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Another curious note from the NCAA

Somehow lost in the contant refreshing of NCAA.org this week was a press release from the NCAA that basketball recruiting was going to get a “makeover” as early as 2012, thanks to some crackdown from the sport’s governing body.  In the release (linked above), USF President Judy Genshaft, who serves as the chair of the NCAA Board of Directors, said that they will target the third parties who can influence prospects as they try to determine a school.  Nothing like starting the tenure off with a nearly impossible mission.  But, it seemed noble enough, I guess.

The reasoning behind the crackdown on recruiting is because that these elite athletes – nearly all of whom will become wealthy beyond a bachelors degree at an exponential clip – should be focused on their college degrees, not their pro careers.  Yes, they actually said that.  In almost those exact words too.  Missouri AD and Leadership Council Mike Alden, take it away:

“We’re not here for the grooming of athletes. We’re here for the grooming of students.”

As Mike DeCourcy pointed out, it’s not only an insane notion to think that these young men are coming to campus to do anything but what every other student does (prepare for their career), the aloofness is a sign of why things go wrong in the NCAA.  In fact, this new regime and “makeover”, according to the Bylaw Blog guy, negates all the potential progress made last year in which coaches and administrators tried to find a happy medium.  Sigh.

But, we look forward to them clearing our guy.  You know, the one who already made it clear he’s focused on being a student-athlete and turned down the pro contracts.  We’ll hang up and listen.

#FreeEnes

Article written by Thomas Beisner

47 Comments for Another curious note from the NCAA



  1. Harley Wells
    11:13 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    Good grief! Free Enes already!



  2. OperationSuck
    11:13 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    FREE ENES!



  3. nlk
    11:14 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    Isn’t it interesting that all this new-found focus on “cleaning up recruiting” comes so swiftly after UK having a coach who is killing it?

    ^adjusts his tin-foil hat



  4. JEREMY
    11:16 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    So does this apply to only UK and everybody else gets a free pass because of some silly off the wall reason!!



  5. mike gilchrist
    11:18 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    The educational system is a racket. Other than sub-prime lending institutions, i have never seen a more corrupt, money making scheme than the cost of a decent education. Coupled with student loans, a now “mandatory” post high school education puts young people in serious debt immediately. I am not saying not to go to college, but they know you now have to to get your resume looked at and charge unreasonable tuition across the board. Of course they are grooming the students to remain in college for absolutely as long as possible. Need that $$$.



  6. Rob Schnieder
    11:20 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    I guess that means I am still witless.



  7. Tim
    11:21 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    National
    Collegiate
    ATHLETIC
    Association

    This governoring body is 100% about athletics, the school itself is about the students. They can say whatever they want to but their several billions of TV money says otherwise. If it were truly about the student, those that participate in athletics would recieve a stipend, divided evenly among all athletes and schools until the NCAA was a non profit group. Forgive me for questioning their honesty. And for the record, since obviously this was meant for Kanter, where was this beautiful reflection when 1 and done Josh Selby was cleared after ending his amateur status by accepting money? How about Sidney? Kanters parents did everything by the book, as they understood the NCAA rules. Kanter is a groomed athlete. He could be already making millions yet he chose to play college. Selby could be making millions but isn’t able to so he has to go to college to be groomed, yet you clear him. Anyone else sensing a backward approach here?



  8. SexnNursinHomes
    11:25 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    6- I was thinkin this has more to do with Tim makin’ my pocket$ Fuller



  9. NeverGone
    11:26 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    The guy claiming KU yesterday is now saying an announcement will come tomorrow on Daniels.
    http://isportsweb.com/2011/01/04/breaking-5-star-sf-deandre-daniels-to-commit-to-kansas/



  10. SexnNursinHomes
    11:27 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    9- apparently ku is out of schollies. Look for $elf to make room.



  11. NeverGone
    11:33 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    I smell Cal working on this one. Is there nothing this man can’t do?



  12. NeverGone
    11:33 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    10) I hate to think what you’re smelling now. lol



  13. Big Blue 66
    11:33 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    So you are studying chemistry……mid term of your freshman year, Dow chemical calls you up and says, you know what, we think you are so talented, that we want you to come work for us right now for $300K/yr. We dont care if you have a degree, we know your talents and think you can grow as a chemist better with us doing it on a day in day out basis. I think the kid foregoes his college and takes the job dont you? Theres no difference between basketball and chemistry, only that Dow chemical never calls you and the NBA does.



  14. Oliver Simmons
    11:33 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    Not
    Consistent
    At
    All



  15. Bluecalizone
    11:39 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    The only way any of this will ever be fixed, is if the one and done rule is abolished. It’s either got to be that a kid can go straight to the NBA or there is a minimum 2 year rule. And yes I know that much of this has to do with the NBA’s Guidelines, butt there is going to have to be a medium somewhere involving the two. This would solve so many problems.



  16. john
    11:39 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    I want Kanter to play as much as everyone but I don’t get the whole “the family did everything right” thing.

    They used the money on unallowable expenses……they didn’t do everything right. Now if true that the money was spent on school (20,000 of it) I think its crap but to say they did everything right isnt really accurate at all.



  17. Hymiet
    11:40 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    13. So true and an excellent point.



  18. Jaws2
    11:42 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    Nice analogy Big Blue 66. Sad as it is, I also don’t think Kanter will ever play for UK.



  19. SexnNursinHomes
    11:42 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    12- if you’re talkin to me. trust me, my fingers got a smell that doesn’t come off. It’s like a perpetual never ending stink that always looms. a mixture of throw-up, 3 yr old unwashed sweaty balls, and ass.



  20. SexnNursinHomes
    11:43 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    13- beautifully said.



  21. Go Cats
    11:45 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    My issue is that if they can claim people like the OSU players didn’t “know” the rules well enough, then a kid who grew up in another country probably could argue he had a hard time keeping up with the rules too. It’s insane to me to think Terrelle Pryor and co. didn’t realize they were breaking rules, it’s just common sense and they knew what they were doing. But if somehow, incredibly highly recruited players at one of the most major programs in the country weren’t up on the rules, I feel like that could be used as an excuse by anyone.



  22. john
    11:50 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    The “didn’t know” excuse just seems so weak. No one should have been able to use that.

    The major problem I got is consistency or lack thereof. You can’t let some pay money back and not others, you can’t let some use the I don’t know excuse but not others. That’s my biggest problem.



  23. JRA
    11:51 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    NCAA, it is all about their bottom line. There is no one to keep the NCAA in check. I think these people need to have someone checking into the skeletons in their closets. Bet this would shed some light on their “bottom line”! Think #7 has a point. Make it non profit and see how it shrinks. Who has the power to do this?



  24. Al's IndiCats
    11:53 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    This is SO B.S…..Really? To make sure a kid gets groomed in the right way if he/she to explore the earnings strengths before they graduate? If that were the case then this is what I would recommend.
    1) If an athlete is good enough to play in the pros right ot of HS, so let them. But with the stipulation no agent can be involved, so if they are not drafted they can and will be able to go to the school of their choice.
    2) If a kid wants to go to a college he/she has to stay the minimum of 2 years, no more one and dones.
    3) If a situation arises like in the Kanter’s limbo, the ruling “HAS” to be made in the off season. As in before the Fall semister enrollment.

    I’ve said all along that because of the NBA, is the sole reason for the one and dones. They made such bad choices in the past aqbout taking a kid right out of HS that it’s cost them millions because of their poor evaluations of kids in HS. Plus to the fact, that if a kid wants to work for the postal service should he have to take a job at a company’s mail room for a couple of years? Of coure not! The NCAA is curtailing their earning power…plain and simple.



  25. Rush3Redux
    11:53 am January 5, 2011 Permalink

    “But, we look forward to them clearing our guy. You know, the one who already made it clear he’s focused on being a student-athlete and turned down the pro contracts. We’ll hang up and listen.”

    Nice. Beisner, you do a very good job of distilling down the logical dissonance present in everything the NCAA is doing these days. Very astute.



  26. Tim
    12:03 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    #16, there was zero “unallowable” expenses. The $20,000 of the $33,000 went to education. It was “allowable”. The NCAA only contested it because the club team didn’t pay it directly, which is what AAU teams do or prep schools. The expense was allowable though. Under appeal, that would be cleared. The only thing really under contention is the $13,000, which is sitting in a bank account never spent. It’s a matter of culture. The NCAA passed a rule allowing players that played on club teams to come to college in the US and play. However, every other country runs things off per diems. Our culture is totally different. So, if their own rule has any merit then the $13,000 should be allowed to be returned to the club team, as the parents are wanting to do or the NCAA real purpose is to only allow foreign players who moved to the US at age 6 to play in the NCAA. But they mention club teams so based on their own rule, Kanter should already be cleared because he did everything by the book as their culture will allow because no club team is going to pay their bills for an intern player directly. Europe, Asia, and Africa doesn’t work that way, only us morons do that.



  27. TJ Taylor
    12:07 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    ..and these are the people educating out youth.



  28. tfordstyle
    12:08 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    btw, enes gets freed in a short while in case you’ve forgotten.
    Jan22 will be his last game behind bars.



  29. TJ Taylor
    12:09 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    “our” that is. (I was educated at a school ran by idiots like this)



  30. Tim
    12:12 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    I think some are missing the point. The NCAA allows club teams to be like our AAU programs. Over the summer, AAU players, especially the better players, get “paid” tens of thousands of dollars, every summer. However, in our culture, the AAU program pays the expenses directly. They buy their food, clothing, schooling, room and board, airline tickets, cab fares, etc…. In the rest of the sane world, it doesn’t work that way. They estimate the travel and expenses for everything, including schooling, and give them money to pay for it their lazy selves. That will never change because it’s a far better system and it’s a system that saves money for the club team, as well as time and effort. So when the NCAA wrote their rule about allowing Club teams to be considered like an AAU program then this should automatically be taken into account, that should be a no brainer starting point. Every expense Kanter reported, w/receipts, to the NCAA were valid, every single one of them. For some reason though, they allowed all of them to be ok, except the schooling part. That is strange because they allowed the airline to be paid directly by Kanters dad but not the schooling? really weird.



  31. john
    12:16 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    26. But that’s not correct. This is from the actual NCAA press release.

    “Kanter received $33,033 more than his expenses for the 2008-09 season”

    To me that means he received 33,000 above and beyond what they should have. And UK never disputed that. Techically they broke a rule by receiving that money. Even tho the 20,000 was for school, it was paid directly to the Kanters causing the issue.

    To me, there never was a question about that. They DID receive money above normal expenses. They did break the rules.

    Thats why the only shot we really have is through appeal…..which looks at the fairness of the rule. There they can say “well 20,000 was for school” and they offered to pay back the other 13,000 and they are overseas so maybe they didn’t know the rule.

    He should be allowed to play. He should have to just pay back the money and then he’ll play. That’s where the unfairness comes into play. You can’t let some pay back but not others.

    But they clearly took more money then allowed.



  32. David Shelton
    12:17 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    Gemshaft is a bull dike that hates Kentucky because they turned her down for a job. She will do all in her power to keep Kanter off the court.



  33. Wildcards
    12:18 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    There will always be exceptions like coaches, AAU coach, Family Friends that will make these new rules meaningless! If the NCAA pushes too hard, someone will end up suing them. Fixing this mess is almost as hard as fixing our country. Great in theory, impossible to implement.



  34. john
    12:24 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    I guess the appeal was going bad but I’m really curious to see what would have came outta this had we not gone back with the “new information” (ie Cam Newton)

    Would the appeals committee suspended him rest of the year but let him play next year? Would they have just ruled same way NCAA did? Who knows I guess.



  35. TJ Taylor
    12:30 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    Money to be made on the nationwide hype already in place and waiting to be cashed in;

    Cam Newton;

    YES – Schools other than the school the student/athlete attends
    YES – Television networks
    YES – Bowl/tournament host
    YES – Conferences
    YES – Over hyped, award offering athletic clubs
    YES – NCAA partners (i.e. souvenir sells)

    The Ohio State Tattoo Five;

    YES – Schools other than the school the student/athlete attends
    YES – Television networks
    YES – Bowl/tournament host
    YES – Conferences
    NO – Over hyped, award offering athletic clubs
    YES – NCAA partners (i.e. souvenir sells)

    Enes Kanter;

    NO – Schools other than the school the student/athlete attends
    Maybe – Television networks
    NO – Bowl/tournament host
    NO – Conferences
    NO – Over hyped, award offering athletic clubs
    Maybe – NCAA partners (i.e. souvenir sells)

    The Vandy kid (Lance Goulbourne);

    NO – Schools other than the school the student/athlete attends
    NO – Television networks
    NO – Bowl/tournament host
    NO – Conferences
    NO – Over hyped, award offering athletic clubs
    NO – NCAA partners (i.e. souvenir sells)

    Not sure there is even any money for Vandy to cash in on with these young man. I haven’t heard, but I suspect there was no rush to get him reinstated within 24 hours for his incredibly minor offense.



  36. BlueJ
    12:31 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    I think the 2 year rule would work. First it gives
    Basketball fans a chance to get to know a player in college, which make it interesting to follow them when they do go pro. Also, what’s wrong with the NBA requiring 2 years before working for them. This could improve the NBA, because players would be more mature when they get there. A lot of jobs require a degree even if there is someone who could do the job better without a degree.



  37. symphonist
    12:35 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    The only way to get rid of the one&done “student” athlete is for the NBA players union to be on board. So far they’ve said “neh”. #13 hit it right on the head – we go to college to prepare for our CAREER in the “real worl”. If someone had approached me before I completed my degree with a job offer paying me exponentially more than I ever dreamed possible, I wouldn’t have even bothered to pack up my stuff! What’s the difference with an athlete? Taking this approach NO ONE can ever blame a kid for leaving for the NBA or NFL before 4 years, and if it were your son or daughter you’d be shoving them out the door if the opportunity arose. I agree that if a kid can get drafted right out of high school then LET HIM/HER play pro ball. But if they go to college, they should have to stay a minimum of 2 years. preferably 3.



  38. TJ Taylor
    12:44 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    Once all the checks are cashed, the NCAA will back up and retro-bomb Cam Newton by throwing him under the table.

    Not that he doesn’t deserve it. But no action will be taken for the NCAA’s own classless manipulation and exploitation.



  39. Catfan96
    12:46 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    This has all the makings of a great sitcom…”The Office: NCAA Version”.



  40. Tim
    12:51 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    #38, they will let him play and if Auburn wins, they will vacate the title. lol Only the NCAA



  41. Coach Cal
    12:51 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    Absoulute power corrupts absoulutly. The NCAA is making BILLIONS off these kids, does anyone really think they give two shits about the “student” athlete?



  42. BlueFin
    1:05 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    Ok, Student Athletes bring in how much for the NCAA? Would you say that is more than just Students? Gimme a break NCAA!



  43. Al's IndiCats
    1:06 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    41) that hammer hit the head of the nail so hard that the table little Ricky’s famous for just broke. Someone already said this if the NCAA was to non-profit it would look like a stampeed running out of that building. I have another rational thought though. The governing body of the NCAA should NOT be run by former ADs, College Presidents, or have any type of affiliation at any university for at least 6 years. Mainly because if the Kanter situation doesn’t go our way, in the back of every UK fan’s mind is going to look at the current President OF the NCAA and think or maybe even know he had something to do with this ruling.



  44. Pimpin aint easy
    1:13 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    NCAA pimps the school
    school pimps the players
    It is as simple as that



  45. Spurious
    1:33 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    The picture above is actually intended to portray 90%, of so, of the people who comment on all things relating to the NCAA.



  46. mjj2k+
    1:39 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    #36- That would be good if colleges were offering a degree in basketball.

    They don’t. And as it stands, the NBA is going to have a really, really hard time explaining why 2 years of college is a real necessity to enter the profession, when right now you have:

    LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant, Amare Stoudemire, and Kevin Dyrant ranked by John Hollinger (just to use something convenient) as 6 of the 10 best players in the NBA. Combined college experience= 1 year. And every single one was in the league before they were 20 years old.

    MAYBE if the player’s union collectively bargained a 2 year rule, it would hold up in court, but even that is questionable.



  47. me
    2:27 pm January 5, 2011 Permalink

    LMAO, Isn’t that ironic. So if they want to keep the athlete’s out of college, cancel the scholarships, make everyone pay, unless they get a valid ACADEMIC scholarship and raise the bar for them to get in. oh yeah, and do away with the cash cow as it is now. IOW, don’t charge for games and make zero dollars off these kids. take no money for tv contracts and such. “NON-PROFIT” is a very misleading statement. I can have a company that does $10B in sales a year and still be “Non-Profit” as long as I don’t show a profit at the end of the tax year. The NCAA and colleges are a joke when it comes to that stuff.