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Why hasn’t Kentucky offered KyKy Tandy?


Hopkinsville’s KyKy Tandy is earning offers from several college basketball programs as he enters the summer before his senior season at University Heights Academy. His latest came from Gregg Marshall and Wichita State, which brings his list to 10 schools that have extended an offer. That list also includes SEC schools Tennessee, Ole Miss and Florida, as well as Cincinnati, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Kansas State, New Mexico State and nearby Western Kentucky.

But one school is noticeably absent from his offer sheet: the University of Kentucky. So why is that?

For starters, I think Tandy — though very, very good — isn’t quite the level of guard John Calipari can typically hand-pick from the high school ranks. He is currently ranked as the 28th best shooting guard in the 247 Sports Composite (although that ranking will likely improve soon) and there are several other guards who are already on Kentucky’s big board as major targets. Many UK fans see him as a Dominique Hawkins-type addition to the roster, but Tandy is too good (especially in his own mind) to take the Hawkins path of coming off the bench for four years. He wants to shine right away. His father said so.

Calipari could eventually offer Tandy, and maybe he will, but at this stage in the process it doesn’t seem he is in a rush to throw an offer out to someone who isn’t part of his Plan A for the Class of 2019. And that Plan A is already off to a great start with the commitments of DJ Jeffries and Tyrese Maxey, and being in a great position with James Wiseman, Jalen Lecque and Keion Brooks.

Then there is Tandy’s father, who made headlines with his comments to Kyle Tucker. His exact words were: “If he does get an offer, he’s not going to Kentucky with three or four point guards there. He’s not no bench player. And that’s what they think he is: He’ll just come in and play four years. No, no.” [SEC Country]

While I admire his father’s confidence and wanting the best for his son, that attitude is exactly what Calipari stays far, far away from. If you’ve followed Cal closely over the years, you know he has very little tolerance for parents who give ultimatums and can’t let go of control. All the kids he has gotten and succeeded with in the past, they had parents who stepped away and let Calipari work his magic. He wants to be trusted; not told how things will work out. So Tandy’s father might’ve cost his son the opportunity to be a Wildcat by rubbing Cal the wrong way with his comments. Again, there is nothing wrong with what Tandy’s father said and how he sees his son’s value to a team; it just isn’t going to get him a Kentucky uniform as long as Cal is in charge.

Now for a third reason behind Kentucky’s hesitance to extend an offer to Tandy, and it’s only a theory of mine: This tweet did not sit well.

Tandy tweeted his Kansas State offer less than 24 hours after Kansas State beat Kentucky in the NCAA tournament. Was it a troll job? Or did Bruce Weber really call Tandy on the day between the Sweet 16 and the Elite Eight, one game shy of the Final Four, to extend a scholarship offer? It sure seems like Tandy waited to tweet the offer. Whatever the case, though, I’ve heard whispers that it did not go unnoticed by the UK staff and the timing did not help his chances.

So there you go. Three reasons why I believe KyKy Tandy still does not have an offer from the University of Kentucky. Personally, I want nothing but the best for Tandy because he and I are from the same dirt (shout-out Region 2/shout-out El Bracero/shout-out Ferrell’s) and we have a few mutual acquaintances, but I’m afraid he has some factors working against him at this point in his recruitment.

As it stands today, right now at this very moment, I think Cal would lean toward the other in-state prospect, Dontaie Allen, over Tandy.

But Tandy still has a whole summer on the Under Armour circuit and his senior season of high school to change Cal’s mind.

Article written by Drew Franklin

I can recite every line from Forrest Gump, blindfolded. Follow me on Twitter: @DrewFranklinKSR

95 responses to “Why hasn’t Kentucky offered KyKy Tandy?”

  1. bigblue2284

    I hope your wrong about the Kansas State tweet. If that tweet didn’t sit well with Cal that’s absurd. Is Tandy not allowed to be grateful? Additionally I’m willing to bet Cal has dealt with much worse than Tandy’s father. His father setting expectations is fine and perhaps he’s watched players like Hawkins and Willis get little playing time and decided to be upfront.

    1. Wilfred Smith

      Decided to go ahead and let Cal know that he would be a pain in the ass?

      How about saying, “I’m confident he can compete with anyone in the country. He can earn playing time no matter who he has to compete with.”

    2. Booby Petrino

      his father sounded like a cry baby who will only let his son go somewhere he has guaranteed playing time. if your son is as good as you claim, he will earn time. Pass on the cry babies who want things promised.

    3. J-Dub421

      His father sounds like Lavar Baall 2.0. Hard pass.

    4. UKinIN

      I’m sure Calipari is comfortable handling the egos of kids and their parents. I’m also confident that Calipari would keep those conversations private while Kyky’s dad has decided to take it public.

    5. bigblue2284

      J-Dub his father isn’t LaVar Ball 2.0 that’s dumb. He made a statement and everyone went nuts, it’s ok to want your child to have opportunity to succeed and if UK has four PG I see his point.

    6. TBW3011

      I’m sure he has dealt with worse than this kids father. And I’m also sure in that instance the player was good enough that it was worth it. If this kid weren’t from Kentucky we wouldn’t know he exists. If headaches come along with you then you better be MUCH better than this kid.

    7. ClutchCargo

      bigblue2284, maybe you missed the part where there are a lot of equal or better options out there, none of which have a dad running his mouth before his kid has even been offered? Kid is an excellent Plan B, but that’s it. I actually hope it works out that he comes to UK, but the stuff mentioned won’t help his chances.

    8. bigblue2284

      Is there a lot of better talent out there? Don’t know, there are higher rated players sure. Do you think Skal was the 2nd best player in his class? How about Ulis being rated 21 and Andrew Harrison 5? Think that was accurate? A kid from Kentucky often won’t get the exposure of other players.

    9. Cryingtheblues

      Then the dad should keep his mouth shut and let the kids skills on the floor do the talking for him.

    10. ClutchCargo

      I said “options” not “talent.” Talent is one thing, but attitude is just as important. I have no idea what kind of person KyKy is, but the statement by his dad kind of sets the tone for the drama that could come if he does end up at UK. The stable is already full of guys who don’t have that working against them, is all I’m saying. Why would Cal take anybody at this point who is not the ideal player and teammate?

    11. Cryingtheblues

      Are you KyKy’s father or something? Dude you’re being so defensive. Bottom line, Cal is gonna make the final decision regardless what Mr Tandy, yourself, or anyone else says. Let it go!

    12. bigblue2284

      ClutchCargo I won’t name names but Cal has had several players that didn’t fit in well and weren’t the best teammates. Your basing your entire argument against Tandy on something his father said which seems unfair. It shouldn’t matter if Cal offers him or not we should support a local kid and not try and label him negatively. He is a fantastic basketball player period, let’s leave it at that and allow Cal to decide on the offer.

  2. jos_ros_

    very well put drew

  3. lexslamman

    The more I hear about this dude, the more he sounds like a queen that needs to go somewhere else for school.

    1. runningunnin.454

      He will.

    2. Luether

      Agree…

  4. friendsofcoal

    Cal needs to stay away from that situation!

    1. Rembrandt

      I don’t know anything about Tandy personally, and I don’t like judgmental innuendo about athletes. But, if anyone wants to know why Tandy hasn’t received a UK scholarship offer, just take a look at the guards already in UK’s 2018 and 2019 classes. Duh!

  5. (Aixelsyd)0505

    Yea time to forget this kid

  6. (Aixelsyd)0505

    Definitely a queen and Far from a King

  7. Jonathan40330

    Why are people hammering the son when it was the father who made absurd statements? I mean nevermind the fact that the son doesn’t even live with the father. If Calipari believes we have better prospects interested in UK, then recruit them instead of Tandy. If Tandy believes his basketball talent will be better utilized at another school, then he needs to forget about UK and go elsewhere. Honestly, I believe Tandy is too short for the position and that Allen will be a better fit for UK, but that doesn’t take away from Tandy’s ability to play D1 basketball.

  8. BBN_strive_4_9

    Because his dad is lavar ball 2.0

  9. jaws2

    But, but, but…….., he’s a KY kid. Cal HAS to have him, he’ll play for the name on the front of the shirt! Blah Blah Blah!

  10. Cmart0907

    Because he isn’t a top 20 recruit. His father isn’t a Lavar Ball. People only heard one thing from the kids father. The kid can flat out play ball. We need more basketball players than athletes. Cal stubborn ass won’t offer him. And i hope this back fires on Cal.

    1. J-Dub421

      “And i hope this back fires on Cal.” Wow, you sound like a great UK fan.

    2. Basteballer

      I prefer Cal’s judgement over Cmart0907 by about a million to one. Your last sentence was very revealing.

    3. (Aixelsyd)0505

      I want what your smoking!!

    4. TBW3011

      7 guards on the roster better than this kid.

    5. UKNUTZ

      Cal missing out on a guy like Louis King because he didn’t offer him could possibly backfire on us this year. But not offering on Tandy? How could that backfire on him, and why would you want it to? Who do you root for again?

    6. callitlikeiseeit

      tbw3011…..and how do you know we have 7 guards better than him. 1. we have never seen him play college bball. 2. How can any returning guard be declared better than him? 3. The incoming guys I guess you are going by rankings as we have never seen them play any college bball either. Keep in mind last years group were all rated very high, 5 star blah blah blah. The best player was the lowest ranked guy in the group, and not a 5 star. We don’t know how good any of the new guys will be, we do know any that return are not great and have lots to work on. We do know we will have no experience so unless 3 or 4 of the Freshman urn out to be Durant, Carmello type players we once again have no title shot. Will have to wait till November to know what we got, AGAIN.

  11. kellywjohnson

    I am not sure that Dontaie Allen has the motor to play for Cal. So, I wouldn’t bet on him being a Wildcat either.

  12. s49

    He has an awful attitude

  13. satcheluk

    If you’re not a bench player, then come and prove it. He’s not going to sit if he’s the best player.

    1. (Aixelsyd)0505

      He’s to scared tho.

    2. Cmart0907

      That don’t mean anything. SKJ sat behind Nick Richards. Devin Booker sat behind the Harrison Twins. Cal won’t change one bit.

    3. Luether

      My sources say that Cal would Jon Hood him…

  14. Irish son

    Did he embarrass Ky with that tweet? Well good, they should be embarrassed. To lose a game of that magnitude to a Bruce Fcking Weber coached team is inexcusable.

    1. TBW3011

      Can’t disagree with this. It was embarrassing. I’ve come to expect those ends to the season though.

    2. Cmart0907

      Cal played at their pace. Cal should’ve pushed the tempo. SGA walked the ball up court every time. Cal’s fault. Once again. Like every year. Excuses after Excuses.

    3. henderblue

      Let it go boys. Let it go…

    4. Basteballer

      TBW3011 has “come to expect those ends to the season…” even though UK has been in the F4 4/9 times and the championship game 2/9 times at UK in the Cal era. People who say things like this are ridiculous. Seriously.

  15. Codayo

    So the 28th ranked guard isn’t level of player cal recruits, but the 65th ranked sf is?

    1. TBW3011

      You think Cal looks at some pencil dick with a blogs rankings or evaluates for himself. Also, we have a plethora of guards better than this kid. Don’t need any more.

    2. makeitstop

      I’m not sure what ranking ur looking at but if u mean Jeffries, 24/7 has him at 9th best SF and 31st bear player overall. Big difference. The 25 best at their position can “make” any team but they’re not going to be freshman starters on a good one.

    3. Codayo

      Wasnt talking about jeffries. Was talking about Dontaie Allen.

  16. nadroj

    Hard to believe how harsh you all are being to Tandy’s father. Everyone who talks about Tandy makes the Dom comparisons. And his father is right that Tandy is better than that, and deserves to go somewhere where he won’t be riding the bench for four years. There weren’t any ultimatums there, and the father isn’t even close to the same league as Lavar Ball. Come on. Tandy shouldn’t come to UK, and his father gave GOOD reasons why not.

    1. Rick_S

      He’s free to pick any school he wants..It won’t be at UK.

    2. TBW3011

      He sounded butt hurt he hasn’t got an offer. If he doesn’t want to come here anyway then move along and go somewhere you’re wanted and needed. Neither of those apply here.

  17. Basteballer

    I have absolutely no interest in this kid. I see a whole field of red flags going up on this one.

    1. (Aixelsyd)0505

      EXACTLY!

    2. chardun20

      What are the red flags and when did your opinion really matter to Coach Cal? Your act as if you are really important to UK Basketball.

    3. ClutchCargo

      Maybe Coach Cal already has that same opinion. Still no offer, and no indication one is coming. You seem awfully defensive about this.

    4. chardun20

      ClutchCargo, I probably should have worded it differently. Basteballer is acting like KyKy is bad kid or something. Again what are the red flags?

    5. Basteballer

      I never even hinted that he’s a “bad kid.” That’s all you. But I DID say that I see a lot of red flags. Those include a sense of entitlement (maybe more parent than kid, I don’t know, but it is definitely the voice feeding his ear behind the scenes) and an overinvolved parent. The troll move of the tweet is an indicator that he’s butt hurt about not getting an offer. If that’s the case, he’s got an overinflated sense of self and isn’t a good fit at KY. None of that means he’s a “bad kid.” But Kentucky isn’t for everyone, including kids from Kentucky. If he were more like DHawk it would be a different story. But he thinks more about himself than how he would fit at Kentucky which means he’s better off at a different school.

    6. chardun20

      Why not say that at 1st. When I see or hear red flag, it generally means something is wrong or bad thing is about to happen. He’s a higher rated player coming out of high school, no comparison, 4 Star vs 2 Star.

  18. mj4uk

    Comparisons for Tandy vs. Hawkins aren’t even close. Dominique was humble. He could’ve played major minutes somewhere else, but was willing to sacrifice to play at UK. He led his team to a State Championship. Tandy may be great, but his character is different from Dominique’s. Not knocking him, its just different. He wants to go somewhere where he can be a star, that’s fine. It wouldn’t happen here though; at least not immediately.

    1. chardun20

      You know nothing about his character. What makes Hawkins a better person because he was willing to sit on bench?

    2. Soylentbeans

      I think you may have misunderstood the comment. Mj4uk never once said Hawkins was better. never once said he was better for sitting on the bench. said that Hawkins was humble and sacrificed minutes he could have easily had else where to play at uk. Even went on to say not knocking the kid that his character is just different from hawkins.

  19. Rick_S

    Dad and son blew a chance to play at UK..won’t happen

  20. TBW3011

    1. There are better players. 2. Dad’s comments and #1 combined aren’t something Cal has time to deal with.

  21. (Aixelsyd)0505

    Louisville hasn’t even offered this kid either so how is it to anyone’s surprise that Kentucky hasn’t?

    1. runningunnin.454

      He wouldn’t consider Louisville with the Sword of Damocles hanging over their heads. Actually, Kansas State, Iowa State, Wichita State are good programs; but, Florida would be a tempting offer…fun in the sun.

  22. david8577

    Go into a job interview and say, “I want a job offer, but I’m not going to take the job.” and see how far that gets you.

    1. ClutchCargo

      Better yet, go to that job interview and tell the manager that you will only go to work there if you are immediately put at the same level as those who have worked to earn a couple of promotions. It’s actually shocking how often this attitude is put on full display in the real world these days.

    2. makeitstop

      Exactly Clutch – Might as well show up for the interview wearing a button saying “I’ll sue u one day.“ May not be fair to paint the son w sins of the father but that’s all we know about him apart from his scoring. And on that limited resume I’d say don’t walk away, run. He can thank his dad for that.

  23. david8577

    Also, a Kentucky offer says you are legitimate; a Kansas St. offer does not. Doesn’t matter if the sun shined on the dog’s ass that is KSU one day back in March. Sounds to me like this is why he wants the offer.

  24. TBW3011

    Last thing, check out that offer list. Kentucky isn’t the only thing missing. Duke? UNC? Kansas? I must be overlooking the big schools.

  25. chardun20

    No disrespect to Hawkins, KyKy is a much higher rated player coming out high school. I haven’t heard or read anything that Tandy’s father said that was Lavar Ball like. To be fair to UK, so far none of the Bluebloods have offered KyKy yet either. If anything let the recruiting process play out.

  26. The last sith lord

    Uk doesnt normally go after the best instate players. They really havent since dirk minnifield and crew.
    Eric brown Jeron Brown. Prince stewart. Scotty hopson. Chris lofton Barry Boweman. Nimbo hammons . derrick anderson said he wasnt recruited by uk out of high school and the same goes for travis ford and patrick sparks .
    Coach after coach uk for whatever reason ontinually misses on the best talent in the home state and this is just another same song and same sad story sung again

    1. ClutchCargo

      To be fair, the talent in KY isn’t nearly what is needed to supply a powerhouse like UK. I think we have done ok over the years, even with the same sad story sung again.

    2. michaelb

      They wanted parks to walk on or red shirt

    3. The last sith lord

      @ClutchCargo look up the names i have listed … Barry bowman from.bryan station led the nation in scoring his freshman year. Prince stewart shut chris jackson down . nimbo had 4 great years running pg for mike jarvis . jeron brown out pitt n ben howland on his back n carried them to the elite 8 (which ironically was played in rupp while uk had been already put out the ncaa tourny… I havent even mentioned harris the sf forward at butler deangelo russle or the norther ky pg that ran chris macks xavier teams. Theres better talent here than uk talent evaluators

    4. Basteballer

      None of the names you mentioned were great players other than Russell. And most of them were pre-Cal. I’m gonna point out that Cal’s teams have won more regular season games and more NCAAT games than any other team in the country. Period. I think he’s pretty good at evaluating talent, don’t you?

  27. Sentient Third Eye

    There’s not a major basketball program in the country who would not recruit a kid over a tweet. That’s just silly. Tandy could have gotten a K-State chest tattoo during a livestream the next day after they beat us, and if Cal still thought there was a place for him here, the scholarship offer would still be sent.

    1. ClutchCargo

      I tend to agree. That is quite a stretch.

  28. Kat4Life

    He’s not coming…..he likely was never in Calipari’s calculus, and for good reason, he has a stable of 5-star guards at his disposal……let’s just file him under “decent players we were never really interested in” and move on……ideally, his name will never show up on this site again.

  29. jaws2

    But he’s a KY kid! How could Cal do THIS to a KY kid?!! We’ll never get number 9 this way!!!

  30. Bluebloodtoo

    There seems to be plenty of information to suggest he could be problematic to team chemistry. If that’s true, then I could understand not offering him. Especially considering that his ranking doesn’t really justify that risk at this time. One bad apple… you know.

    1. michaelb

      hanus

  31. CoachCat

    His best offer is from Tennessee. That should say something to his father. No elite schools are chasing him. So why would Kentucky when the have enough 5 Star guards as it is. As far as the Dad goes Cal could care less. His dad is just supporting his son which I’m sure we all do any chance we get

  32. michaelb

    & s/o Dos Copas !

  33. chris43

    Maybe I’m wrong but he’s not a one and done player. He most likely is a 3-4 year guy. So let me get this straight daddy….we should sit other five stars who are better than your son so that he can play tons of minutes freshman year? You’re the 28th ranked SG. Chances are you most likely aren’t playing at any top schools your freshman year because simply put..the talent isn’t there yet. If you want tons of minutes you’re going to have to go to a lesser school. If you want to shut your mouth and compete…come to KY and earn it! If not go to freaking TN or OK or flipping Georgia or something. Maybe you prove me wrong…but as this point your mouth/attitude outweigh your skills. Simply put…you think you’re a lot better than you actually are. It’s a shame because I’d love to have a KY player who in time ends up being a star.

  34. ukwildcat1991

    How much u want to bet that kyky is reading this post and reading the comments? I wonder how he is feeling right now… feel bad for the kid. Really do.

    1. (Aixelsyd)0505

      I may be a dreamer… but I’m not the only one^^

  35. Swizzle

    Causecause he isnt good noughnough

  36. JoeMoney333

    I Still do not get the attachment to “in state” kids. We like kids more because of where they happen to be raised? Or born? Or played HS? Are there rules to this? I’m getting old and need to know how to be a grumpy old Kentucky fan. Someone help.

    1. Basteballer

      I’m with ya, dude. I don’t get it.

    2. (Aixelsyd)0505

      Because they play not only for the name on the back but for the name on the front… wanting to desperately show out for their friends and family can witness their stardom. Not to mention the hometown hero factor.

  37. Rembrandt

    There are thousands of high school basketball players in America who haven’t received offers from Kentucky. There are hundreds, at least, inside the Commonwealth who haven’t received offers from Kentucky.

    Cal has Quickley and Herro coming in 2018. Hagans and Maxey have already committed for 2019, and either could reclassify. Lecque has a scholarship offer, and appears very interested in Kentucky. So I don’t understand why we are even talking about Tandy.

  38. tmcclan16

    His dad is jaded by a lack of an offer obviously but that is no way to get one. besides do you want the number one, two, or three point guard or the the number 28? really not even in the ball park. Good luck to ya kid I’m sure you will have a great 4 year college experience somewhere else.

  39. BMT

    I don’t think he was trying to troll UK by tweeting about an offer from Kansas State. I have to imagine that most Kentucky kids grow up dreaming about playing at UK. Obviously this kid fits in that category, too. Now I’m assuming here that Tandy was already on K-State’s radar at this point, but if that assumption is correct, I can definitely see Weber calling him up right after the game and saying, “Hey, did you see we just knocked off Kentucky (a program that you admire and are really interested in playing for)? We think you’re a great basketball player and we’d like to extend an offer to you.” Yes, Kansas State just beat us and had a day to to get ready for the Elite Eight but how long does it take a coach to make a phone call, send a text message, e-mail, etc? We don’t know how the offer was communicated but it wasn’t like Bruce Weber had to appear in person to make it. As for the tweet itself, these kids are addicted to social media. Many of them tweet about being offered by D-1 schools. And IMHO, that’s all this really was.

  40. Wade

    We haven’t offered bc if cal has 3 or 4 guards that yr then it would be useless his dad said he ain’t sittin behind that many guards so he will be last minute decision cal can always flip him back anytime he just needs to shoot him straight and keep him on radar bc I like his game and he’s homegrown. Should have priority but it is what it is in this system. He wants to play at uk but first he wants to play so young man I hear you but don’t be scared of the comp it’s the best in the world here. Cream rises to the top.

  41. Le Docteur

    Kid’s attitude does matter to this extent: if he was willing to come in and work hard, sit the bench if someone beats him out, be a good teammate and make his case for PT through practice and play, offer him. Since all indications are that he ain’t that, why offer only to have him snub you and go someplace else? He should go to Vandy and light us up for 25 points twice a year, like Barry Goheen, Scott Draud and all the other Kentucky boys who were SEC good but not UK good.

  42. BoogieDMC

    His dad indicated that he’s not coming off the bench. That’s not good. Move on.