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Are You Forgetting Someone Herald Leader?

Sometimes you see something and you can only respond with bewilderment. Such is the case over on the Herald-Leader’s website where they are currently polling readers on who is the best active NCAA Men’s Basketball coach. Let’s take a look at our options here:

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Let’s see you have all the traditional names, seems like a pretty good list at first glance. I just feel like something is missing. Something like a guy who has taken three different schools to final fours. A guy with as many championships as Izzo and Boeheim. A guy who has taken over recruiting and just assembled the greatest class in the history of college basketball. Oh and it just so happens to be the guy who Coaches in the city your newspaper is published.  All that just begs the question, how does John Calipari not get included on this list?

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As of writing the choice of “Someone else” currently holds the top spot. Which I’m assuming is all made of votes for Cal. The third question in the poll is are you male or female so it could all be just made to mine some information about demographics but still how does the Coach that helps line your pockets with newspaper sales not make this list.

You just have to shake your head sometimes. Update: Oscar Combs pointed out the poll on which earned a response from the editor of the H/L:

Pretty funny the poll ended up on the Lexington newspaper. Whoever originally envisioned that poll still should have included Cal simply for what he has accomplished in just four years at UK.

 

 

Article written by Andrew Cassady

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32 Comments for Are You Forgetting Someone Herald Leader?



  1. Chaz
    5:47 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    I would say “amazing”, but for the fact I’ve not been amazed by anything the local birdcage liner manufacturer has contributed for decades.



  2. BaseballCoach
    5:49 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    Simply unbelievable.



  3. JPL
    5:49 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    No they haven’t taken it down. So first they post a jacked up poll, leaving off the one of the last two national champion coaches. They they lie about taking it down. H-Losers.



  4. mudcreekmark
    5:58 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    I bet it was Jerry Tiptons idea. MSN of print.



  5. Catfan14
    5:59 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    Thanks Andrew for the post, I think it’s hilarious how Kentucky can be shunned in it seems like every manner possible. In my opinion Calipari is one of the greatest to ever do it because he pushes himself to do things that haven’t been accomplished before. Now that he’s at Kentucky he’ll def have to win about a hundred more rings to get the respect that he already deserves. This stuff will just make next year all the more enjoyable. They’ve lost any business I would have ever given them national poll or not and my families as well!



  6. mudcreekmark
    6:02 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    4) Well when you go to the final four with 3 different teams and one of the is UMASS then I think you do deserve to be on it. When your teams have went to the Elite Eight ,Final Four and then win a championship in the last four years then yes he deserves to be on the list. One of the jobs of a head coach is to recruit. So when you are the best recruiter in the history of the game, then yes you belong on the list.



  7. Monitor
    6:02 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    #4 & 5. If you can’t spell, don’t pretend you can proofread. Just makes it worse.



  8. Bledsoe's Biceps
    6:08 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    It’s the Herald Leader for cryin out loud. Practically no one reads it anymore. So this is only relevant to the 50 people that do.



  9. Catmedic
    6:16 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    Haters will be your motivators! Cal and cats on top of the college basketball landscape.



  10. Emmett's shame
    6:42 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    Just checked my organization’s credibility index. After consulting with Legal, I realize we may have made a few errors. Sorry about that.



  11. Roland
    6:54 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    the herald leader will lead the newspaper industry out of the dark days…sarcasm



  12. PaperChase
    7:03 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    @ #4, didn’t those nasty Cards lose two years in a row in the first round of the NCAA??? HUH? Might as well not even played! That was LAUGHABLE!!! @12,13 & 15 wearing those chicken buckets on your head in the Yummy Center has smoothered your brain cells. You’re all idiots! @ #18, whether or not two of Cal’s accomplishments were vacated, STILL doesn’t vacate the fact that they went there! UNC should have some vacated, but that won’t happen. If they did, Ol’ Roy wouldn’t be on that list, huh?! How long did it take UofL to win #3? UK won #3 in 1951! SHUT UP!



  13. Jhdowell
    7:08 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    That’s a bullshit answer from the H-L guy. Every other day that poll asks about turning downtown Lexington streets two-way. Doubt that’s of “national” importance.



  14. wabaco
    7:15 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    @ 11: Bob Huggins? Oh that’s supposed to be a 2010 Elite Eight joke, right? Ummm… kinda of ironic UofL got beat by CALifornia in the 1st round. See also: Morehead State 2011.

    @ 13: See above.

    @16: You don’t even have the most titles in your own state.



  15. Sweetdanglindickdaddymolovesays
    7:35 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    You’re just providing them credibility & exposure! Let the LHL die the slow death they so richly deserve!



  16. monkeysbutte
    8:26 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    cal is a great GREAT recruiter of elite talent. What he is not…is one of the top ten basketball minds in the NCAA. He has a good record of developing point guards (most are already elite) and obviously uses the dribble drive offensive system so he has to be able to teach a little but when you compare his coaching chops to what some of the other coaches produce he found to be lacking. Sheesh, Scottie Davenport at Bellarmine is a “better” coaching mind than Cal. Remember when (i think it was CL Brown) tweeted at Bobby Morris that in a timeout huddle Cal was befuddled and had no play to draw up on his dry erase board?? He is a good coach though, otherwise Kentucky wouldnt have pursued him, just not elite



  17. msnthrop
    8:49 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    A coach with two vacated Final Fours will never be considered amongst the best NCAA coaches. Cal will have to win at least two more National Championships, and then 15 years will have to pass to make sure something unpleasant doesn’t become public, and then he might be included in such a poll.



  18. hammer
    8:55 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    Cal is an excellent recruiter but an absolutely pitiful communicator and bench coach. He is one big time choke artist that is covered up by better talent. In other words…he sucks when compared to coaches like Rick…like it or not BBN



  19. theSkinny81
    9:07 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    16, 17, 18 – Bahahahahahahahahaaaaa. Tard fans are hilarious, and utterly pathetic.



  20. earlPburg
    9:15 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    #19 please enlighten the readers here that agreee with 16 and 17…instead of adding ZERO actual commentary or reason



  21. catsfan42
    9:41 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    19. he did take a number 1 recruiting class and went to the NIT…and lost. Even when RickyP went the NIT he didnt have any 5 stars or McD all americans and actually won a game or two. So perhaps it is you that is pathetic



  22. KY Realist
    9:43 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    Cal is a mediocre bench coach. He tells his ready made NBA players to “make a play” during timeouts. If he cioached the uofl talent over the last two years (both of which played top 5ish schedules), no way he does what Rick did with that talent. He had 5 former burger boys in this year’s team, plus Stein. You saw how that worked out. If they are not ready made, he has no answer. It is just the way it is. Cal loses around 12 games with this uofl team. You guys should kiss Uncle Wes on his beanbag everyday for bringing in the talent.



  23. KY Realist
    9:44 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    *Coached



  24. theSkinny81
    10:06 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    Ever heard of Carmelo Travieso, Edgar Padilla, or Tyrone Weeks?

    They were the captains on a Calipari coached UMass team that beat Rick Pitino’s 1996 super team and went to the Final Four with a 35-2 record.

    Calipari would take UMass to the Sweet Sixteen (1992), two Elite Eights (1995-96), and frequent #1 rankings in the AP weekly poll. How many times has Louisville been ranked #1 in the AP poll in history? Wait, what? Firts time was THIS YEAR??? Cal did it numerous times…. at UMass.

    20 – Just read what they wrote. If you’re not completely retarded, you’ll see why my initial comment made so much sense.



  25. Reality Check
    10:12 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    World Wide Wes’s DNA is all over Cow’s back. That is how Cow is able to pretend he can coach.



  26. theSkinny81
    10:18 pm April 27, 2013 Permalink

    Here’s the list of NCAA title coaches, back to 1980, when, according to Louisville fans, basketball was invented.

    Like it or not, mediocre coaches just don’t really win NC’s….

    Rick Pitino
    John Calipari
    Jim Calhoun
    Mike Krzyzewski
    Roy Williams
    Bill Self
    Billy Donovan
    Billy Donovan
    Roy Williams
    Jim Calhoun
    Jim Boeheim
    Gary Williams
    Mike Krzyzewski
    Tom Izzo
    Jim Calhoun
    Tubby Smith
    Lute Olson
    Rick Pitino
    Jim Harrick
    Nolan Richardson
    Dean Smith
    Mike Krzyzewski
    Mike Krzyzewski
    Jerry Tarkanian
    Steve Fisher
    Larry Brown
    Bob Knight
    Denny Crum
    Rollie Massimino
    John Thompson
    Jim Valvano
    Dean Smith
    Bob Knight
    Denny Crum



  27. ColoradoCat
    1:49 am April 28, 2013 Permalink

    I ment go catz.



  28. ColoradoCat
    1:50 am April 28, 2013 Permalink

    Eye ment, goe Cats.



  29. ColoradoCat
    2:11 am April 28, 2013 Permalink

    How do you spell WTF? Are comments often deleted on here?



  30. Unboltedharp
    9:48 am April 28, 2013 Permalink

    You turdinal fans are a hoot. Now that slick has branded himself a loser with that tatto, you probably think he’s the greatest. What a crock! You keep saying Calipari cannot coach, really? A team does not gel and suddenly he cannot coach? At least Calipari is teaching them how to further their careers as opposed to slick rick who only teaches continual fouling. That’s a style Kentucky fans remember, he used it at UK when the really good players were going to other schools; before he won his first championship. Slick is still teaching the same old crap and Calipari has adapted, improved and moved on. When the smoke clears and you loserville’s fans finally understand everything slick does is for his benefit and not the schools, then maybe you’ll understand. Here’s a point to ponder; what has slick done for Louisville outside of the university? In fact, let’s broaden the scope to anywhere outside the university.



  31. bung
    10:28 am April 28, 2013 Permalink

    aint that paper ownership in L.A.?



  32. Berb
    4:52 pm April 28, 2013 Permalink

    30. Maybe nothing but probably more than most because he is a millionare. for instance, when he got his tattoo he wrote a check to an autism charity because the artist refused payment. And what does that have to do with his on court coaching? Nothing, you just can’t get over yourself