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BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Let’s Play the Hypothetical Game with Florida


It’s always fun to me to see just how far some fans will go to get a win.  I have no doubt that many fans would let you sleep with their spouse if it meant their team could win a championship.  At Kentucky, and especially when it comes to Kentucky football, dangling UK basketball in front of fans makes for an interesting conversation.  Obviously, Kentucky basketball rules so some fans would not give up anything basketball related for football success.  But this one kind of bounced around my head yesterday and I thought it would be interesting to see where fans would land:

TO GET A WIN OVER FLORIDA TOMORROW, WOULD YOU GIVE UP THE SEC CHAMPIONSHIP IN BASKETBALL TO FLORIDA THIS SEASON?

I think any reasonable fan who cares about football would have to consider that trade-off and here is why:

1. You giving up NOTHING when it comes to the NCAA Tournament.  And that is what should matter more than anything.  So what if the Gators take home the conference championship if you get the better of them during March Madness.  Or even the SEC Tournament.

2. Losing 26 games in a row to anybody is embarrassing.  We might not care as much about this streak as Tennessee but it is still the 1 fact everyone will mention coming into this game, and following the game, whether Florida extends the streak or Kentucky ends the streak.

3. There is no guarantee that Kentucky is going to win the conference title anyway in basketball.  Florida is going to be very good once again, and likely Kentucky’s only real threat in the league.  What if the Cats lose in football and still lose the conference basketball title as well?  This way, at least you are guaranteed one.

I am not saying that I would take this deal.  In fact, I probably wouldn’t.  My main objection would be what would a win over Florida mean for the program.  Yes, it would probably be the biggest upset of the week in college football and get Kentucky a little more national attention than before.  But fan support is already high, so I’m not sure a Florida win really adds that much support.  Plus, I am not sure a win vaults this team into bowl contention.  While giving up wins in basketball is sacrilege in this state.  The fanbase can be a bit more prickly when it comes to losing in basketball, and I am not sure I could accept throwing the fans into more a frenzy than the team will have anyway while WINNING.

So while I would just barely say no this deal, what do you think?  Would you be willing to give up a conference basketball title for 1 season to beat Florida Saturday?

Article written by Bryan the Intern

52 responses to “BTI’s Rants and Ramblings: Let’s Play the Hypothetical Game with Florida”

  1. Cats4ever

    Uh, NO!

  2. Chili billy

    Sorry, I wouldn’t trade any basketball games for the football team…just sayin’ u

  3. gatorhater

    u don’t give up shit F*** Florida

  4. Paul

    Definitely. Would give up anything short of NCAA title for a win Saturday.

  5. Musehobo

    I’m sure there are some people who would do that. But like most UK fans of both sports, I would say “no”. First off, basketball is waaay more important to me than football. Secondly, I always root for UK football, but I am used to losing. It really doesn’t sting that much when it happens as often as it does. In basketball, I want to dominate. I want to win the regular SEC championship. I want to win the SEC tourney. I want to win it all. I know it seems selfish to the football team, but the truth is, I’d rather see the basketball team win the SEC then the football team beat FLA.

  6. Jeff

    ALL DAY! I’ll give up basketball wins for football wins anytime!

  7. BlueDeuce

    No…basketball is the most important sport for UK. While I too cheer for the football team I won’t trade anything from basketball for success with football. UK will be fine with football in a couple years. They won’t win the National Championship or anything like that but putting up 8 win seasons will be there…just have to give Stoops some time.

  8. Sean

    No. Why don’t we just go out and upset florida and then win the sec too!

  9. SeaCat

    Musehobo says what 90% of BBN thinks.
    Plus I am so sick of reading about the Florida game
    And the 26 straight losses, I hope we lose 27-0.

  10. Tread lightly BTI

    Nope. If the football team wins it will be because they earned it. And plus after 26 years of butt whoopins is it really going to hurt that bad if UK loses? On the other hand maybe the conference championship is the only game the basketball team loses… 39-1 all because of BTI. Thanks a lot

  11. Downcline

    Just wanted to comment that I didn’t read this post.

  12. Coach

    Another day in the life of a football fan stuck in a basketball state. Yes I would take this win. Winning the SEC championship in basketball is like beating a blind kid in a seeing contest.

  13. Don Tucker

    I was tempted, but no. I would never give up a basketball win for anything. I want this 40-0. I was disappointed that the 2012 team didn’t get there because they deserved it. I think Metallica put it best when they wrote their song about Kentucky Basketball, Nothing Else Matters.

  14. Bob Harvey

    NEVER, never give up a basketball win for a football win. I live in Florida and am tired of hearing about the football streak but I still don’t want them to win the conference in basketball. NEVER, never!!

  15. goob

    dum

  16. What if Questions Stink

    Only if the football team was a contender. By gaining one additional win for a team that’s not going to a bowl over a SEC Bball title is just plain silly.

  17. Kyle Kasey (Not Macy)

    I’m gonna say NO!! As said in the article, a win tomorrow would not guarantee a bowl game. So on that note, patience is a virtue! In the next season or two the Cats will ptentially be an SEC power house. So why sacrifice basketball dominance for this victory this season. If things keep going the way they are Kentucky will starts it’s own winning streak very soon with out having to lose a conference title in basketball to do so.

  18. SadCat

    # 11 has a brilliant idea.

  19. RealCatsFan

    I have to say, some of the folks who say stuff like they are OK with losing in football because they are used to it exemplify the reason that UK has been a doormat in football for so long. In most seasons, I would take that deal in a heartbeat, but as others have mentioned, if this basketball team otherwise has a chance to go 40-0, then it gives me pause. If BTI had said the trade would be for the SEC Tourney Championship, then it would be a no-brainer to take the deal, because I think the tourney championship is MUCH less important for seeding than the regular season championship. Also, like in 96 and 2012, I think the sting of that loss is what often lights a fire under a talented team that is used to winning easily. It gives them the fuel and determination to plow through the next six games for the big prize.

    I hope to see this god-awful streak ending soon, if not this year, then next year or the year after. I think Stoops has us headed in the right direction, if only some of the negative fans with the losing attitude would get on board.

  20. Tim from Hendo

    Wouldn’t trade anything for anything.. I think we can have both. Hoping to go undefeated in basketball. Which I believe is possible, once we get past Michigan in the 3rd game. (Big game a little too early)
    I am also still believing in a bowl for this season.

    Week 5 9/28 vs. Florida possible
    Week 6 10/05 at So Carolina
    Week 7 10/12 vs. Alabama
    Week 8 10/19 Open
    Week 9 10/24 at Miss State possible
    Week 10 11/02 vs. Alabama State possible
    Week 11 11/09 vs. Missouri possible
    Week 12 11/16 at Vanderbilt possible
    Week 13 11/23 at Georgia
    Week 14 11/30 vs. Tennessee possible

    I think we can find 5 victories in the rest of the season. A win tomorrow makes 6 wins even easier. And the OPEN week after Bama is going to be a big help also. I put possible next to enough games to get us to 7 wins. Not ruling out other possible wins, just like I am not calling any win a definite. But I was saying Bowl this summer and not one thing has changed for me. I am just depending on weekly improvement and am seeing that so far.

  21. UKEITH26

    depends. Would we be undefeated at the time we give up the SEC Championship?

  22. Negative

    No sir. KU is only 10 wins behind UK on the all time list. Sacrificing wins to the football gods gives them a chance to take over the wins total.

  23. english professor

    While true… “While giving up wins in basketball is sacrilege in this state.” isn’t a complete sentence.

  24. binarysolo

    “If one of your kids had to die, which one would you pick?” “Look, BTI, that is a horrib-” “Hypothetically speaking, of course. I’m gonna kill one of them right now, so pick.” “BTI, why do you suck so much day in day out?”

    I can’t wait until UK Football gets to a point where it earns wins against Florida without having to make a deal where we have to lose in anything otherwise. Then BTI would be forced to write about something POSITIVE for once.

  25. bigbluetrue

    Yep. All day long.

  26. H.A. Milton

    Sorry if someone posted this or if its in the article, which I didn’t read, but…you are talking about giving up 40-0 for a dinky win for a busted football team. F.O.H.

  27. bbr

    Never. Basketball is way more important.

  28. Eastern Kentucky UK Fan

    To git a win over Florida, I wud have secks with my sister! Oh well, Im a gonna do that anyhows, win or no win. Go Cayuts!

  29. Admiral Halsey

    As long as it’s by one game and we still win the BB title i’m fine with it.

  30. Coach

    Who here really likes basketball better than football as a sport? Seriously? Football strategically and philosophically > basketball. It’s a more demanding sport both physically and mentally as a player. It’s a more complex sport. It’s a more team oriented sport. In basketball you can have one great player and you can compete.

  31. Travis

    I am confused on what we are talking about here. I thought the goal of the basketball season was to go undefeated? Do not get me wrong I love Kentucky football, but with our team being so young, coach being so new, and the disappointment we were last year I just want to compete. We are obviously competing in every game we have played in this year. So why, when we should really have zero expectations for football this year, would we give up the chance to make history to go undefeated. Plus I would love to see Bobby Knight’s face when he can no longer say he was the last coach to have an undefeated season, but I live in IN so maybe I’m biased.

  32. Ukbkball

    NO!…Hell No!

  33. GP

    I’d give up a W or the conference titl, long as we get the national championship.
    In an ideal world we could have both, but in this hypothetical situation I’d sacrifice for the end of the streak and the betterment of UK football.

  34. greg

    Hell No I wouldn’t take that trade off. This team won’t win enough games to get into the worst of bowl games this year. A win wouldn’t have all that much meaning. The football team will improve and be competitive in the future with no trade offs in my oipinion.

  35. Real UK Fan

    I wouldn’t trade a single basketball win for a national championship in football. Football is just not important.

  36. Blue Jesus

    I guess it depends on more details. For example if that SEC Tourney game is the difference between and undefeated season and a one loss season, then no way. If the bball team has lost a game or two, then probably I would. It didn’t hurt the 2012 team, or the ’96 guys either. Though as I think about it more, it sure would be nice to win both in one year… even if we did have a loss earlier in the season. Imagine if we lose to Michigan State and then win out. Boy am I excited.

  37. Eric

    The SEC basketball tourney means NOTHING. Beating Florida in football hurts them WAAAY more than beating them in basketball in the SEC championship helps us.

    We lost in the SEC tourney in 2012 and howd that turn out? Again.. the SEC tournament means nothing. I would take a football win.

    GO CAYTS

  38. BigBlueBear

    I would trade a basketball championship for an SEC football championship…. I would forfeit our basketball program for 2 years for a BCS National Championship.

  39. MustacheMan

    Hell to the No. Kentucky is and always will be, a basketball school. Plus we can’t go undefeated and not win the SEC championship. If we go undefeated i’m pretty sure Bobby Knight will have a heart attack.

  40. bbr

    “Who here really likes basketball better than football as a sport? Seriously? Football strategically and philosophically > basketball. It’s a more demanding sport both physically and mentally as a player. It’s a more complex sport. It’s a more team oriented sport. In basketball you can have one great player and you can compete.”
    Me – about a thousand times better. Strategically and philosophically better than basketball? I’m not sure what you mean by philosphically, but more strategic and complex, more mentally and physically demanding, no way. A large portion of the football team doesn’t move more than 6 feet on the majority of plays and then they have to take a break in between. “Ok, bubba, on this play you are going to hit the guy in front of you, got it? On the next play we are goign to get really crazy and you are going to hit the guy on your left. Try and knock them down ok?” Yeah thats strategic and mentally demanding.

  41. Ryan

    Yes. All day. Here’s why:
    1. 26 in a row is ridiculous. Breaking the streak on national television would be great.
    2. Muschamp losing his job = Charlie Strong maybe leaving. And I would love to watch UofL freak out.
    3. Has no impact on the national title that we all so desperately want.
    4. Big wins like this have to happen for UK football to step to the next level.

  42. PW

    I grew up in Kentucky, so I’ve always like basketball more than football. To this question I say NOPE NOPE NOPE! Give up the potential of a historic season for a meaningless win in a meaningless sport that basically has a beauty contest instead of a postseason? Psh.

  43. Trevathan

    Wow! I hate our fanbase so much. Basketball isn’t the most important sport to Kentucky in terms of revenue and money controls everything. It’s just the most important sport to all the one-stoplight towns in Kentucky. You win this game, you change the way people look at you. You change the way recruits look at you – especially recruits in talent-rich Florida. Every dang one of you are so spoiled by the riches of Calipari because you’ve been able to totally abandon any challenging fandom and simply root for the best talent in the nation. I honestly wish UK could sell their football program to another school so I could go root for that school and not have to be associated with the basketball fans of our program. Because nothing kicks off Sportscenter like SEC basketball championships.

  44. Hightway119

    What Ryan said. Plus, what would a conference title mean? Can anyone name me the last 5 conference winners, regular season or tourney? It’s not like any other team is breathing down our necks to take over as having the most of either. Plus, I disagree with an earlier post that says this wouldn’t be a big overall help to the football program, as we already have some momentum. Are you kidding me? Do you remember how much buzz was around KY when we upset LSU, or when we finally took down Spurrier, or even how great it felt, even without going to a bowl game, when we finally topped rock-top? Yes, people are excited about the future, but this place will be a flipping madhouse if we pick up the W tomorrow night! And think what it will do to the mindset of this young team who is not quite sure of what they’re capable of? Losing tomorrow isn’t the end of the world, but winning would create a whole new one…one this Wildcat fan has been dreaming of since he can remember. Not quite as monumental as another SEC banner to go with the other 40+.

  45. Coach

    @40-bbr..hahaha really? You really think football is that simple? And it’s not demanding? Go ask Curtis Martin and Emmit Smith how demanding it is? Your body takes a beating. At every position and at every level. The avg career of an NFL running back is 2 years. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Basketball definitely fits your IQ level. You two are a perfect match.

  46. Jim 1

    It seems that by giving up a win in basketball for (in this case an SEC championship) a win in football is accepting mediocrity for the football program. I have heard many fans along the Ky/Tn border say I don’t care if we win a game in football if we can beat Tn. ( Mediocrity Accepted).

    The question is silly. Beat Fla in football when they are the walking and wounded doesn’t leave much bragging room. Just like the win over Tn when they sucked. I’m not for conceding any win, not even in mumble-peg. Get behind Stoops and the gang and demand a team that will compete every year, and the wins will come. But to sacrifice a game or championship in basketball for one win over Fla. etc. in football will assure our football program is our little mumble-peg. Wins are important, not a win.

  47. Is this for real? Nvm, BTI wrote it

    No…

  48. ribin

    Without a doubt !!!!!!

  49. Wildcatsteeler

    Definitely! Beating Florida in football would be HUGE! For team confidence, fan confidence and recruiting. It would be a giant leap forward for this young, rebuilding team. It would mean more football ticket sellouts for the rest of the season and more money for the university. Winning the regular season basketball conference means very little.

  50. ukcatzfaN

    NO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYNO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,

  51. bluecat

    Hell no ain’t giving up nothing we can have both no disrespect but we’re a roundball school and state oval ball is just to keep us interested till roundball starts sorry but go Ky football

  52. bluecat

    49 it means very little my ass they all mean everything to a blue blooded wildcat fan