLY open up doors. FACT.

    *Petrino is an awful, ill-advised bandaid on what needs to be a long-term solution. Fact.

    There’s a reason that Mitch Barnhart is the AD, folks. It’s not because he hates you and wants to make sure you suffer while those apparently worthless programs, where college kids are working hard to creative great athletic teams that are beneath your “OMG REVENUE PROGRAMS ARE MORE IMPORTANT SCREW THOSE OTHER KIDS” attitude, succeed. He’s a VERY good AD. And you’re a VERY good troll. I certainly wrote a lot in response. Eesh.

  58. Dustin
    5:28 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #45 fans like you who are happy with below average is why UK has never had a legit football program. AD’s have always known they can get by with an average program at best

  59. Dustin
    5:31 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #57 is Petrino a sorry excuse for a husband? Yes! However, that has nothing to do with football. He can walk off the field with a hooker under each arm and it is non of your business. He is paid to win games, not what he does in his personal time

  60. ChiddarCheddar
    5:36 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Burger – we all do, or else we wouldn’t be in the comment section of KSR on a beautiful Saturday afternoon. I’ll actually agree with you on one point. The fans claiming Petrino can’t coach are just as blind as those minimizing his baggage.

    I just refuse to believe that there is only one coach that can turn a program around.

    And I refuse to believe that anybody on any message board has a clue who Mitch has or hasn’t talked to, or how the search is going, or who is or isn’t interested in the job. Let the guy do his job and then judge it by actual results. The demands, threats, and character bashing (by some) are getting old.

    In the end, if Petrino (who I have little respect for) is our coach, I’ll support him. If its Dykes or Jones or whoever, I’ll support them too, because I’m a UK football fan.

  61. No sucker no more
    5:37 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #57 If you want a coach to win and stick around, you can’t do any better than Petrino.

    He’s damaged goods and you can structure his contract will a large buyout to keep him here. A huge buyout that NO other coach would ever agree to. Any other coach UK hires is gonna bolt after a 8 win season, but you can lock Bobby down.

  62. Uncle Pappy
    5:42 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Barnhart is an arrogant, self-righteous tool. By allowing him to make this hire, we are setting the program back even further.

  63. 84Cat
    5:42 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Did Barnhart ever apologize for calling the fan base racist? I didn’t think so.

  64. UnpackCommonwealth
    5:42 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #57 Blah, blah, blah. Petrino wins games and packs stadiums. He was going into his fourth year at Arkansas and was going nowhere. MB is a dumpster fire when it comes to hiring anyone but the girls’ tiddlywinks coach. Too bad Kansas didn’t take him off our hands, but they shunned his advances.

  65. ChiddarCheddar
    5:46 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Not sure I agree with the “he will bolt” excuse either. Yes he ditched Louisville, but who’d blame him, it’s freakin Louisville. Atlanta was just a poor decision and easy to see how he would be miserable there, see Steve Spurrier/Redskins. Granted how he left sounds mighty sketchy. And, there’s no evidence that he would have ever left Arkansas had he not been fired.

    Personally I see one legitimate argument for each side. He can win ball games. He’s a scum bag.

  66. ChiddarCheddar
    5:48 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    63) he didn’t, the haters just like to spin it that way. The “agenda” was to get Joker fired. That’s all.

  67. Pappa D Nutts
    5:52 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #57) The current status of the program is in shambles (sh!t) If we hire BP and he turns it around in 3-4 years and we win 8-11 games and brings us out of the toilet then leaves, so be it, If we hire a up and coming coach and he does well, you actually think he is going to stay at UK, if so you are fooling yourself.

  68. G-MILL
    5:53 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Charlie Weis…..may not be the homerun hire but deserves consideration

  69. No sucker no more
    6:01 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Charlie Weis??? Stick to basketball dude.

  70. Donny Berger
    6:03 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #69) LOL

  71. Breal1515
    6:11 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Sonny Dykes and La Tech 3 points at half against Utah St, the man will be a legend for years to come in the SEC.

  72. Walsh is Gay
    6:12 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    59, I tend to agree, but in this case we don’t need someone who is odds-on favored to cause big, ugly trouble and possibly get himself kicked out of the position prematurely. We want a long-term program builder, not a short-term extremist-appeaser.

    61, Petrino has too big an ego to agree to such a contract, or else the program that really wants him will just buy him over with an equal amount. If a really big name becomes open, and really wants Petrino – or an NFL job of really any kind – they will get him. And he will go. Period.

    63, he didn’t apologize because he never said any such thing. This would be a good time to go actually read his quote.

    64, Petrino wins games and then packs his bags to leave. He was riding the coattails of his QB at Arkansas, as he could clearly see that with a unique talent like that he might be onto finally winning the big one. He’s not stupid, nor have I ever claimed that – he knows when he’s in a good position. Having said that, I’m glad to see you throwing our students and the majority of the athletics program under the bus in exchange for 3-5 wins in football a season. Real True Blue passion you have there, never darken the welcome mat to my tailgate, please.

    65, He’s bolted every job he’s been at, or has been thrown out. I don’t care how you spin it, that’s bad. It would be like Cal leaving Memphis halfway through the season when Rose hadn’t been caught, just ditching his team for Kentucky. Not cool.

    67, He won’t be here 3-4 years. If we hire him, win 8 games in 2014 after 3-5 wins in 2013, he bolts and we win 2 games in 2015 onwards just like always, will it be worth the millions, being the laughing stock of the nation for something beyond being bad at football? Is it gonna be worth it when he screws it up again, and puts us in the crapper without accomplishing anything after he jumps to the Titans to coach on Sundays?

  73. No sucker no more
    6:17 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #72 He agreed to that kind of contract at Arkansas, which is why there was never even a whisper of him leaving there. And if somebody does pay a ridiculous buyout it just gives UK a boatload of money to hire another coach.

  74. Tickle
    6:21 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Possibly our future Sonny Dykes and La Tech3 pts at half on Utah St, guy is another [email protected]!ng Dooley

  75. bulldawg
    6:22 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Team turmoil, as many have said already, you are a moron that clearly does not know his a$$ from a hole in the ground. Petrino improved every program WHILE HE WAS THERE. The coaches that came in after him couldn’t get the same or better resuults with the same players shows petrinos lack of coaching ability? Like I said, you are a moron. This proves petrino is a way better coach than any of his successors. Comparing tubby to petrino also goes to show what an idiot u r. Tubby = boring ball an d underachieving with hiighly touted recruits. I’ve never heard anyone say petrino was a great recruiter but his style is exciting and he overachieves with the same type recruits brooks gets. That says he is a hell of a coach that gets the most out of his players. Thank you for making my petrino arguement for the day very easy to win.wether petrino is the right guy, I don’t know, butt your anti-petrino comments have actually been in favor of petrino and u r too stupid to know it. Hilarious.

  76. Walsh is Gay
    6:24 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    73, if you really believe that a buyout was what kept Petrino at his job, I have some real estate on the moon you might be interested in. He was stroking his own ego, which everyone else was stroking as well. He had a better program at Louisville, and he ditched. He had the -REALLY- big money as a head coach at the NFL and ditched. Money is not an item here. His ego is. His ego won’t allow him to build anything more than a one season mediocrity at Kentucky. Point blank. Period.

  77. No sucker no more
    6:31 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #76 First you say he won’t sign a big buyout contract and now it’s a different excuse. Pardon me, your agenda is showing.

  78. Walsh is Gay
    6:38 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    77, pardon me, your jargon and idiotic notion of us-versus-them is showing. It’s not about an agenda that’s anti-Petrino. It’s about getting the right coach. As in, long term. Petrino’s ego won’t hold him to any contract regardless of buyout is what I’m saying. Arkansas is a different program in a different place from Kentucky.

    You BP supporters want him to turn Kentucky into Arkansas, Alabama, and LSU. He won’t, because he can’t. Deal with it.

    If I have an agenda, it’s to support our AD in finding the right coach for the program. Not the right coach for games 1 through 6 in 2013. Not the right coach until he wins 8 games in a season and leaves. The right coach for Kentucky, not the right coach for a Kentucky season of 8 wins once.

  79. BravoBigBlue
    6:44 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    78 – Maybe you’re the queer one. Do you have that real-man love for Barnhart?

  80. No sucker no more
    6:44 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Good luck finding a coach that will come here, win 8 games, and stay.

    You take the best coach that you can get. Petrino is it.

  81. teamturmoil
    6:46 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    52 – Im guessing you didn’t get the brains of your family or you don’t likemath very much if you are judging Petrino’s wins in C-USA and the Big East are relevant to SEC football. I’m sorry, but you can’t look at an individual season in the Big East that is gift wrapped to you and say this is equal to something in the SEC. By your crazy math, a team that goes 12-0 in the Big East and plays no Top-25 teams would somehow be better than a 9-3 SEC team because they have more wins. That’s all your argument has been is wins…..however, you have to look at more than just wins if you want to make a real analysis.

    Yes, Petrino did coach at Arkansas, but Nutt won 8 or more games in 6 of 10 seasons there, and bowl games in 8 of 10. It was a winner already.

    75 – I don’t how to respond to this incoherent and absolutely terrible logic. You basically proved that Petrino wasn’t a good coach in each of your ramblings. He is exactly the same as Tubby Smith to a tee. You just can’t put two and two together, but that’s your problem, not mine.

  82. teamturmoil
    6:48 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    52 – I guess you think UL’s 11 win season this year by Charlie Strong is more impressive than the 10 wins that Les Miles will likely put out at LSU. If you think that SOS and how the wins are accumulated don’t matter than……….wow!!! You probably think that 30 win team from the IVY league in college basketball is better than a 28 win SEC team….because hey they have more wins.

  83. Walsh is Gay
    6:51 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    79, this issue is very divisive, turns people of the same fan base against each other in nasty, vicious ways. See your own comment for more on that.

    I think Mitch is a great guy, is dedicated to Kentucky, and while he’s not the best public speaker, that’s not really his job. Let’s leave it to people like Coach Cal to sell Kentucky, and let the AD stay in the background making sure everything is run well. You know, doing his job.

    Every program is better now than when Barnhart arrived. That includes football. He’s a great AD – no man love necessary.

    And 80, there are plenty of options as good or arguably better than Petrino. I implore you to look at ANY football thread from ANY football post in the last month to dig up viable examples.

    Barnhart isn’t foolish enough to hire Petrino. He also is in charge of his coaching search. All the torch lighting about this issue are just bitter fans bemoaning the fact that their personal choice – where they get to forgive themselves for allowing a terrible human being like Petrino to become our coach because he is chosen and wins a lot – is going to be stonewalled wisely by the AD and that a more mature, intelligent choice will be made. Nothing more than the petulant wails of a child being denied whatever it wants.

  84. Catlogic15
    6:54 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Mitch tweeted to try and sell some tickets. Obviously it hasn’t gone well. To the rest of you, please try to post without using moron, idiot, fool, etc. See if you can, and your point still be valid.

  85. Fecesforbrains
    6:56 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Heres a thought … The athletic dept and director are currently talking to several coaches and narrowing the list there could in fact be several BIG names in that list… Folks behind the scenes and behind closed doors is just that… When they want all you creepers to know what’s going in they will tell you and if they want your opinion they will ask for it.. Matt jones doesnt know Oscar doesn’t know Tom Leech doesn’t know… Get the point when u are about to drop
    A nuclear bomb the army doesn’t call CNN to tell when where and so
    Forth… So till they want us to
    Know we can keep on pissing moaning groaning and guessing ..

  86. burger
    6:57 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #57 – Walsh Is Gay – Your logic isn’t fact, but in your mind it glistens like fairy dust.

    Your logic says that if someone did something in the past they are destined to repeat it. Since Cal has 2 vacated Final Fours… Your clearly saying “UK basketball is destined to be punished the same way every college program Calipari has resided at as a head coach”.

    Any UK fan knows this is not only a poor argument, to pass it off as fact puts you in the same ballpark as teamturmoil – talking about something but with a bent brain.

  87. No sucker no more
    6:59 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    All the anti-Petrino people keep talking about all these coaches who are better, but they never name names. Try listing some. Oh, but just list the ones that UK is capable of hiring.

  88. ohhai
    7:06 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    83. his job is to raise money and build facilities. not a good public speaker…. if you are going to force cal to do his job why not let cal be ad? i know he could hire a better football coach.

  89. Walsh is Gay
    7:13 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    88 I hope you’re a troll, because an AD’s job is primarily to make sure the Athletic Department runs at a high level. That includes facilities and revenues, but primarily it focuses on providing our kids with the best experience possible, for all programs. Cal might make a great AD if he wasn’t a coach, that’s probably true. But to say the only thing an AD does it make money and build buildings is to miss the entire point of college athletics as a whole.

  90. burger
    7:16 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Bobby Petrino has only left 1 program for a greener pasture. That was Louisville (where everywhere is a greener pasture).

    This is the only fact regarding that myth continuing to be spread about Bobby Petrino. When you really look at it for what it is, it just might be the most overblow part of the entire anti-Petrino movement.

    All college coaches look to improve their position to get to a program in an elite conference (and is willing to support it with the dollars required to get the job done).

    To blame Petrino for leaving UL (again, the only place he left for greener pastures… ahm, after staying for 4 years) is like saying John Calipari is a program ditcher for leaving Memphis for UK. Everyone knows Cal needed and deserved that upgrade. Petrino was no different.

  91. Walsh is Gay
    7:24 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Look Nick, I know you disagree with me, but in addition to having several people of the zealotrous PETRINO-OR-BUST mindset trying to bury me by ignoring my points, while also calling me things like “bent brained” and “idiot” and “queer one” and whatever else, you’re going to start moderating out my posts, too? Come on.

    Like I said in my now-removed(for whatever reason) post, there is a big, easily-found list of replacements for Joker that doesn’t include Petrino. Kirby Smart, Gus Malzahn, Willie Taggart leap to mind, but google “Joker replacement UK coach” and you’ll easily find the names, too.

    But if I’m going to be selectively moderated out of the conversation because I disagree with the janitor, this may be it for me on this post. Good grief – I guess having friends in moderating places is better than being right.

  92. ohhai
    7:35 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    no i am not a troll. we have an ad that cant raise private funds for any sports. basketball runs on its own. in fact barney is not allowed to touch it. so what does he do to “provide the best experience possible”? he steals money from the football program and gives it to olympic sports. is that providing the best experience for our football players? why don’t you go ask them? i’m sure they all enjoyed this travesty of a season he brought on by retaining a coach everyone knew should have been fired last year.

    we need an ad with some charisma and vision, not one who hides under his desk from the media and releases open letters to fans.

  93. burger
    7:37 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #91 – Walsh Is Gay – With the unsupported and inaccurately presented points that you’ve presented, I figured you’d just disappear like the others.

    To be unable to make your point without obscenity, name calling, or, some other off color method that triggers the flags of the admins well… that’s all on you.

    Ignorant and bent brain are conditions, they aren’t names. They can be used as names, but I am simply referring to the condition that leaves you unable to present debatable points at the table.

    When you call something a fact, that is future speculation, well… you must go check the dictionary for the meaning of so many words now. Hope it goes well and that your not distracted this time.

  94. Walsh is Gay
    7:44 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    94, You are using underhanded insults and backhanded comments as a vehicle for your slander. Retardation is a condition. Calling you a retard wouldn’t be cool – see how that works? Funny, huh?

    Of course I’m done. I can’t fight trolls AND moderation. Besides, there’s a game on. You know, the whole thing we’re arguing about? No? Didn’t think so.

  95. burger
    7:52 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    #94 – Walsh Is Gay – Again, the basis of your argument against Petrino is he will leave (because he’s known for it).

    That is not a fact, but you called it one multiple times.

    He’s left 1 place, UL.

    Sorry to be the bearer of the news, but you have nothing left to talk about here. Go make up something else.

  96. Indianacat
    8:32 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    All those in the Petrino camp have an inherent belief that he would come to UK. His dad’s comments were out there to get him lined up for a better job like Tennessee or Auburn. UK would only be an option if he wouldn’t be considered for one of those positions. The one thing that I know for sure is that MB is going to take his time on this decision and hire the guy he thinks is right for the job. He can’t afford another bad hire in football. There is simply to much revenue at stake.

  97. teamturmoil
    9:14 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    96 – I agree. I’ve thought the same thing as well. The only reason UK would be appealing to him would be if we paid him a nice salary to coach in the SEC. Other than that, I don’t see why he would come here. I think Petrino wants a place where he can win right away. Thats not UK. Even if the UK job was open and offering the same money when he left the Atlanta Falcons, I don’t think he would have taken the UK job.

  98. teamturmoil
    9:27 pm November 17, 2012 Permalink

    Bottom line – I’ve never said that Petrino wasn’t a good coach. I know he has won everywhere he’s been and at the very least would get us back to where Rich Brooks had us. I just don’t agree that he is a “home run hire” and also think the logic that he won 10 games at UL and Arkansas, so he could win 10 here is very flawed. I think that is apples to oranges because the UK job is VERY DIFFERENT than those places.

    Some UK fans talk about him like getting him would be like getting CAL in basketball. They talk about him like he is the next Bear Bryant, Nick Saban, or Urban Meyer. He’s not any of those guys and his coaching resume isn’t free of holes. He’s not a great recruiter. I always here UK fans complain that we are 11th or 12th in the league in recruiting….(or now 13th-14th), but he never finished near the top of the league in recruiting in even one year at Arkansas. He actually finished just one spot(49th vs. 50th) ahead of Joker nationally in 2010. My point is that hiring him is not hiring CAL or some mythical coaching legend. Its not a home run because the talent level would probably stay the EXACT SAME as it is now. He didn’t even outrecruit Rich Brooks when he was at UL and we were at UK.

    OK, I will concede that he can coach an offense that puts points on the board. I will also concede that I like what he may be able to do with our young QB’s. That said, I still don’t think he’s “THE GUY” for the job, or the “ONLY GUY” for the job. I think there are a lot of interesting candidates that could do the exact same thing here.

  99. Larry
    2:05 am November 18, 2012 Permalink

    98. Your last post just helped to prove the pro Petrino argument. You are saying that given the same amount of talent Petrino is able to succeed at a hire level. Look UK is never going to out recruits the big schools but his resume speaks that he doesn’t need to as long as he has the players for his system. Name me a better candidate? There is a reason why his name pops up nationally for HC more so than any other current candidate.

  100. plowboy
    8:52 am November 18, 2012 Permalink

    #9&14. You forgot one thing. Petrino can outcoach Brooks.

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