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January 27, 2010

The “Boogie” Situation

by @ 8:12 pm. Filed under Blue Blooded Opinions

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There was an earlier version of this story, which I changed after recognizing that the figure in the video was likely Patterson and not Cousins. Oh well, I have been on the road for a week, and I am getting old.

Today was a travel day for me and when I returned to the Bluegrass state, the world was abuzz. Emails, twitter messages, facebook comments, etc all asking the same question. So what happened with Demarcus Cousins and a South Carolina fan? In case you too missed the excitment of the day, the story boils down to this. A South Carolina student named “Steven” (I love how he refuses to give his last name) told a local South Carolina radio show that Cousins hit him with a “chicken wing” and a “cold cock” after the game last night, as he was storming the court. (You can hear his phone call here. Stephen of course said he did nothing to provoke it, and his story was apparently “verified” by a South Carolina tv reporter, who said he saw the whole thing. The allegations came out today, and the internet was set afire. (a more complete view of the story from the South Carolina side can be read here)

After hearing the story, I started making calls on the UK end and found that no verification could be made. Everyone I spoke with didnt see anything, and Cousins’ placement on the court (far away from the bench and dressing room), made it impossible to tell what happened when the masses swarmed. Then, I was made aware of this ESPN video, which shows the so-called “incident.” Originally I (and others) believed that it was Cousins walking on the top left of the video…but some readers in the comments section suggested (and I think correctly) that it is Patterson. So it might not tell us very much either.

So what are we left with? Well it looks as if we now have a case in which a random South Carolina student and a reporter are making an allegation, with no real proof to back it up. Is it beyond the pale of one’s imagination that Cousins could have hit a guy? I guess not. But in a scene like we had last night, I suspect there is a lot more to the story than originally meets the eye. My guess is that Cousins was approached by a swarm of unruly South Carolina fans, running all around the court and likely occasionally talking trash. In the heat of such a moment, lots of things can happen.

I however dont believe that a “cold cock” took place. Put it this way. If Demarcus Cousins punched you in the face, you would know it. And for some kid to say he got punched and then there to be no proof of that, visual or otherwise, I dont believe it. Could he have pushed him or done something else he shouldnt? Maybe. But “cold cock” a kid and the kid has no harm? Not buying it.

Regardless, the incident is proof that storming the court, while cool to see, is dangerous. That many people running at full steam, interacting with players of the other team is asking for trouble. We might never know what Cousins did or didnt do and even if we find out, we wont know the context (which is crucial). But what we do know is that Kentucky lost, Cousins took it hard and when approached by fans of the other team, something could have happened. Thats why the two lessons I live by, (1) try not to let people’s actions get in your head and (2) dont mess with Demarcus Cousins should be heeded by all parties involved. If they had, this would not be an issue today.

107 Responses to “The “Boogie” Situation”

  1. GoCats2 Says:

    If you look closely you can see a second Boogie on the Grassy Knoll.

  2. Bigbluecalizone Says:

    The guy is still able to speak and perform most cerebral functions. What other evidence do you need that Boogie didn’t put the smack down on him.

  3. meatballs Says:

    although the video isnt clear, I still applaud how Boogie (seems to) handle it. If I were him (and as big as him) if some b*tch collge tool named Stephen came near me, I would drop him in a heartbeat. Great job by Boogie, and if he did throw a quick elbow (or “cold cock?”) then even better

  4. GoCats2 Says:

    After this they are going to fine Carlton Fisk for pushing fans as he rounded 3rd in the 75 World Series.

  5. Blue Bob Says:

    i don’t see it. the film doesn’t show anything of the sort to me.

  6. meatballs Says:

    btw do you see at the end (0:17) some gumby like SC figure try to run towards the UK bench before getting thrown aside by UK assistants

  7. UKWildCatFanatic Says:

    If anybody’s going to “cold cock” someone, it wouldn’t be Boogie, it’d be Greg Oden.

  8. adaircam4 Says:

    6) I believe you are thinking of Chris Chambliss when he hit a homerun for the Yankees in the ALCS to win the game

  9. Zapruder Says:

    I think that is Carl but the film quality is so bad that it looks like they have on a sleeve. There is no possible way Boogie could have thrown two punches and even if he did, wouldn’t coaches immediately surround him and get him the hell out of there? Unfortunately I think it is just USC not being satisfied with just winning but they are getting petty and trying to cause some controversy.

  10. BravoBigBlue Says:

    Stephen should be arrested for storming the court. He acted “stupidly” (shout out to Barack). Case closed.

  11. ctoafn Says:

    There are already some comments on the SC Fined 25K thread. To sum it up. I was at the game and made it a point to watch the team as they left(I was trying to ignore all the screaming cocks). That was Patterson, not Boogie in that clip. The assistant coaches did a great job of evacuating the team. Several fans ran into the assistant and Patterson. I’m 99% sure the assistant had to push fans out of the way to get to the tunnel. Nothing happened, except fans ran into Patterson and he didn’t move, and the assistant had to move fans out of the way to get his player to the tunnel.

  12. sethicus59 Says:

    i think the “If Demarcus Cousins punched you in the face, you would know it” should be highlighted

  13. Beautiful Loser Says:

    I’m 42 and i’ve learned ont thing in life..If a guy is 6′10 and 280lbs you don’t get in his way..

  14. MattB Says:

    That video is horrible. That “figure” IS Patterson. He was the last one to cross half court heading towards the lockers when he was met by a couple assistant coaches. I was actually watching closely as the students were cutting through between UK bench and press row and it looked to me at the time like some idiot “ran into Patterson” in his childish frenzy and Pat simply was protecting himself by holding his arm out so the kid didnt run into him.
    That was my interpreatation before I turned to TV off last night. Cant tell anything from this vid.

  15. Not me Says:

    It wasn’t Cousins. You can see the guy has a blue arm sleeve arm. Plus, the numbers on the jersey at the beginning look more like 54, 34, or 24, not 15.

  16. Jessdogg Says:

    11 - what u describe is exactly how i saw it too. i paid attention to the team as they were leaving and Calipari was waving the team to hurry up but Patterson was taking his time so Coach O’ came and hurried him out of there.

  17. real ky fan Says:

    14 IS RITE LOOK AT THE SLEEVE ON THAT GUYS LEFT ARM ITS PATTERSON BOGGY DOSENT WEAR ONE.WHAT WILL THE GAME COCKS TRY DO NEXT OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  18. utah drought Says:

    last time i checked cousins doesn’t wear an arm sleeve

  19. TayPrinceJr. Says:

    I heard it was Stephen Garcia..he got into another bar fight and was too drunk to tell whether it was Boogie or a football player.
    Put it this way, if Boogie did do something, 1.- we would all know about it because 2.- this “Stephen” character wouldn’t live to tell about it.

  20. UK68 Says:

    i think their name just suits them…COCKS. that is all

  21. tltaworl Says:

    I was at the game last night. The man in the video is Pat. Cousins was off the court earlier and he got crashed into by a few few fans. It looked like they fell over some chairs and fell into him and he braced himself on them then walked away. No punch, this is nothing.

  22. sethicus59 Says:

    also this the first post where matt has legimately sounded like a defense lawyer

  23. ckroboth Says:

    It is Patterson in the video not Boogie… Look at the arm sleeve on the left arm as he walks away…

  24. bottom line Says:

    you rush the court at your own peril. everyone has a right to protect themself in that situation. i think it’s even in the constitution.

  25. tltaworl Says:

    How many technicals can you get in college basketball now? JP prince has 2 and is still playing

  26. Justin Says:

    At the 0.38 mark, if looks like Stephen goes back and to the left, back and to the left. Cousins is a righty, so you would think Stephen would go back and to the right.

  27. Hammertime Says:

    Boogie or PPat is going to be making 8 figures and this moron is getting close enough to him to jeopardize it.

    Wait till the first student or university gets sued for rushing the court and jeopardizing or hurting a players ability to earn millions of dollars.

  28. Mack Says:

    Maybe this has been discussed before but during the last few seconds of the game during a stoppage for a foul it seemed to me that the cock’s little mighty mouse PG was gesturing to the crowd to rush the court.

  29. kate Says:

    I got cold cocked last night! Thanks Drew!

  30. brkh1122 Says:

    Hey Matt, I was wondering the last time John, Boogie, Bledsoe lost a game? Also I was wondering their record in the last 100 games they played in, not including AAU ball.

  31. meatballs Says:

    oh crap, the guy everyone (and I at first) is thinking of is in fact patterson, but thats not who we should be looking at. This is the video’s fault because it doesnt include the actual incident up to question. Its in this video towards the TOP RIGHT and happens within the first 8 seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmgjYd1WN94

    to be honest, that flat out looks like a punch… this is not good

  32. Cat in the Hat Says:

    17) “Boggy”? Really?

    Lolz.

  33. uk fan Says:

    What if I revealed to the world that Devan Downey keyed my car after the game? It’s as plausible a story as this so called “incident”.

  34. Cinderella Says:

    Matt,
    I’ve watched in back 100 times on the DVR. The relevant “video” is right before this clip. Look at the guy in the upper right hand corner, near the beginning, in the UK blue dress shirt. He was with Cousins, a little behind Cousins. As Cousins is walking off, and “escorted” by UK personnel, a wave of USC fans are coming at him and falling to the ground in front of him/UK’s bench. It looks like Cousins might have stumbled, or leaned down to help someone, but he bends/falls down at one point and UK people push him forward toward tunnel. It looks like Cousins had UK “escorts” surrounding him. Patterson, for WHATEVER reason, walked toward the completely opposite corner of the court when the craziness started — and then had to come back through it. Antigua does go get Patterson to escort him off, and that’s what this video shows.
    BOTTOM LINE: If anyone got winged, clocked, cocked or punched by Boogie, there would be physical evidence.

  35. mike Says:

    Ogilvy’s hair is ridiculous ! Blonde highlights?

  36. BigNik Says:

    Patterson in the video not Boogie.

  37. SiteJumpedShark Says:

    If you are being attacked you while you are trying to escape you can defend yourself. It’s the law.

  38. Aaron Says:

    It was clearly Ronnie from the Jersey Shore. It was “one hit kid” and definitely “self defense bro.”

  39. Justin Says:

    Watch 32 video…something did happen, thats for sure.

  40. two things Says:

    1). one of prince’s T’s was for hanging on the rim. an “indirect” tech so it doesn’t count as personal. 2). looks like we REALLY need to be ready for vandy.

  41. Smitty Says:

    The Gamecocks are idiots, Boogie doesnt wear a sleeve.

  42. Justin Says:

    42 - watch post #32 video, 5 second mark.

  43. Jermaine O'Neal Says:

    I’ll wax any fan that runs onto the court. I’m not screwing around.

  44. jeff Says:

    rushing the court is a NCAA offense and isnt allowed, IF this did happen… he brought it upon himself

  45. Captainobvious Says:

    I love how he says this happened yet the fans weren’t even supposed to be on the floor in the first place? There’s that USC education paying off.

  46. Calizone Says:

    Somebitchs just skated with the win of their life times. They need to let sleeping dogs,or should I say Cats lie. Wait till they come to Rupp. They’ll get something to cry about.

  47. turkeyblue Says:

    If this did happen, I am disappointed that someone didn’t do that to Downey as he drove to the basket, threw up an off balance bank shot, and flopped like he got fouled. If the refs were going to call that “touch” stuff, then we have to start fouling guys like Magloire used to. I bet Downey might think twice about coming in there at the end of the game if he knew he was going to catch a 6′ 11″ 280lb arm and elbow across his head. We need to quit swiping and start being aggressive if we are going to be called for a foul anyway.

  48. Boogie Says:

    The video in 32 does look like somethin happened, but you cant tell what, it looks as much like a punch as it does if some fan was runnin onto the court and fell into him, he kind of jolts back suddenly

  49. Rhythm_Bruise2354 Says:

    Yeah I agree, 32’s video does show something happening there in the corner, don’t watch Patterson, watch the tunnel where the UK players are filing out.

  50. Rhythm_Bruise2354 Says:

    The more I watch it, the more it looks like he throws an elbow.

  51. Siafu_Snafu Says:

    that could be nick calathes for all we can tell. what crappy “proof”

  52. flysoup Says:

    If you go to the zoo and feed the animals, you shouldn’t cry like a little bitch when you get bit. With that said, Boogie did nothing wrong.

  53. Siafu_Snafu Says:

    ahh, after looking at 32’s video, i see what everyone is saying

  54. DoubleVision Says:

    Simply a boogie noogie. Get over it cock.

  55. smiles Says:

    If he did nothing wrong then why were the Cocks fined $25,000?

  56. WildcatsOne Says:

    I hope little Stevie gets some tickets for the game at Rupp. I would like to make sure he understands the difference between incidental contact, and a punch. He’s probably a little sissy queer who only weighs 110 pounds and wears low cut “girl jeans”.

  57. Volunqueer Says:

    I feel bad for UK, but 0bama jinxed the Wildcats when he called them last night and told them not to get “cocky”. He did for the Wildcats what he is doing for the economy.

  58. meatballs Says:

    57. like obama?
    http://www.usmagazine.com/files/obama-bike-b.jpg

    hopefully a political fight will divert the attention from cousin’s and what he did/didn’t do

  59. Wildcater Says:

    Fans storm those courts at their own peril. Its amazing nobody has been seriously hurt by a court storming yet, but will eventually happen. If little “bitch” fans storm the court and mob the other teams players they are asking for some type of Love Tap anyway.

  60. WalkersGoggles Says:

    Someone stormed the Rolling Stones stage back in 1981 and Keef slammed his guitar into his head. 60) nailed it, you run out on a court, you do so at your own risk.

  61. Joey P. Says:

    Maynard from Tool choked a fan that got on stage on time….go to the 20 second mark.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7O-Nd0tZg8

  62. Cinderella Says:

    I don’t see the punch at 32. I see Cousins jolt and kind of stumble and lean down, but I don’t see him throw a punch out. What am I missing?

  63. RobUKpt Says:

    Good catch 32, and yes something made cousins abruptly change positions but unless you’re jack bauer and CTU to enhance the video and frame by frame it, let it go cocks. You won, enjoy, we’ll see you in march. No we won’t because we’ll be a one seed and you’ll be in the NIT if you’re lucky

  64. KentuckyHouse Says:

    What I’m seeing in the higher quality ESPN video is someone appears to fall down right at Cousins’ feet, causing him to nearly tumble over them. What looks like an elbow could be him flailing his arms while trying to keep his balance and not come crashing down on the kid. If he’d thrown a punch or elbow, with that many students and coaches around, don’t you think a melee would’ve ensued???

    My opinion? With that many students scrambling to get on the court, one or two got tripped up and fell down right at Boogie’s feet, nothing more. Either way, unless someone comes up with a HIGH QUALITY video of him actually throwing a punch or elbow, nothing happened and it’s a non-story.

  65. charley Says:

    looks like they fell/stumbled into him

  66. Big D Says:

    Man that was the fastest two punches ever. Boogie needs to be in cage fighting with that hand speed. This South Carolina guy is full of it.

  67. Joey P. Says:

    Looks like a push if anything…can’t really tell though…I’m thinking if he punches someone it’s all over ESPN this morning.

  68. 4 UK's sake Says:

    Someone whacked Patterson with a jacket, that is plain to see. (0:15) USC fans are very nasty and in your face. They deserve it!

    In #32 video I see Cousins getting tripped by a fan rushing the court.

    UCONN fans will always think twice before tangling with UK fans, after what happened in MSG.

    USC are little sissies for even bringing this up.

  69. Uk_Yitbos12 Says:

    That’s definitely Patterson you can see the right arm sleeve.

  70. meatballs Says:

    not to argue with fellow uk fans, but i honestly can’t see how your saying he tripped over someone. im all for defending Boogie, but seriously, try not to be bias. Maybe it was just a shove, but he clearly does not trip- it is all an upper body motion and he clearly thrusts an arm/fist towards some tool student who probably said a wise ass b*tch comment to Boogie.

  71. meatballs Says:

    oh and im not picking on Boogie. I would have done the same thing in that situation. Im all for storming the court, but you should be NOWHERE NEAR the opposing teams bench. anyone who runs towards the opposing players deserves to get their teeth knocked out

  72. Tango Says:

    26. Best comment on this page. We all take this too seriously.

  73. BiggerBlueFan Says:

    #71…
    Good Lord man….I’ve watched this 50 times. I have no idea what you are saying/seeing. LMAO at the phoney outrage. Really don’t think you are a CatFan.

  74. Stickman Says:

    Who are those two guys in the picture at Wildcat Lodge?

  75. 4 UK's sake Says:

    75. It looks like Cousins has Stephen in somewhat of a headlock. You’re right how did Stephen get to Coal lodge?

  76. Cincy Cat Girl Says:

    Thanks for the link #32. Plainly, you can see something happen in the top right corner, but it is hard to tell what happened. It looks like he threw a punch, but he could have been trying to keep his balance.

  77. Stickman Says:

    #76,

    If you look closely at the bushes to the left of the sign, the second Cousins that #1 mentioned is waiting to jump out and punch him while Boogie holds him down.

  78. Lou Says:

    #71 - “Clearly” - are you serious? The only thing clear from this video is that the fans stormed the court.

  79. buk Says:

    I feel like I am watching the infamous “Patterson film” of bigfoot lore. Funny that the person in the film is named Patterson. How bout that?

  80. Don King Says:

    Cousins definitely throws a killer combo… This “he tripped and fell” or “he is getting his balance because he stumbled” talk is garbage. I am huge UK fan, but I am not going to let being a fan skew what is clear as day in that video. Just saying…

  81. workingman Says:

    They should feel like punks for bringing this up. If a UK fan got punched I don’t think there would be a lot of folks in Lex. crying about it.

  82. workingman Says:

    81. Clear as day? Nothing is clear on that video.

  83. Don King Says:

    83. Check the video from #32.. 5-6 seconds in. Top right corner. One-two combo.

  84. workingman Says:

    Now I see it. Looks like a UK player is leaving the court as fans are jumping onto the court. Can’t be sure but maybe they make contact with one another. I’m 90% sure about this from the video. I’m still missing the clear attack by Cousins.

  85. Villeslgr Says:

    @ #32

    “If he did nothing wrong then why were the Cocks fined $25,000?”

    Huh? They were fined because they stormed the court.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4863093

  86. wah Says:

    bullsh**!!!boggie eats souls…if he hit someone they’d probably just explode

  87. Dennis Weaver Says:

    I got suckerpunched by Demarcus Cousins and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.

  88. Dennis Weaver Says:

    And yes, that is Patterson.

  89. Big A Says:

    I could watch this 100 times and wouldn’t see what you all are talking about.

  90. poopy pants Says:

    90. check the video from #32

  91. SUPREMECATS Says:

    ive watched 32’s video and i still dont see $hit…wtf are you all talking about?

  92. Fruitloopy? Says:

    You’re seeing what you want to see if you claim to clearly see punches thrown.

  93. Love the Cats Says:

    That is not Boogie. Replay the end of the game, the last one of the court is Patterson, Antiqua is the one that walks out and gets him. In the video that is Pat.

  94. Love the Cats Says:

    In the video by #32 that does look like Cuz, but to his defense they were storming the court and running into the players that is the kids fault, I would throw a punch to. All in all, if the players read the comments, we love you all, dont let the ignorance of a bunch of fans make you not appreciate what BBN is all about.

  95. BluKat Says:

    The player in the video is Patterson. Notice the sleeve on his arm, Cousins doesn’t wear a sleeve. Now, there is no way Patterson throws any punch of any sort. If anything, protect himself by pushing someone away if they come after him.

  96. Siafu_Snafu Says:

    i think there is a miscommunication here. in the video posted by 32 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmgjYd1WN94), instead of paying attention to the center, which is clearly patterson, look in the top right corner about 2 centimeters from the top and 1 centimeter from the right at the 6 sec mark.

    i tend to agree with 71 and 81, it does look like he’s thrusting rather than falling. and there actually is a second “thrust” right before they cut to dykes and co and before he leaves the screen. we have to be realistic about this and telling it like it is doesnt make you a bad fan. at the 5 sec mark you can see him stumble and then the thrust at 6 sec. its really hard to mistake that for a stumble or him helping someone up. this could be a huge deal and for those that say its nothing then maybe you never heard of lagarrette blount? granted this isnt definitive video proof, but if it comes out he really did hit someone post game, does no one see the repercussion?

  97. WC84 Says:

    I don’t know what kind of equipment 32 has to enhance his video, but I can’t tell crap about what happened . I guees some people see what they want to.

  98. LeeW Says:

    He should have hit more of them. Nastiest students in the SEC. Check the what the football team says about them. They are crude, nasty, vile and in your face. I’m not sure how they kiss their mothers with those mouths. Even the adults taunt you in the stands. There is no wonder this is such a shithole state outside of Charleston.

  99. UKfanNKY Says:

    The only thing I saw after the game while the “cocks” were storming the floor was a dumb ass “cock” fall down and about got trampled. If some idiot “cock” came running up to me pushing me out of the way I would have shoved him away too!!! GO CATS!!!!! Time to stop all the bullshit and move on!!! GO CATS!!!!!!

  100. Greg Oden Says:

    17. Maybe they will try to lose to UK, can’t seem to do it though

  101. Hug It ! Says:

    Cousins should have went in the stands and punched that prick behind the announcer.

  102. Traveling Fan Says:

    I was at the game last night. The USC fans were the most rude and crude SOB’s i have ever experienced and i have traveled to most of the SEC venues.I realize it was a BIG win for them but please act like you have WON before. Close call on my control, five years ago I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY GONE TO JAIL!!!!

  103. Carl Says:

    It has been pretty well established that it is Patterson in the video…not Cousins…so why is it still on this site with the Cousins descriptor. It perpetuates the false idea that there is video evidence that Cousins punched someone.

  104. devin Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmgjYd1WN94

    at the 5 sec. mark in the top right corner you can see the team walking off the court, and it looks like Cousins is jumping out of the way. almost as if someone fell down in front of him.

  105. da big blue monster Says:

    its not cousins in the video he doesnt wear a sleeve and the player has a sleeve probably patterson. he just wanted to let some one know he was at the game

  106. tltaworl Says:

    I posted what happened in comment 21. let it go

  107. meatballs Says:

    96. i guesss some people refuse to see what they don’t want to.
    and seriously, stop commenting that it is Pat in the first video, we have already made that clear. the video with cousins is posted in #32

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