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Article written by Nick Roush

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108 responses to “Auburn Falls in the Final Four over a Questionable Call”

  1. ukcamel

    But it was a clear foul.

    1. jahanc2uky

      Ball should have been inbounded further back in the half court. Doubt he gets that pass and shot if they are throwing it in from half court.

    2. KYCat4EVER

      Ukcsmel… SPOT ON! Congrats to the referees who had the courage to make that call!

      Even more, the class behavior of the Auburn Team, Coach, and even Charles Barkley! Proud to have you representing the SEC in the final four, and exhibiting true CalAS after a tough defeat!

      SEC. SEC

    3. Luether

      Auburn and Bruce Pearl snatched defeat from the jaws of victory…

    4. catsarerunnin

      My sources say you know nothing about snatch….

    5. John Capilari

      Nothing questionable. It was definitely a double dribble, and it was definitely a foul. Sucks for Auburn.

    6. Irish son

      Absolutely

  2. IndianaSucks

    Definitely a foul. Refs missed double dribble on Virginia though. Terrible way to lose a game for Auburn.

    1. DirtyDave

      Look closely at the replay….before he picked up his dribble and then double dribbled he was fouled

    2. IndianaSucks

      That’s what Jay Williams was saying. I haven’t seen it again since. I’m just glad Michigan state won’t win either. Izzo’s 8 final fours and 1 title.

  3. Wilfred Smith

    If Auburn doesn’t flop, we win in regulation. They can have a nice BBQ at Bruce’s house.

    1. TateD

      Eat some dick bitch

    2. IndianaSucks

      With that D in your name, obviously you’re providing the dish so how will it be prepared? As they say, you eat with your eyes first.

    3. recliner coach

      Yes, karma is a butch

  4. Lhw

    Not one to call out the refs, but Auburn didn’t even get kissed in the last 10 seconds. Geez, terrible

  5. shepdog3720

    That was a foul and it’s not even close….I have learned to despise UVA

  6. Carolina Blue is past tense for CAROLINA BLOWS

    Don’t believe it was Guy that dribbled it off of his foot. I screamed double dribble when but think the ref was so focused on calling a foul knowing they were that he missed it.

    1. IndianaSucks

      Correct, it was Jerome

  7. addyjaxlarkin

    Not questionable or controversial as far as the foul goes, it was clearly a foul. Very happy to see Virginia win was rooting for them but I will say it was a double dribble on Jerome and should’ve been called which would’ve ended the game basically. But that was definitely a foul. But along the lines of that I honestly think had he not fouled him I believe guy makes that shot.

    1. Cousins Fake Tooth

      Believe what you want, but touching him after the ball leaves his hands is not going to cause the trajectory of the ball to change. Shot still would of missed.

    2. addyjaxlarkin

      I disagree I think by invading his space it affected his shot regardless that is only an opinion the fact is it was a foul and huge for Kyle guy To go up to the line and knock down those shots

    3. UKinIN

      If you don’t call that foul you set defenders free to truck shooters before they land. Has to be called.

    4. Cokely53

      CFT but knocking out the guys leg while he is in the air is dangerous and definitely a foul. But 100% agree on the double dribble. It’s absurd that people aren’t saying anything about that.

    5. DirtyDave

      Plenty are taking about it!!! What no one IS talking about is the reach in foul that caused him to lose his dribble!

    6. IndianaSucks

      He touched him before the ball left his hands. Watch the replay.

    7. makeitstop

      It’s clearly contact before the ball leaves his hand. They slowed it down, Barkley and crew confirm it. Does that affect the shot? U bet. The shot was 3 inches short at most, and that’s easily caused by that contact. If anything u argue it would’ve been long but for the contact. I’ll let the Physicists figure that out.

  8. Bobbum Man

    Yeah to echo everyone else… it wasn’t really questionable or “controversial” as the announcers said…. it was a clear foul, the guy didn’t kick out or anything. Sucks to lose like that I was pulling for them but you can’t put yourself in that situation there

  9. ScottGreene22

    Auburn fought back late to take lead but gave that game away the last 8 seconds. Shouldn’t foul to give Virginia a chance to set up plays. The no call on the double dribble was a terrible call but one I didn’t catch until they told us.. That was a foul on the 3 pointer at the buzzer.

    1. makeitstop

      I didn’t catch it either and as CBS noted, it’s bc the refs were watching to call the foul that auburn wanted to commit. They should not hv, but that was their strategy. It was a good plan right up until it wasn’t.

  10. Knowbody

    Never should have ended this way. Horrible missed double dribble call on Virginia in final trip up the court.

    1. snoopjdawg

      Agreed. Foul doesn’t matter. He blatantly, no questions asked double dribbled. He even looked at the referee before he started to dribble again. Turrrible.

    2. DirtyDave

      He looked at the ref funny because of the no call reach in foul that caused him to lose his dribble

    3. catdaddyd

      They didn’t call Double Dribble because the guy was fouled to create the double dribble.

    4. DirtyDave

      You sir are absolutely correct!

    5. Luether

      It was the horrible and stupid foul by Auburn that cost them the game…

    6. catsarerunnin

      My sources say you’re an expert in horrible and stupid….

    7. DirtyDave

      No… it was a horrible no call on the reach in foul that caused him to lose his dribble!

  11. makeitstop

    Even Charles Barkley said, definitely a foul. In fact, had he not made that contact, Guy’s 3 is good. It was dead on and the contact took just a bit off the follow through. So before people jump Brown, it’s unfair, bc had he pulled up (as he should), it’s a 3 and clock expired, game over. Great game. AU played great, UVa did what they do, grind u down and don’t panic. They always play under control. Go ‘Hoos and take down Izzo if u get the chance.

    1. ukkatzfan

      What school did you learn that “it would have been good” at ?

    2. makeitstop

      I learned that by playing 25 years and watching for 50… the contact was made as the ball left his hand and it was just short. Force = mass x acceleration as we all learned, and the deceleration caused by the slight contact affects the force, and thus the distance. I’m willing to hear ur theory however.

    3. Soylentbeans

      None of that means that ball goes in. Did it change his shot? yes. Doesn’t mean that shot falls orherwise.

    4. CaliparisCats

      Makeitstop nice little theory to try to show your intelligence,but the fact is had they called the obvious double dribble va wouldnt even had that chance. Bottomline the win should be Auburn’s. End of story.

    5. makeitstop

      It’s prolly calculable but not by me – my guess is it’s good if not for the foul. I say that only to defend the kid who fouled. It’s obviously a foul, point is, don’t be mad at the kid, if he hadn’t fouled it’s prolly 3 anyway. But I’d like to focus on Guy making 3 straight to win… RJ Barrett couldn’t.

    6. KYJelly

      Guys, calm down, clearly makeitstop can see alternate timelines. In all seriousness, I don’t care how long you played you cannot say that the shot would’ve gone in 100%, that is what makes you look ignorant. You can say there is a good chance it would’ve gone in and explain why, but to act like it was for sure is dumb

    7. makeitstop

      Lol as I said, it’s probably calculable but not by me. I hated physics. The shot was on line, it’s pointless to argue about it, but it was maybe 3-4 inches short, front of rim, and the contact definitely took something off. My point was don’t blame the kid, if he doesn’t foul, the shot’s likely good. That seemed to be the consensus on the network, too, but it’s conjecture. It was a great game, tough ending for AU but a “questionable” call that one was not.

  12. shelby

    It was a foul and a good call; too bad refs went blind on the double dribble.

    1. bennybbn

      Shouldn’t have ever came to that point, the double dribble ends the game inexplicable to miss that, auburn should be playing in the national championship

    2. catsarerunnin

      Much like the no call in the Saints/Rams playoff game. Two high profile games with blown no calls.

  13. ukbradstith

    Yes it was a foul, but honestly they shouldn’t have fouled at half court after the missed double dribble. Let’s them set up a better shot. But tough to blame Auburn on that. Just a bad break. They got s good break vs. Mexico St and UK. Just the way it goes.

  14. Kerosenerag

    Yea that was a bum way to lose a game. You gotta know to not touch a shooter in that situation. He fouled him no question. Refs cost them the game with no call on double dribble for sure. Been bad referring in alot of games this season…just saying!

    1. Smyrna_Cat

      Auburn player bumped him. Right in front of the ref. Foul.

    2. Soylentbeans

      Kero said “he fouled him no question”.

  15. jim tom

    Highway robbery period

  16. mashman 93

    Congrats to Auburn on a great season. Hopefully Kentucky gets back to the final four next year. GO BIG BLUE!!!

  17. UKinIN

    Not sure why so many UK fans were pulling for a classless cheater like Pearl.

    1. snoopjdawg

      Had you rather get beat by the national champions watch a team beat Kentucky and lose the next game for 16 straight? I’d rather lose to the winner.

    2. snoopjdawg

      Or watch a team*

      typo. My bad

    3. IndianaSucks

      Rooting for the SEC

    4. krautdog

      Why? They screw UK in so many ways they look like a pin cushion!

    5. StillBP

      Screw Auburn. Losing to the eventual national champion wouldn’t make our loss any better. I preferred they win this one and lose in championship but I’m fine w them losing now.

    6. krautdog

      Pearl ran out of “snake oil”!

    7. ukcamel

      Today I learned snoopj is glad Duke won in 92, UConn in 2011, and UNC in 2017.

    8. makeitstop

      Camel, that’s funny!

  18. bryanq

    Auburn got screwed…..should be playing Monday night for championship

  19. chris43

    No doubt on the foul…BUT the double dribble was clear! Two refs in clear line of sight missed it badly. Should have been Auburn ball with 2.5…basically game over.

  20. BLUEWILDCAT

    16 straight time? NC beat us in 2017 EE and then they won it all.

    1. jahanc2uky

      NC was not the underdog…

  21. catsarerunnin

    Used to be a foul had to be pretty blatant to be called with one second left.

  22. runningunnin.454

    So the Virginia guy dribbles off his leg; picks up the ball with both hands…that’s it, he has to pass. A ref standing 10 feet away misses that? There is no excuse; that is just incompetence.

    1. makeitstop

      I usually agree w u but in this case, real time, I thought the defender caused the loss of control and it hit his leg. The ref was expecting a foul bc AU wanted to foul. It’s bad luck for AU but it’s pretty understandable, and if he didn’t see it, we don’t want him guessing. It wasn’t like “gee let’s screw AU” and overall they let them play and called it pretty well. They missed that, but a lot of us did, and it wasn’t a game where they called it differently at different times.

    2. Soylentbeans

      I’m not sure what replay you watched.

    3. Soylentbeans

      Talking to makeitstop. The ball was never touched by the auburn player.

    4. DirtyDave

      Maybe not but on the exact play you refer to the defender clearly fouled him which is why he lost his dribble

    5. KYwildcat8289

      In that case AU did want to foul which I don’t get as just let them heave it after the 1st in which game over. AU blew it and wasn’t too hard on the refs but I think they missed some calls on Harper and then end

    6. makeitstop

      Soylen, ur right watching the replay of the double dribble – I said watching it real time I thought it was a tip, and AU was trying to foul bc they had one to give. Earlier I talked about a replay, which was the shot – definitely contact while still in his hands (foul either way). It was clearly a double dribble. My point was real time, it didn’t appear to be and I don’t want refs guessing, as a lot of us hv said. Had AU not been trying to foul, refs may hv looked for it but they were watching for contact – just one of those things. Not a one sided game though, I think we agree.

    7. Soylentbeans

      Apologies I didnt realize you mentioned live I thought you were saying real time as in real time replay.

    8. runningunnin.454

      Makeitstop, it’s ok to disagree…no harm, no foul ha ha. I saw the DD in real time; and there’s no excuse for a ref 10 ft away to miss it; can’t have them anticipating a foul, either.
      Just watched the 2nd game, and more irritation for me; I guess I just don’t respect the ncaa and their refs.
      I don’t like a ref hop, skip and jumping 10 ft to call a charge (showboat). And I don’t like the defender making a desperation slap at a player that blows by him, and makes a layup, only to have the ref jumping in orgasmic ecstasy to call a foul on the floor and waving off the bucket.
      Anyway, GO Texas Tech.

  23. Smyrna_Cat

    Auburn fouled. Simple enough. Watch the replay. It was NOT a questionable call.

    1. 4everUKblue

      But the double dribble was missed and had it been called the foul would never have been a issue.

    2. catsarerunnin

      But Auburn shouldn’t have fouled after the double dribble either even with a foul to give. Lots of things in a matter of seconds decided that game.

    3. makeitstop

      I’d bet Bruce Pearl said “don’t let them get a 3 pt shot up, we hv 2 fouls to give” in that last TO at 6 seconds or so… the first one was a good foul, if a little quick. But Brown should’ve adjusted to the fact Jerome dribbled it off his leg and just backed off – that now obvious double dribble cost him the 2 seconds he needed to come get a reasonable 3 off, or pass to a shooter. Brown was thinking foul instead of adapting. Easy for me to say over coffee, hard to do in the moment, but that’s what it boiled down to.

  24. krautdog

    Not @ all unusual for a team to get so pumped for UK that they lose their next game – re: Alabama this season. If Auburn keeps Pearl very long he’ll get ‘m on probation. That’s why Tennessee got rid of him!

  25. jim tom

    I hate Virginia

  26. lexcatfan2367

    Oh no! ???????

  27. ExiledUK

    Pearl dyed his hair for nothing.

  28. KYwildcat8289

    No offense dude, I’ve never commented before, but it is astounding at the factual/grammatical errors in every one of your posts like there was no research done before posting false information. Appreciate ya as a fellow UK and AU Alum but it was Ty Jerome that had the double dribble and it was Samir Doughty that fouled at the end. Was going for UK over AU last weekend but this was blown by AU and more importantly the refs at the end

    1. makeitstop

      U sir, are exactly right. It was Doughty. And had he not fouled, the shot was probably going in, so u can’t blame him. That was a well played, well coached game. Sorry we weren’t in it, but these have been good games.

  29. eyebleedblue

    Fitting pearl cheated by refs after a career of cheating to get players. Karma is mofo, have a BBQ!!

  30. maximumscott

    Jerome dribbled off his foot. That was a double dribble yes. The foul on guy for 3 was a foul. PERIOD.

    1. 4everUKblue

      But had the double dribble been called, the foul never happens. Refs are either incompetent or crooked.

    2. KYwildcat8289

      No denying that man why the anger?

    3. makeitstop

      Yea – clearly a double dribble in slo-mo, clearly a foul in slo-mo. I can see how they missed the first, which even Barkley said they would’ve all missed. The second, we all saw. Tough break. These are all good teams. Shot falls here, foul called there, it’s 4 different teams.

  31. makeitstop

    Watching these games – and I wasn’t sure I would – it’s clear this tourney really has been good. Few upsets. The best moved onto the sweet 16 and really elite 8… no flukes here. All good basketball.

  32. Kyceltsfan

    Couldnt have happened to a nicer bunch. Pearl is as crooked as they get and I for one am happy they lost on a petty foul. Takes one to know one good riddance, sayonara, hasta la vista baby!

  33. KYJelly

    Bruce’s late game playcalling is worse than Cal’s. They had it won twice. Fouling the guy before he heaved it from half court and then foul8ng at the end

  34. Ched17

    Fletcher McAgee did the same thing at the end of the half to us. Dribbled off his foot with Herro pressuring him. Picked it up. Dribbled again and hit a fadeaway jumper.

  35. JATR4

    Harper missed a free throw.

  36. snoopjdawg

    Correct. Lose to the winner. Not the loser. Any coach will tell you that.

  37. jasonclark1984

    I’m not one to question stats but I believe your 16 time in a row is a lil off. We lost to unc in 2017 they went on to win the title. But outside of that I think the rest lost after beating us

  38. makeitstop

    I’m not sure where the “16 times in a row the team that beat us lost the next game” stat comes from but it’s wrong. As Jason points out UNC 2017 went on to win the NCAA. UConn, in 2011 also went on to win. I know Tubby’s last game was a loss to 1Seed KU in the opening round and they won 2 more bf losing in the EE. That’s just going back to 2007. They also lost in 2005 or 2006 in the second round to UConn I think, that went onto the EE, beyond that it’s a little fuzzy but the stat is way, way, off.

    1. makeitstop

      Looking back, we had a lot of early exits in the post-Pitino era, after 1998. In the 10 years prior to Cal, 2 EE’s but first and second round exits (and an NIT) half the time, only 5 Sweet Sixteens in 10 years… it was a successful season getting to the second weekend. To the haters, maybe a walk down memory lane to that decade would improve ur perspective.

  39. lexcatfan2367

    Hate that for ‘em…actually, no I don’t. I’m glad they lost.

  40. makeitstop

    Last thought here: it’s better for UK for UVa to move on. We almost never recruit against them. Different style. They recruit against UNC and Duke, though. If this gets then 1 more recruit that doesn’t go to UNC or Duke from one of the basketball factories in Va, good for us. Auburn meanwhile, would’ve had a “welcome to the new home of college basketball in the SEC” party and pitch to local recruits from GA, TN and AL that we do go after and usually get. Remember they are almost a Ga school from proximity. And Bruce Pearl can recruit. He beat us out of Austin Wiley, as I recall. Overall, it helps our league that someone else gets to the FF without hurting us if they don’t win.

  41. notFromhere

    Maybe if Auburn had just flopped right there, the refs might have bought it

    1. makeitstop

      U mean the Grant Williams Corollary? “He who falls backward must have been fouled?”

  42. Racerr11

    No Foul before double dribble, not even close.

  43. Underdog

    Proof the NCAA is corrupt is that they refuse to use technology (replay by the official in front of monitor) in closing 2 minutes of a game.

    It’s a no brainer.

    Bad calls calls could be INSTANTLY reviewed and overturned if necessary. There should be no exemptions (like goaltending is now).

    Refs on the floor could have an earpiece for seemless communication.

    There. Is. No. Excuse.

    UNLESS, you want to still have control over the outcome of the game. UNLESS, you are corrupt.

    And officials should be required to answer questions after the game. Shoe them the play and require an acknowledgement of bad calls. This way refs’ reputations can be known to all, and accountability established. Quality refs would be known to all. Humble refs would be known. The arrogant ones would also be exposed.

    Imagine the refs after the Auburn game having to acknowledge they screwed up, and to apologize to the team who lost, buy who would have won.

    Yes, asterisks would be placed on some wins. Life lessons could still be learned by players, coaches, and players.

    But what would happen is that EVERYBODY would know who the best refs were. Poor quality refs would and should be not allowed to ref tournament games, and poor quality refs would eventually and SHOULD be fired.

  44. bbn606

    I know what let’s do. Let’s post the phone number of the ref so the Auburn fans can harass the heck out of him.