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I’m going to steal a little space here for some non-UK related material that breaks my heart. I know it’s probably right, but it hurts all the same. Griffey is leaving the Reds. Somewhere, deep down inside, I always hoped that things would finally come together and the Reds could get things rolling in the right direction with the sweetest swing in the game. Sorry. I’ll go mourn to myself now.
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July 31st, 2008 at 12:08 pm
this is long overdue
July 31st, 2008 at 12:09 pm
it sucks that the are paying for him to play in chicago
July 31st, 2008 at 12:11 pm
every reds fan wanted it to work….but im glad he’s gone
July 31st, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Griffey has been great for the game and I’m certain his 600 plus homers have come without anadrol or any other roid, but his time has LONG been gone. He should hang up his cleats. In the meantime, I hope the REDS get at least 2 or 3 good pitchers in exchange for Griffey.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:19 pm
It will be sad to see the Reds w/o 3. I love Griffey. I hoped he would retire a Red.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:21 pm
If they were gonna trade Griffey, they should have kept Hamilton.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Horrible deal for the Sox, the guy can’t play center anymore, but they didn’t give up much and paying half his salary to boot. Nice deal Cincy, HA!
July 31st, 2008 at 12:26 pm
#6, totally agree.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:29 pm
It’s bad when the Marlins and Rockies can make it to the World Series.
The organization have failed Jr. and the fans.
I predict Sean Casey will end up back with the Reds before the season is over.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Beisner, I’m with you. It’s the right call, unfortunately. The sad truth is that Jr.’s now just an aging slugger, he’ll kick around from team to team for a little while more, but his best is behind him. His throat-cutting motion to the Cowboy in the announcer’s booth this past week didn’t help hide his feelings that he thinks it’s time to go too. At least we got a boost from him, if not what we wanted during his long time in Cincy.
5 Star — however, I hope to God you’re right about the Mayor. I have such a mancrush on that guy. He’s beloved here.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:34 pm
6) Hamilton was traded because Bruce was going to be called up this year and getting Volquez has turned out to be a pretty good deal..The Reds still have some outfield options in the minors with Dickerson and Stubbs, but I would love to have seen an outfield with Dunn, Hamilton, and Bruce. That would be scary. Griffey will be missed but it was time for this to happen.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:36 pm
The last thing the Reds need is Sean “6-4-3 DP” Casey. The Reds needed to get some good pitching prospects like they did in the Hamilton trade (Volquez).
July 31st, 2008 at 12:41 pm
I’ve been a redleg since the day I was born, but I have to tell you that this ish is getting old!!!! The next time we trade and get squat out of it other than freeing up money I am going to puke. We gave up an All-Star and a young rightfielder for a 36 yr. old SS, a minor league pitcher, a minor league infielder, and two bum relievers, one of which we traded the next year, AND NOW WE THIS!!!! We just traded a future Hall of Famer, who not to mention is a Hometown Hero, for a back up short stop and a set up man with a 4+ ERA???????? Plus we still are going to pay half of his Contract for this year!!!!!!!
July 31st, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Good one #12. The Mayor was well-liked but, his time to has past.
His batting routine always reminded of a cat scratching in a litter box before it decides to take a dump.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:47 pm
I’m a life long Reds fan. I remember the Big Red Machine of the 70’s. But I think it was time for the Reds and Jr to part ways. His best days are certainly behind him. He doesn’t quite have the bat speed he used to or be able to cover ground in the OF like he once did. I’m happy that he went to a contender with a chance to get to the playoffs and WS. But even still, you have to wonder “what if” it weren’t for all those injuries. He’d be over 700 HR’s by now easily and closing in on Bonds.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:49 pm
13) What has that “All-Star and young rightfielder” done lately?
And what did you expect to get in exchange for a 38-year old with bum hamstrings and a .240 average who expects to hit in the 3-hole every night?
July 31st, 2008 at 12:52 pm
going to the reds was the worst thing that ever happened to both the team and griffey jr. the period can only be seen as a failure. maybe it was god’s punishment for rose.
hopefully for griffey he can emerge from this, being as he has basically fallen off the map overshadowed by mcguire bonds sosa etc. he was and still is the best “no Juice” homerum hitter ever.
July 31st, 2008 at 12:54 pm
I’m happy for Griffey that he can go to a competitive team and possibly compete for a World Series but Cinnci just lost what brought the fans in. I live in Lexington and a huge Braves fan but I enjoy the Reds, so I was gonna make the trip up there to watch the Reds play before school starts. Not now. Griffey’s gone! I am glad that the got somthing in return for him. They better go spend money in the off season or it will again be another long year for cinnci. And that same message goes to Atlanta who needs to spend more money and of course stay healthy.. So in the mean time. Go Tampa!
July 31st, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Two key problems with him:
1. He was at one time a good player, but he was never a great player, yet the image was built of him being a great player, and those expectations then existed.
2. He has not been truly healthy for years.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:02 pm
18) totally agree. who are fans gonna pay to see now? Dunn? Phillips? sad goodbye to a hall of famer.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:07 pm
19.
Never a great player? If Junior Stays healthy, He is the BEST to ever play the game. We would have no drama in steroids because he played the game the right way. You wouldn’t have to worry about a symbol by Bonds record because Griffey would have owned that. I’m saying all this if Griffey would have been limited to injuries. A good player not a great? Yeah right. He’s near the top of the best who played the game.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:16 pm
I like Griffey, but he never produced for the Reds. He and Dunn were/are both liabilities in the field, and the homeruns just distract people from the fact that neither have led the team in BA over the past five years, and neither have sniffed anything over .300 in a long time. Granted, their OPS stats are good, but once they’re on base, so what? They’re no threat to steal, and too big/old to run the bases well.
The Reds need to spend some freaking money on actual talent, not perceived talent. Get rid of Dunn next and pick up someone, anyone, who can actually hit NL pitching. PLEASE.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Griffey may have put the butts in the seats, but the team hasn’t been to the post-season since he was signed. I’ll take a competitive team full of no-names that hustle (something Cincinnatians can identify with) over a team of slacking over-the-hill greats anyday.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:21 pm
19, I’ve seen a lot of ridiculous statements on various boards over time, but that post was easily in the top 10. Griffey never a great player? You’re talking about a 5 tool player who in the 90’s won numerous gold gloves, was consistently a 35 to 45 homer power hitter, drove in 100 runs year in and year out, and ultimately brought fans back to the game of baseball. Without Griffey in the 90s, baseball is not the same today. Constant injuries derailed his career, but he is still easily a first ballot Hall of Famer.
And to 22, I agree, pitch Dunn to the curb and get a outfielder who can actually make contact with the ball 9 out of 10 at bats. Rather than striking out 1 out of every 3.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:27 pm
19 i agree with 24….just plain dumb but you are entitled to an opionion i guess.In his prime he was probably one of the top 10 to ever play the game.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:27 pm
22) There are two parts to OPS. On-base-percentage and slugging. Dunn is a VERY selective hitter on a team that has waaaaaaay too many guys who offer at the first pitch every time (see Corey patterson et al).
24) Dunn is the major league leader in home runs. Also, most homers of anyone in the majors in the last 5 years if I remember correctly. Don’t dwell on the strikeouts or low batting average. Studies have repeatedly shown that strike outs have NO negative correlation with run production. Look it up.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:27 pm
I just wish the Cubbies could have picked him up.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:34 pm
@JaredCarterStoleMyBlackberry: I understand the slugging half of the equation. I also think that calling Dunn a “selective” hitter is like calling William Hung a “selective” singer.
July 31st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Well I will say a .243 average has a negative correlation with run production. Either way, get someone who wouldn’t DH in the AL to play the outfield and can actually move runners around.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:09 pm
19) That’s easily the worst thing I’ve ever heard on this board. Griffey not a great player?!?!?!?!? Even with his chronic injury plagued seasons toward the end of his career, he’s top 10 all time! If not for the injuries, easily could have seen him go on to be the best player ever. He’s the kid with the swing. Don’t ever forget it.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
26) agree on all points about Dunn. Ryan Howard is a similiar type player and I would take him on my team all day. Corey Outterson is terrible and can’t wait to get him off the team after this year. Reds need to re-sign Dunn and maybe leave Bruce in CF and somehow move Votto to OF and find another 1B. At least the Reds have some money to work with now.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
28) Dunn leads the National League in walks. I would be curious to know how you define selective hitting. All players aren’t built the same. Yes, the Reds wouldn’t want to play with 8 Adam Dunn’s in the field. But Dunn is a power hitter who produces runs and he does that as well as anyone in the National League.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
If it wasn’t for the numerous injuries…Grifey would be the home run KING right now
July 31st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Griffey…sorry I left out an F
July 31st, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Griffey was the man back in the day. If not for all the juicers and possibly with a little more desire to workout, and not so many injuries he would be the homerun king. Maybe he goes and dh’s for a while. Still the most beautiful swing that I have ever seen. It will be odd seeing him as a White Sox player.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
I am going to my yearly game Tuesday. I will miss Junior. Being a Reds fan is hard enough. But, at least I got to watch a future HOF player, even if past his prime. Here’s hoping Dunn continues his torrid hitting and leads the league in HRs. And, maybe we can make a run in the next few years.
July 31st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Dunn sees more pitches per ABs than any other player on the team.. I call that a selective hitter. Now, more than ever, we need to resign him. Jr. is still a good player, but we didn’t get squat for him in that trade.
July 31st, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Screw baseball! This is the worst time of year every year.
That aside, good luck Jr., and c’mon pigskin!
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