Kentucky Sports Radio
[Moderated by Matt Jones]
[Moderated by Matt Jones]
I am an attorney. That much you probably know. What you dont probably know is that with few exceptions (my mother, Johnny “The” Bruce, the boys (and Vanessa) at Bahe, Cook, Cantley, a few of my old FBT colleagues and those of you who have my phone number) I do my best not to hang with lawyers. They are in general, a pretty boring and at times, infuriating bunch. But, we can say one thing for them. The ones in Kentucky that are UK fans are dedicated UK fans. Case in point, this story from a legal blog this week.
Apparently, the folks at Northern Kentucky’s Law School (Chase) decided to schedule a professionalism conference during UK’s NCAA Tournament game. Now think about that for a minute. You are in the state of KENTUCKY…where basketball is king. How in the world could you believe that holding ANY event on the Thursday night of the best four days of the year (the first and second rounds of the NCAA Tournament) was a good idea? Professionalism or not, that is simply poor planning and shows the shortsightedness of those in my dork-filled profession.
So what do the great NKU students do? Oh yes, they show their true UK spirit by watching the game on their computers and iPhones during the lecture. Good for you…we must have priorities in society and you have yours correct. But the powers that be at NKU were not happy and Lawrence Rosenthal (pictured above in all his grandeur) sent out this student body message:
Dear First-year Students:
It was good to see all of you at last night’s professionalism program. After reading many of the comment sheets, it seems that most of you enjoyed it. This, of course, I was happy to learn.
I was not, however, particularly pleased with some of the behavior I witnessed last night. Most students were paying attention to what our speakers were saying, and I commend those students for behaving in an appropriate, professional manner. However, I noticed several students, both men and women, watching the NCAA tournament on their laptops; constantly looking down at their iPhones or other electronic devices; and texting messages to fellow classmates or to people not at the presentation.
While I understand that people are interested in the NCAA basketball tournament, and that they might not have agreed with the viewpoints expressed by the speakers, this conduct was patently rude and inexcusable. The ironic thing about this situation is that these presentations were supposed to teach students about “professionalism,” and I could not think of any behavior less professional than what I saw last night. Would you act this way in front of a judge? Would you act this way in front of a client? I can only hope the answer is “no.”
We all have things we would rather be doing at certain times (for example, I would rather be watching the Union / St. Lawrence hockey game tonight than teaching a make-up class), but as a professional, I know that my responsibilities as a faculty member and administrator come before my desire to watch the game. I know that when my class is over, I will be able to find out who won. Similarly, all of you would have been able to see the results of the basketball games after the 1.25-hour presentation last night. I don’t think there would have been any significant consequences had you actually listened to the entire presentation rather than focus on your iPhones, your laptops, and your other electronic devices.
Thankfully, I do not think that the speakers were able to see what was going on in the audience. That does not, however, make rude behavior any less unprofessional. I can only hope that as you progress throughout your law school careers, you will learn what “professionalism” truly means.
Lawrence D. Rosenthal
Associate Dean for Academics
NKU – Chase College of Law
Oh Lawrence…how misguided are thee? You must not be from around these parts. You ask if the students would act this way in front of a judge or client, but if you were familiar with the state in which you teach, you would know that no judge, attorney or client would EVER schedule an appearance during a UK game. The first rule of being a strong advocate is to know your audience and in this state, basketball comes first. In order to teach “professionalism”, isnt it first important to have some notion of your surroundings and the world in which your future students will inhabit. Having looked at your biography on the NKU website, it seems that you have been an academic since the day you graduated law school and have never practiced in this state. Fair enough…but I would have hoped your Georgetown/Vandy education would have at least give you SOME indication that knowing your surroundings and having some perspective outside of your Prosser on Torts treatise would be beneficial.
But lets not act like Lawrence is a stuck in the mud. He likes to have fun too. He mentions in his letter that he wishes he could be watching his beloved “Union-St. Lawrence hockey” match, but a makeup class awaits. Now one might first wonder what channel in Kentucky shows upstate New York small college hockey (possibly the “Atrociously Boring Channel”), but if there is one, Lawrence will be there…but ONLY if he doesnt have a class. Lawrence likes fun as much as the next chap, but not at the expense of a good lecture.
Look, I am a fan of Chase Law School and NKU. My mom went there, one of our writers goes there and I am told there is a strong KSR fanbase there. But my man Lawrence and the NKU staff needs a little perspective. This is KENTUCKY and this is the NCAA TOURNAMENT. There wasnt going to be one thing said at that lecture that couldnt have been saved for another day. But seeing Boogie dunk on a random ETSU/Wake Forest/Cornell player…well that Lawrence, lasts a lifetime.
And by the way Lawrence, Union-St Lawrencesportsradio.com has all the info you need about the “Thrilla in Vanilla” you missed for the class.
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March 22nd, 2010 at 3:37 pm
1st
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:40 pm
NKU= concrete U
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:40 pm
nerds.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:42 pm
What about Peter T. Matt? he’s a lawyer and we hung the other night.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:45 pm
He obviously has no clue what basketball means to the state of Kentucky.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:46 pm
I’m not. Pete is.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Where can we contact this dork to put him n his place
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Living in NKy I am not shocked by this. Although the majority living here in Kenton, Campbell, and Boone are Cat fans the general media still give all the love to Xavier, UC, and OSU (ugh). I have said it all along we are bombarded by the Cincy element…I still regularly watch WKYT news up here to get the UK scoop, interviews, etc that the Cincy news stations don’t report…but KSR is still my number 1 news source!
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Union-St.Lawrencesportsradio.com ROCKS!!!!
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Just for the record. I went to UK for undergrad and Chase for law school. I agree 100% with Mr. Jones that I NEVER want to hang out with those who I attended school with or who taught me at law school. Just total losers. Secondly, Rosenthal was the biggest nerd/jerk teacher I have ever had at any level. Every student hated him.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Bigger dorks? CPA convention or Law convention?
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:50 pm
As an attorney, I can vouch for what Matt said. Other than my buddies from law school, most of whom are still in Lexington (I’m in N. KY and drive past NKU daily), I do not like to spend time with attorneys. Heck, I don’t even like to be alone with myself.
As for a law school disregarding the tourney, law schools try to become a society unto themselves with little regard for what’s going on outside the ivy covered walls. That, and 1Ls are for whipping, which may be why my class bought the UK Law Foosball table. Yes, my name is on the old, tarnished plaque, 2nd from bottom, left column (if memory serves).
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Bunch of antisemites. Don’t worry Larry they probably called Moses a jerk too when he called people out for not paying attention during the Law readings.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Would be ashamed. He is a huge Patrick Patterson fan.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:52 pm
He’ll be at that conference ALONE.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:53 pm
I remember law school. That was three years I lost total track of UK sports.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Folderol, Mr. Jones! All the good citizens of this fair state acknowledge with utmost respect the annual be-iced tilt between the rascals and ne’er-do-wells of Union and the right and honorable Saint Lawrence Saints, at which women are forbidden and men must wear their finest top hats, tails and monocles. Ah yes, the 2006 game was one for the ages, with Wm. “Straight Shooter” McCarran VII valiantly holding forth in the crease and withstanding all the puckerations that Union could muster. This “basket-ball” you speak of mayn’t be compared to such collegiate athleticery.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:54 pm
douche
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:55 pm
18 - nice!
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:57 pm
I bet Eric C. Conn wouldn’t have scheduled class.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:57 pm
That is why John McGarvey was the greatest professor at UK Law school. Cancelled every one of his Secured Transactions classes (5-7 Tuesdays and Thursdays) that conflicted with a UK game. Its called priorities, Lawrence…
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Day one of the tournament my second or third year of law school, class ended and none of the normal males (if you’ve ever been to law school, you know what I mean by normal males) got out of our seats. Last second game, I forget who, of course we were all watching during class, and the professor, who was by far one of the coolest profs I’ve ever had doesn’t get offended. Instead he says what’s the score, and hurries to a laptop himself.
It’s a defenite you had to be there or you’ve had to be in law school moment, but it was great. I agree whole heartedly Matt, UK comes first.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:57 pm
He should have written a letter congratulating any student who showed up at all given the circumstances. Any student who attended any class at any university on Thursday or Friday is Superman to me. I don’t think Lawrence would be on my list of “Who I Would Most Like to Have a Beer With”.
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:58 pm
big brother must be monitoring this website as the real #18 was deleted
March 22nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Law school is three years of my life I would like to have back.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:00 pm
I ma currently in Law School (thank God not at Chase) and this is just the way law school prof’s are and is a microcosm of the lawyering society. Most people at law school either gave up their human card b4 they got through the door or give it up soon afterwards. Its why clients and lawyers have such Icy relationships. Most of the people who will make intelligent lawyers are as interesting and understanding as death (sp?) and sadly most of the rest are stupid parties who don’t belong within 500 ft of a institution of learning. Only the rare and the brave have a life and know what they are doing. If you find such a lawyer (i am sure Matt is a likely candidate but it is difficult to be SURE about these matters) hang on to him dearly.
Matt, the part about not hanging with lawyers, I could not agree more.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
I don’t even like being in the comments section with all these law nerds. Who knew?
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Mr. Rosenthal must’ve just had that picture taken when his cat was gang banged by the evil St.Lawrence River Rats…I say Buffy!
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Perhaps this little tidbit will help to enlighten you, Matthew Jones Esquire. Back in the day when Lawrence was a 7th grader he played D league club hockey and averaged .02 assists per game, could solve a Pyraminx in a shade under 25 minutes and dated Shannon McGillicutty, yes “THE Shannon McGillicutty”. Well, she checked yes on a note that he wrote out and awkwardly folded but that didn’t last because Gary Thompson also liked her and he had played lacrosse. During all of that his teammates called him Law-Ro and and he obtained mad street cred not to mention a white belt in Tae Kwan Doe.
Fear the Law-Ro enough said
Peace
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Lighten up, Larry
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:04 pm
rosenthall@nku.edu
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Matt you’re a bundle of contradictions:
- hate Duke but went to Duke law school
- hate U of L but live in Looey-ville
- don’t like to listen to sports radio, but like to DO sports radio
- don’t like to hang with lawyers, but you’re a lawyer
Did I leave anything out?
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Bahe and Cook. Would that be John Bahe and Brian Cook? Ahh, the olde Centre days….
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:04 pm
I will go toe to toe with you on bird law any day Jones!
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:05 pm
I take it that Mr. Rosenthal has never did the John Wall dance?
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:05 pm
The one glaring difference between Mr. Rosenthal and his students… One of them is PAID to be at a certain place at a certain time… the other(s) PAY to be at a certain place at a certain time. And in a free society, those PAYING can do whatever they please in that certain time and place, as long as it does not affect the choice of others present.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:06 pm
looks like Pat has a brother….
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Fourth tier + forbidding UK Basketball = Suck
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Note to Mr. Rosenthal. Don’t schedule any lectures that conflict with Reds’ Opening Day. Students actually showing up with an electronic devise will be the least of your worries.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:09 pm
I am a recent Chase grad and can tell you that Frozenbalz is a Vandy fan so its not hard to believe that he does not understand what being a fan of any sport means. Not to mention, Frozenbalz once gave a deadline in a legal writing class that fell on Easter and reufsed to extend the deadline until the next day. His reasoning was that he was of another faith and did not care about Easter. I admit he was at least somewhat joking but the deadline was not extended. Take that for what its worth.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Has a link to the clip of Orton taking up for Cousins been posted. I was at the game but didn’t have seats as close as Ashley so I could only see what looked like that dude hit Cuz with an elbow and then went back in to hit him and Orton pushed the dude out of the coliseum and over a couple of blocks onto Canal Street.lol
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:09 pm
don’t know if anyone has posted this, but Memphis was denied in its attempt to reverse the NCAA’s invalidation of last season’s wins
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:10 pm
I’m sensing Double Secret Probation for the first year law students at NKU.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
26) - you’re in law school and you aren’t sure how to spell “death”? I’m sure Chase is thanking God you aren’t in their law school either.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Lawrence is definitly basketball ready in his proteges for only $19.99
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Ironic that two out of three alma-maters, (Vandy and Georgetown) made the tournament and were upset in the first round. Not to mention, the butt-pounding the CATS put on Vandy during the regular season. Jealousy is not Professional Mr. Rosenthal.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:13 pm
34)Nice
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Well, I agree with…Rosenthal. Schools schedule guest speakers sometimes six months or a year in advance, and they are often confined to dates that work with the speaker (who should be very busy if he is any good) and other events hosted by the school. Thus, there is probably no way NKU could have planned for the UK game being held exactly at this date and time so long in advance.
And the irony that the topic was “professionalism” is a good one. Sometimes, your job prevents you from doing things you want to do, and if a student (these are not even undergrads, mind you) show up to an event, they should not be overtly rude.
Matt, you’ve lucked into a pretty good gig where your UK fandom is becoming your actual career. For most people, particularly those in a professional school, the sooner they learn to act like an adult the better.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Do you really make students, who live in the great state of Kentucky, actually go to a lecture during March Madness? This is absolutely absurd. You are the one who seems to be lacking professionalism. Would you schedule a meeting with a Christian on Christmas? Would you schedule a meeting with a Jew on Hanakkuh? How about scheduling a meeting with a Presidential candidate on election day? You need to learn to cater to your peers my good sir. Are you going to get upset if 800 students show up at your house on your birthday to ask you law questions?…of course you are going to get upset. That is…unless…you don’t have a life and would just be happy having someone at your house. Come to think of it you most likely wouldn’t be offended.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:18 pm
#48 Any idiot know what dates the NCAA tournament tend to fall on. Do you think he would schedule a lecture during the World Series if he was in New York and the Yankees were in the World Series?? I think not.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:19 pm
I really don’t like a lot of professional academia people. I had some great teachers at Transy, but people who spend their whole lives within universities and then lecture people about how they should live their lives always annoy me.
And on professionalism in particular, as someone who has listened to many, many depositions, I will say that many lawyers aren’t so professional. Snide, arrogant and dismissive are more appropriate terms to use when discussing attorneys.
Also, apparently you can check the score of a game afterward and you get just as much enjoyment as watching the game. On the other hand, there’s no way you could read a book or check out a website to learn about professionalism. For that you have to listen to a speaker at a lecture.
If the lecture was anything like some I’ve been to, the speakers were just reading notes from their own books/recycling the same dialogue they give at any speaking engagement.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:19 pm
I have that same tie, got it on sale at Men’s Wearhouse.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Why was I deleted???
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:21 pm
#49–I think you should have re-thought your comment about not having a life. Sounds to me like that would make two of you…
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
#54-Says the guy who wasted a few seconds of his life to reprimand the person who he “thinks” doesn’t have a life. Get Owned!
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
What a dork!
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
48) Yeah, act like an adult. Life is supposed to be hard and depressing and you’re supposed to do whatever other people think you should do because other people matter more than you. Those few people who are fortunate enough to enjoy their work should keep quite and stop encouraging people to enjoy life. There’s too much work and responsibility to deal with to even smile during the day, unless you’re being complimented by your boss or a customer.
What exactly do you look forward to with all your hard work and professionalism?
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:24 pm
To quote the prosecuting attorney from the courtroom scene in “Idiocracy”: “Number one, your honour, Just look at him.”
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:24 pm
That picture does remind me of my Poor old unka Ernie…..You always knew when Unka Ernie would have SBD gas attack……he’d smile just like that, then the room would clear out!
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:28 pm
I graduated from Chase last year. I like Rosenthal. He was present at a seminar I was the featured speaker on about giving advice to 1L’s about what classes to take their second year and he just laughed when I stated that Prof. Fred Schneider was an ass, which he is. He could have busted me out for that but just laughed about it.
I am sure he scheduled this seminar well in advance. Usually such seminars are scheduled 3-4 months in advance minimum. I also understand that it is embarassing for him to have lined up speakers who are giving of their own free time to come speak to students and have those students looking for scores. He could have mediated by giving the UK score every 15 minutes or so. The seminar was probably a requirement for 1L’s who are going into their first summer of begging for a legal job somewhere.
The bigger issue for me with Chase is they know the job market is the worst it has been since the Depression and they take in their largest 1L class ever????
And don’t email him. That’s a stupid move.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:28 pm
On behalf of my entire Family Law class at Chase, I’d like to thank you for making it bearable, KSR! Go Cats!
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
He obviously didn’t care enough about that game either. It was on Friday, St Lawrence lost. Ky didn’t even play on Friday.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Matt, you certainly put the smack down on Lawrence. Cornell next?
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:31 pm
What #60 said!!!
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:31 pm
3 fan,
How is it going in your part of the state? I must say that our days of living on KSR and catspause in class are prime examples of how bad law school could be at times.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:32 pm
I’m a university prof, and any class which ends up presenting a time conflict with a UK NCAA Tourney game (not an impossible scenario when considering that I’m on Seoul time) will be cancelled. Period. Not up for debate. How’s that for professionalism Rosenthal?
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Matt,
Why dont you put BOOM at the end of something like that.
BOOM!
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Maybe he should strive to make the subject matter more interesting than the competing interest?
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:39 pm
48 - Get off your high horse. Being a part of society, and taking into consideration the interests and desires of the students is “adult” too. This is becoming a nerd fight, but be serious. Its an asenine law school lecture. If you went to law school, you’d know any lecture they put on will be pointless and the information can be disseminated on a 3×5 for you to read in a minute.
This is a guy who wants to maintain HIS image and enjoys the little power he has to do so.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:41 pm
It should come as a surprise to no one to learn that Lawrence is a Vandy man. Clearly still bitter over the Murray loss.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:49 pm
As an attorney I completely agree with the statements regarding not hanging out with other attorneys.
If I were still in law school, I would be watching the games/checking scores/getting sports updates on my computer as I, and most of the other students, did throughout our three years. Most of my classmates were on KSR or another UK sports news site for the majority of their law school careers.
GO CATS!!
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
65, busy busy busy. I am surprised at how fast things pile up. But very thankful to have a job in this environment.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
The attorneys are jumping out of the bushes. I must note, however, that I am an attorney in Lexington and had to be in Motion Hour Friday before last when UK played Alabama in the SEC tournament. And the Judge is a UK football letterman.
March 22nd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
I got fired from a station in New Mexico once for farting on the set. It was hot there and we were allowed to wear shorts. Lawrence unsuccessully argued that my colitis should allow ADA protection. How much more professional can you be than standing up for the farters of teh world??? I’m just a little miffed I wasn’t referenced in his journal article “Can’t Stomach the Americans with Disabilities Act? How the Federal Courts Have Gutted Disability Discrimination Legislation in Cases Involving Individuals with Gastrointestinal Disorders and Other Hidden Illnesses”
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:06 pm
What kind of “professionals” are these lawyers? How could they let themseves get caught? This is appalling!!
That said, I’ve been a CPA for 35 years and we can out-nerd anyone.
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:10 pm
HHAHAHAHA That dean is ridiculous! GREAT POST!!!
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Rosenthal’s a good guy… the real issue is for those of us here that have class in the Evening Monday April 5th. That’s un-Kentucky like!
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:19 pm
#73-I was at the same motion hour, but got out on the first call about only missed about 5 minutes of gametime. Way too many lawyers reading this blog.
The bottom line for me is, if you want to watch the game bad enough, skip the lecture and take the consequences. If you don’t have the stones for that, then show up and be polite. And if you can’t watch without getting caught by that guy, then don’t try.
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
This guy is right. Students should have been more respectful. I think this happens regardless of the time or any basketball games. I’ve seen students talk to their friends on their cell phones while the professor is lecturing. And then, when they hang up they immediately check the internet, phone calls, and maybe play a game or two. And if they have any free time, which is unlikely, they listen to the prof for a minute or two. Pretty sad.
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:27 pm
As a lawyer married to an accountant - I challenge anyone to outnerd us! We’re one big bundle of spontaneous (yet well thought out) fun where money is no object (so long as a cost-benefit analysis is performed before each purchase).
My best memory from law school was when a teacher, recognizing that the pep rally to announce Billy G. as head coach was starting soon, stated that it was ok if anyone wanted to leave. He clearly didn’t expect anyone to leave, because he looked shocked when about half of the class walked out the door! So Billy G. didn’t work out, that will still a great excuse to get out of class!
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:28 pm
79- You sound like a Republican on MSNBC– No one agrees with what you are saying.
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Our oral arguments at UK law are scheduled for April 3rd, the day of the Final Four. A lot of my peers have tickets to the Final Four, and it’s caused quite a stir in the legal writing department. Oh, and this one’s directed at Ultra Nerd Alert, I’ve been dating a tax CPA for awhile now. I revel in our mutual nerdiness…
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Give Rosenthal a break! This was scheduled way in advance. The real nerd is the guy who didn’t blow class and watch the game. Plus everyone on the interweb and tweetering with their Internets during class, mayhem! Say what you will about Rosenthal, but he is an exceptional teacher.
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
just remember, lawyers also are the majority of both houses of congress (intentionally lower case). They will soon handle the financing of health care, but that cannot be nearly as terrible as missing the NCAA games on tv. If you think basketball is a collision sport, you haven’t seen anything yet! Your generation better start looking to vote for people who have their priorities straight, UK basketball first.
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Student’s not paying to professionalism lectures…..free health care…. What is the world coming to? May God help us all!!!!
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Paying attention
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:11 pm
#11 - HEY DON’T KNOCK THE CPA’s!!! Especially during this very sensitive time of year for some of my fellow tax form loving breathern…and, uh, “sistern”??
If you had been at my firm on Thursday, we all had the CBS feeds behind our screens listening to the tournament!
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
The only thing better than reading this argument is knowing that if Rosenthal reads this, he will be mentally correcting the multitude of grammar and spelling errors in the article and comments.
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:35 pm
89…thats scarily true. i can see it now purple marker everywhere, “this sentence was written in passive voice.”
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:40 pm
I don’t want to cast UK Law in a bad light. For the most part, we all work very hard and this isn’t average behavior. But, when it comes to the Cats, nobody gives an inch. I was in class during the Carolina v. Bama SEC tourney game. Roughly 20% of the class (a lot of people are from out of state - have to adjust for this - they aren’t trained yet) looked to be watching that game judging from what I saw. Bear in mind, this wasn’t to watch UK, this was just to scout the competition. The world didn’t end. Make no mistake. The books were waiting when the game was over. No reason to deny yourself one ray of sunshine in an otherwise painful existence. March only happens once a year. There is plenty of time for working yourself to death during the other 11 months.
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:41 pm
shoulda suprised all students showing up with pizza, hudeys and game on big screen…come on man get a life
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:58 pm
This may be the best thing to happen at Chase since i’ve been here. #60) your cover is blown…& I agree with you on all points. Law-Ro(lmao) isn’t all that bad, & I have had a beer with the guy (sorry #23). #61) Amen! Easily the best web-based distraction from family law this year… “thrilla in vanilla” i nearly spit water on my keyboard while the pioneer of the 3/4 tied windsor knot stared at me.
March 22nd, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Like the rest of the lawyers on the comments, I couldn’t have agreed with you more Matt. I live in DC and this place is crawling with them. The only attorneys I hang out with are my drinking buddies/classmates I graduated with. I remember watching the 2005 NCAA Tourney Game against MSU on my pc in the library…
March 22nd, 2010 at 7:31 pm
good post, Matt, I hope he “reads” it
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
I am currently in Pharmacy School in Virginia, one of my professors is a stickler for Professionalism and doesn’t like it if your looking at anything other than notes on your computer. During the SEC tourney everyone in the class knows how big of a Kentucky fan I am and ask if i am going to leave and watch the game. I didn’t leave I stuck around though and just watched it on my computer with my headphones in, during a break he came over and looked at my screen and all he ask was “Whats the score?” I laughed and told him and he just laughs and walks away. He attended Auburn University and taught there for a while, so he knows the SEC and how UK fans are. It helped that I was wearing my UK polo to be “Professional.”
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:09 pm
2 - awesome comment, so true.
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
12- Better words on this sad day could have not been stated, since most of our elected POS are lawyers, they learn early.
”law schools try to become a society unto themselves with little regard for what’s going on outside”
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:17 pm
#17, that’s funny. Wish people still said words like folderol. And balderdash.
Also, if all the lawyers on here really don’t associate with other lawyers, how come there are so many lawsuits? Oh right, this is just another example of lawyers lying.
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
60) is adam stigall
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
#17 — funny. Wish people still said words like folderol. And balderdash.
Also, if all these lawyers say they don’t associate with other lawyers, how come there are so many lawsuits? Oh, right — this is just another example of lawyers lying.
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Sorry for that double dose of folderol and balderdash. Fiddlesticks, I say!
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:00 pm
#57, do you work in a salt mine? I think if you read what I wrote carefully, you’ll see that I wasn’t advocating the abolition of joy, the killing of kittens, or stealing whatever things make life meaningful for you. I just don’t see why a school with no affiliation with UK should plan six to eight months in advance to avoid a lecture conflicting with a UK game. And I don’t see what is wrong if postgraduate students should be expected to act, well professional, during a lecture on professionalism.
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
the world’s worst rap video was filmed there.
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:35 pm
104. So push the silly lecture back 2 hours. What a jerk!
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:00 am
Jones knows my name. And used it. I. AM. A ROCK STAR.
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:06 am
Tier 4 = zero job prospects.
March 23rd, 2010 at 7:24 am
What boggles my mind is the stated lack of professionalism. Obviously the good Dean has never been to any of the annual Kentucky Law Updates given to those of us that just need our 12.5 hours CLE. I would argue that at least half of the practicing attorneys in attendance are reading the newspaper, working on their laptop, or otherwise not paying attention. So much for professionalism.
Although in this year’s lecture about law and the Internet I did pay attention when KSR was mentioned…GO CATS!
March 23rd, 2010 at 10:02 am
99) Comment #60 is NOT Adam Stigall. But probably wishes he was.
March 23rd, 2010 at 10:50 am
Went to Chase. As a 1L UK was scheduled to play at 12:50. We all skipped torts class and went to BW3’s. Had about 4 tables worth. Professor showed up, cancelled class and joined us for a beer. Good man, God rest his soul
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
This sort of dialogue is just reinforcing all the negative stereotypes of Kentucky. Yes, basketball is great and very important in this state but life doesn’t stop for it. If these students are serious about being lawyers, they are going to need be adults and show some respect for their colleagues.
March 23rd, 2010 at 8:45 pm
108, ain’t NO ONE wishes they were Adam Stigall! Adam Stigall is the Chuck Norris of our generation!