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Chad Ford: The Harrison Twins would be in the D-League if they declare this year


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It’s Wednesday, means two things: 1) Ryan Lemond saying “hump day” an uncomfortable amount of times; and 2) Chad Ford’s weekly chat. ESPN’s NBA Insider chatted with readers earlier about the NBA Draft and the pending decisions of several players, including the Harrison Twins. Today, Ford said that if the Twins declare this year, “they are playing in the D-League”:

They are both borderline first round picks right now. Ditto for Dakari Johnson. All of them have potential to go much higher in 2015 if they return to school and if they improve. I think the Harrison twins, especially, have a lot to gain by returning. I don’t think Kentucky’s incoming guards (Devin Booker & Tyler Ulis) could beat them out of a starting job. With Cauley-Stein and Poythress returning and Karl Towns and Trey Lyles joining the team, there is a chance that they are running the best team in the country next year. If they go to the NBA, they are playing in the D-League. Hard to see how that’s a better option for them. I know they have wanted to declare but the feedback from the NBA has been lukewarm at best. They should return, but hard to predict which way this will end up going.

Now, is the the same guy who said James Young was a great passer? Yes. Are the Twins keeping this decision close to their chests? Absolutely. But his argument makes sense. Here’s hoping the Twins come back and improve their stock instead of getting lost in the shuffle of the D-League.

Read Ford’s entire chat here.

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60 responses to “Chad Ford: The Harrison Twins would be in the D-League if they declare this year”

  1. And Twinssssss

    Whichever why they choose to go I think theyve made it very clear that they do not want to come back. They are looking for any opportunity to leave UK even though it is obvious to everyone that it is in their best interest to stay.

    1. L1C6

      If they are looking for every opportunity to leave UK then they will leave UK and go to the D-League. Is that not an opportunity? If that’s what they choose, so be it. If that isn’t what they choose, then they aren’t looking for every opportunity.

    2. L1C6

      any opportunity, rather than every. change the words out, same thing.

    3. raccoon

      I don’t understand what you are saying. Pretty much every player “doesn’t want to come back” because they all want to be drafted into the NBA. It seems like you are reading a lot into nothing here. They are taking time to consider their options which is a smart thing to do. If that doesn’t fit with what you think they should do, well then I guess you should build a bridge and get over it.

    4. Reddington

      That may be true, but we shouldn’t be so quick to believe that because they don’t want to be at UK, this somehow means they have disdain for the university or the Commonwealth. It doesn’t mean they dislike the fans. It may simply mean that they’d rather be playing professionally and want to do so as soon as possible.

      The are suppose to be stone cold killers. We loved it during the tourney run, and they are approaching this deadline the same way. Good for them. Whatever happens, thanks for the great run.

    5. jus sayin

      So because they take their time making a life decision they obviously are looking for any reason to leave? People are silly sometimes.

    6. Al/in/Indy

      I like that……Build a bridge and get over it…..No matter what anyone says, does, know, doesn’t know it’s all up to them. Hopefully they’ll be back if not, I wish them well.

    7. Al/in/Indy

      Why would my comment be awaiting moderation? There’s isn’t one bit of profanity nor derogatory remark in it!

    8. ukbradstith

      Posts randomly await moderation. I’ve posted 100 times on here, 4-5 have come back with that notice, and none have been anything more than a simple reply.

    9. Jomani

      Can’t blame them, the nba is their dream. Imagine having to choose 50/50 if you had to choose between a chance at your dream or waiting another year. Not an easy choice

  2. TN CAT

    Those who stay will be champions.

  3. jus sayin

    2 things about this… First this is likely not true. Most NBA teams like to see if their draft picks can progress in the context of practice first. Few first round picks end up in the DLeaque.

    Second, why is “D leaque” like a derogatory term? Especially in the case of late draft picks… you get sent there because you are probably on a good team that doesn’t need you but they still want you to get reps.

    Obviously playing at UK is better but the d league is not the worst thing to happen if you are assigned there as opposed to being there because you were undrafted.

    A bunch of guys have been sent down and then got called up to be productive.

    1. pr

      Because if you go to end of the first round you go to top tier teams. So rather putting him on the floor, they’re going to send them to the d-league bc they have the talent already. You think if harrisons ger get drafted by the heat or the pacers or okc that those teams would use them?? No they will get sent to the d league. Thats what chad ford is saying…

  4. 2020

    Great thing about those 40-0 shirts… There’s no year on them.

    1. Jughead

      *****crickets*****

    2. Moose

      do you actually know someone who purchased one? doubt it.

  5. Jughead

    Ford’s conclusion may be true, but I have a hard time believing that idiot has any legit inside info. He’s jus a turd who rebroadcasts rumors.

  6. Dear Twins:

    I know it’s a big decision, but nothing is going to change between now and the approaching deadline. You two have received all the information you are going to receive. Cal is a former NBA coach and still has multiple contacts. He personally spoke to GMs concerning the your statuses. He gave you all the information you two needed.

    You are what you are at this point – very late first-round picks or second-rounders. You two are waiting for two NBA GMs to suddenly call and say, ‘You both are mid-first round picks and will be drafted there.’ It’s not going to happen.

    Make a decision, please!

    Sincerely,

    The Entire Fan Base

    1. reason

      Yes make the biggest decision of your lives on our timeline!

    2. DAKARI STOOPS

      Hey….Your talking to my guys all wrong. It’s the wrong tone. Happens again BBN will take you out with a soldering iron

    3. Marty Franklin

      Speak for yourself, not the entire fan base. There is no bigger fan than me but give the young men a break. It’s a very important decision that will affect the rest of their lives. Sounds like you should get a life and quit fretting about what a teenager is going to do with his. It’s a long time until basketball season,they should take all the available time they have.

  7. Facts

    Why does Matt and this site constantly bash Chad Ford and his analysis when it is bad news but then constantly post his stuff when it supports their views. Also Matt and this site continually post how they don’t believe any reporting on the Harrisons and their decision but yet constantly post stuff about the Harrisons and their decisions.

    1. tltaworl

      Because Chad has a tendency to not appear as the greatest basketball expert (ie. James Young passing). But this article is not about inside info infact look at the last line of Ford’s quote: They should return, but hard to predict which way this will end up going.” So just calm down there pussy cat and enjoy the ride.

    2. Hits

      bc it gets ppl to talk on the site, which generates revenue. How crazy of them, they should stop that immediately!

    3. Facts

      ^ Chad Ford generates revenue for this site? Man, this site constantly talks about the NCAA exploiting players for revenue, sounds like this site exploits Chad Ford. If that’s the case maybe this site should practice what they preach and pay Chad Ford.

    4. CousinDeke

      That comment is one of the more dumber things I’ve read in at least a week… Mad props to you, “Facts”… carry on.

    5. Jatt Mones

      Yes it is true, I hate Fhad Cord. He’s always wrong and I have never been wrong. 38-2

  8. Reality

    D-League rookies make $13,000. That’s poverty. Why leave UK, where you are a rock star with free lodging and food for $13,000 per year? Develop more in college and let the girls drool over you. Improve your stock and sign for millions next year.

    1. False

      That’s not true. Those are the people drafted directly in to the D Leaque. The Twins wouldn’t be in that category. They would still be on the NBA rookie contract IF they got sent down which is not necessarily the case. I actually doubt it would

    2. SCOT

      wrong false, only first rounders are guaranteed contracts.

    3. Grammar King

      This is why it makes sense, if they really want to begin playing professionally that badly:

      “In addition to the modest salary, there are other varied perks. The D-League teams do in fact pay for player housing, provide certain benefits, and grant each of their players a $40 per-diem for food, etc.” (from “Examining the (Low) Pay of NBA D-League Players By Keith Schlosser@KnicksJournal on May 3 2013, 12:00p)

      I’d say that, with housing, a per diem, and “other certain benefits,” that $17,000 a year more likely ends up as a $30,000-40,000 a year job.

    4. False

      SCOT, you are right about the guaranteed contract but assuming they got drafted and made the team and were sent down they would still be making the NBA minimum which was 490,180 last time I checked.

    5. Actual NBA writer

      Most of what I have seen here about the developmental leaque is inaccurate. Like False said, there is a BIG difference between the players in the D Leaque who were sent down from the show in comparison to the ones who were undrafted. They former make great money.

    6. Really?

      Actual NBA writer, I find it hard to believe someone who really writes for the NBA would spell league with a q which you did twice. Once would have been a simple error. Twice indicates incompetence and no one who is a real NBA writer would spell the word league “leaque”. That word would be used all the time in your writing and you would have been corrected long ago. Nice try though.

    7. Actual NBA Writer

      Haha so I did. Actually I misspell “league” and “banana” quite frequently (old habits), especially when I’m not editing them. Wasn’t trying to win an award. Hell it puts a squiggly line under it if you spell it wrong. Didn’t know I was in school still…But I graduated from UK so attack my competence if you like…

      Regardless, this is what we call an “Ad Hominem”. You couldn’t find fault with my argument so instead you attacked something else that was irrelevant to the greater point. Good job though. That tactic typically works. Ask any politician.

      Point remains though, a fairly significant percentage of D League makes at least over $100,000

  9. L1C6

    Yesterday you claimed to be a Duke fan but your grammar just outed you as a Tard. “then the d leauge”…it’s than, dumb a$$

    1. L1C6

      ah deleted the comment, now my comment is random.

  10. no

    Just because people tell them they should come back doesn’t mean they should. I know NBA scouts they tell people to return and get better all the time. And when they do… they draft 8 or 9 picks lower.

  11. SP

    They would get much more experience playing another season in college than in the D-League. The D-League is crap. They are playing glorified scrimmage games in hollow arenas in front of dozens of spectators. They need to be playing in pressure packed games night in and night out to further their basketball skills and grow as floor leaders…which is what they would get with another year at UK.

  12. Thomas M. Edelen

    Cal misused the Twins all year and did not properly showcase their skills. If I were them, I’d bolt for the D-League and take the money!

    1. SCOT

      not all year, perhaps you didn’t notice the tweak. if it were me I would rather play another year at any division 1 school than the d league. but that just me speaking from the heart, and not some louisville fan trying to inject myself into a conversation about the team they fear.

  13. Jackie

    Tyle Ulis will beat out Andrew for the starting PG position by the start of SEC play.

    1. SCOT

      tyler is good, but he is a 4 year guy all the way. he will be scary by his 3rd and 4th season. unfortunately his size will keep him out of the league. he will be a most outstanding backup to Andrew though and the experience he gains in practice will be better than starting this year.

    2. Jordan

      The twins were Cal’s babies. I personally think it was obvious that no matter what mistakes were made, he left them in the game, but immediately pulls Alex or Marcus out for no reason other than “not hustling enough”. I think if they come back, Cal will keep Andrew the starter no matter how much Ulis improves, only to let him know that he didn’t come back to sit on the bench, and I’m sure Cal wants to help the twins out in every way if they are willing to return. I love Cal and my cats, and he may not gaurantee minutes but he does have his favorites

    3. pr

      How will ulis size keep him out. Need I mention spudwebb, earl boykin, ty lawson, I could go on… game has changed he will go to the league if hes good enough.

    4. Delk for 3

      i — Ulis’s height will be definitely be a obstacle to him making the NBA, but I wouldn’t count him out just yet. If the kid is good enough, he will make the NBA regardless of size. He plays a position where his size can be overlooked if he is a fabulous floor general.

    5. Mc

      I would say a good comparison now would be Isaiah Thomas of the Kings.

  14. Another Dumb Opinion

    Inside sources tell me that the Twins will return to UK, but are trying to decide whether to switch to the swim team.

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  16. brian

    Whatever the Harrisons decide UK will be a force to be reckoned with…

  17. JustSayin

    We can bash and make fun of Chad Ford but we know he is probably right. No guarantee of first round for them. If they go in 2nd round no guaranteed deal and there becomes a decent chance of D league. The Harrisons are bound to know this but i fear that they are looking for some guarantee or wink from a team so that they can declare, which is too bad.

    I understand Randle. But if you are not an elite player in college stay and develop and get closer to your degree. Then you are better able to handle the PROs. I love Randle but I know they’ll be times next year when he says “Holy Sh*t I wish I were back at UK”. The NBA is a man’s league and a job, a far cry from college.

  18. bobolopolis

    It basically boils down to the Harrisons wanting to improve in the D-league with other nba prospects and be just a guy, or if they want to forgo a years pay improve at UK and be a hero.

    The Harrisons can improve their stock mightily if they come back and make that money back with a higher draft selection next year.

  19. kybigblue

    The D league has been good for a number of players now in the NBA like Terrance Jones. In the D league you can concentrate just on developing your basketball skills. Not sure there is a right answer. Either way they are going to have to improve their skills to play in the NBA.

    1. Megan

      I am unfamiliar with D league. But I assume Chad Ford knows something about it. And if he doesn’t see how it’s a better option for the Harrisons, his opinion should carry some weight.

      At the last press conference, someone asked Cal whether it would be better to develop in the D league than in college, and he said the reporter should ask players who’ve been in the D league. I wish someone would, because I would love to hear their perspective on this.

      Cal went on to say that a player wouldn’t be wasting his time returning to play for him. That sounds like quite the understatement. GMs have told Cal how his players need to improve. And you better believe he has their backs.

  20. Peachtree E

    D League is a joke….NBA fanatics can say what they will….two D-Leaguers are playing in the NBA. It simply isn’t an option for the twins if they want the all important second contract. The biggest problem is getting enough playing time back in a Blue Nation to have next years draft offer them something better. While it provides great excitement to think about all the returnees along with the newbies coming in, we have a lot of guys needing to show-case for the draft…next year may be Cal’s most challenging!

  21. UKkathy

    I guess, first, I am selfish, as I love love the twins. Even in the down times this past season, I was pulling for them with each play; thinking the next one will be better, it will work. This must be a most difficult decision for them; but my selfishness aside, I think it is for their own good to return one more year. I think they will be fabulous and their stock will increase tremendously. And it’s apparent they love each other very much and enjoy playing together as they have their entire lives. And you are only young once and this will be the last time they will be together on a team. A tough transition. It seems their father is the main one who wants them to go; and of course, the young men listen to father, in addition to their life-long dreams. But if they can just step back and see the entire picture, objectively, they should realize that one more year at UK absolutely cannot hurt them and can only improve their stock. And with the wealth of talent on next year’s team and with several upperclassmen; gracious, bring on #9. Whatever their decision, I wish them the best. I hope they never forget that to the BBN (and not the few morons who spoke ill of them) they are one of us, our family, now and forever. Good luck guys, and GO CATS!

  22. HairyCatFan

    The Twins will decide by the deadline, meanwhile we all have some fodder to chew on. Off season hi’s and low’s on the 24/7 BBN news feed. As guards, both point and shooting, there is no better prep- than The UK program. Exposure, practice in dealing with the ‘needy’ media, presses etc, practice at fending off the parasitic hangers on, huge in-game pressure…yeah, to go to the D league is not a comp option. But I can see where they get the poker face ice ice in d vein baby MOperendi. Either way, I’m good, either way UK is gonna b awesome, but with these two, (assuming they get their heads right), almost unbeatable.

  23. TheNaughtyProf

    As a CANADIAN, I’ve watched the twins ALL season… I’ve been a big fan of The Big Blue Nation since the early days of Sam Bowie & Melvin Turpin… My BEST MOMENTS: Championships under Pitino & Tubby Smith…. Delk’s 3′s, Freshman sensation Ron Mercer…….. Bona dude superstar Antoine Walker and of course Scott Padgett who flat out shot the lights out! Shoulda been a 3-peat tho (smh Miles Simon was nothing in comparison to these stars). Anyways, my point is this: I saw the Harrison twins: Aaron (work on his jump shot even more and slashing post moves. I actually think Glenn Robinson III us a dar better wingman/#2 guard). Andrew needs a lot of work on his handle…. His ball handling skills are sub par, when compared to guys like Marcus Smart, Napier and others. He was schooled at the guard position in the championship game, and on many instances, he looked out of his element, when Napier and Boatright pressured him(like a frightened pup)…

    Growth and progress is NEVER a bad thing…. I.M.O of course…..

  24. TheNaughtyProf

    *Bona fide (I meant) superstar Antoine Walker…….