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Almost getting it done in the fourth quarter

There is an old saying, “It’s not how you start, it’s how you finish.” That seems like a good mantra for a football team to live by. Well, unless you surrender 50 points at the start, it won’t matter too much how you finish… but nevertheless, it’s a building block for this Kentucky team. Why? Compared to other SEC schools, the Cats did a decent job at finishing their games.

In the fourth quarter last season, Kentucky scored 41 points, versus their opponents 56, good for a -15 scoring differential. That figure may not sound like something to be proud of standing alone, but stack it up with the rest of the conference and it actually fairs pretty well all things considered.

LSU: 88-20, plus 68
Alabama: 73-13, plus 60
Arkansas: 62-38, plus 24
Georgia: 53-51, plus 2
South Carolina: 55-54, plus 1

Auburn: 41-48, minus 7
Kentucky: 41-56, minus 15
Vanderbilt: 35-51, minus 16
Mississippi State: 36-55, minus 19
Tennessee: 36-55, minus 19
Ole Miss: 20-49, minus 29
Florida: 22-72, minus 50

The common denominator of those five plus-side scoring teams? They all won ten or more games last season. Kentucky was right on that verge of being positive in the final frame had they scored or stopped one more touchdown. If you look, Kentucky actually broke the natural progression of teams which scored more in the fourth versus where they finished ending the season.

Obviously scoring more points than your opponent in the fourth quarter guarantees nothing. For Kentucky and its fans, however, it’s something positive to build off. Hang around with a team long enough and you just might be able to shock somebody by the final whistle. Ask LSU in 2007, Arkansas in 2008, Auburn in 2009, or South Carolina in 2010 if it has worked before.


Article written by Stuart Hammer

B.S. Broadcast Journalism from the University of Kentucky. @StuartHammerKSR

23 Comments for Almost getting it done in the fourth quarter

  1. Chad
    2:03 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    We score more points in the fourth quarter because the other team has already blown us out and they have in their reserves.

  2. ktmiln2
    2:03 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    Like the fans, the team had a habit of showing up in the second half.

  3. ktmiln2
    2:03 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    1. And that.

  4. UK Wildcat
    2:03 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    By the fourth quarter in most of our games, the opposing team already has the game in hand, and they trot out their 2nd and 3rd string.

    So, we ALMOST broke even against the back-ups for other SEC teams.


  5. Don Corleone
    2:08 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    1) said what I would have said.

  6. Solo
    2:16 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    worst post ever…everybody knows UK’s 4th quarter stats are what they are because of what 1) and 4) said….

  7. JMFATZ47
    2:23 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    So we basically almost broke even with teams’ 2nd or 3rd string? I am so hopeful now, thanks man!

  8. Cat fan in Durham
    2:23 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    Haven’t seen this posted yet, and unrelated to the above post (sorry), but Jay Bilas once again ripping the NCAA and linking to a great explanation of the Kanter case (look to the comments section where Kanter’s lawyer replies).

  9. Musehobo
    2:24 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    HAHA it’s like BTI’s back! Another stat line spun in a way NO ONE in their right mind would see it. We all know what happened in the fourth quarter to UK last year. Hopefully this year we surprise everyone…including ourselves.

  10. NotBuyingIT
    2:27 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    Brooksy, who took us to the peak of mediocre, tried so sell this one year when UK scored three second half TD’s and lost to Florida 56 to 28 one year. Problem was the score was 49 to 7 at the end of the first half. #1 is dead on it. I HOPE I AM WRONG but this season has all the makings of a disaster!

  11. WE LOSE
    2:32 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    Who was playing for these teams in the fourth quarter?? High school seniors against our #1’s. This is a ridiculous stat. The reason we did well in the 4th was that the other coaches had A) let off the gas B) covered the spread and C) were playing second team.

  12. dave
    2:46 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    UK-VU: 4Q: 7-0 VU final: 38-3 VU
    UK-UF: 4Q: 7-0 UF final: 48-10 UF
    UK-LSU: 4Q: 7-7 final: 35-7 LSU
    UK-MSU: 4Q: 7-0 UK final: 28-16 MSU
    UK-UGA: 4Q: 7-0 UGA final: 19-10 UGA
    so, UK only out-scored 28-14 in 4Q, but 168-46 in 5 game total. good? point.

  13. Laker Cat 18
    2:52 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    So the point you’re trying to make is the 3rd string of other SEC teams can beat our starters? Interesting.

  14. HB
    3:00 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    I think the cats did vastly better under Brooks int the 4th quarter as opposed to the Curry/Mumme/Morris eras. Brooks’s teams were able to WIN games in the 4th quarter, while the earlier errors teams seemed to collapse in the 4th quarter. Need more data on Joker.

  15. Durrrr
    3:40 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    But we all still think Joker is a great guy.

  16. james
    4:20 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    Look, KSR performs a great service and beyond that it is free, so we really don’t have much of a leg to stand on when there is a gripe. But I just can’t help myself this time.

    Everyone before me has already pointed out why UK scores ‘more’ in the fourth quarter. It is obvious…seen by everyone OTHER than the guy that wrote the post. I don’t know if Jones has given orders to his people to only write positive things about the football team but c’mon…this wasn’t even close to being legitimate. KSR’s weak point is the lack of experience of many of its writers. Jones, Franklin and Ms Tyler are pretty solid. Ally Tucker on the KSR College site is also promising but the drivel that comes from some of these writers is, well, insulting. There are tons of fans who read this site who know a hell of a lot more than some of the writers who think they are ‘experts’. And some of them absolutely have diarrhea of the keyboard.

    I am grateful for the commitment of Jones and the older folks. They have made this a nice site for UK fans but please, please, please younger writers, have your stuff proofed by folks with more experience and age. All you end up doing is making yourself look foolish.

  17. #1UKSucker
    4:24 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we have the talent to make a BCS bowl, and we are going to compete for the SEC east, and we have a chance to play for the SEC title because someone said Florida, TN, Georgia, and S. Carolina have academinc problems.

    Nothing beats delusional UK football fan!!!

  18. PaCatFan
    4:53 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but when it comes to the optimistic side of the UK football program some of these stats are really stretching it to give us hope.

  19. STEVE!
    5:58 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    Great. We scored 41 points in the 4th Quarter. That’s an average of 3.4 points per game…against teams that were only trying to run out the clock and not have any injuries, and when the opponent scores 56 points during the same time, that is NOT “scoring more points that your opponent in the fourth quarter”. Sheesh!

  20. WildcatDJ
    7:40 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    Dang, we were pretty good last year after all.

  21. putinrichie
    9:16 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    For starters, we won 5 of our 12 games last season. We were also in several other games in the fourth quarter such as Louisville, Miss State, and Georgia. So 8 of the 12 games we were NOT facing the other teams second/third string…..some of you make it sound like that the norm last season when we only got blown out four times.

  22. bbn4life
    9:32 pm August 15, 2012 Permalink

    Hate to be so negative regarding our football team, cause i want them to be a team that we can all be proud of but hell they should havebeen no.1 on the positive side of that list, hell should of out scored every team we played in the 4th quarter when u are gling against another teams 3rd and 4th strings!!