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Some things in life are unavoidable. Death and taxes suck, but it has to happen. Doug Shows officiating Kentucky games has to happen. And it sucks. Hunter Brickey at Kentucky Heartbeat, you may remember for being the blogging home of former Wildcat Perry Stevenson, put the pen to paper — or, fingers to keyboard — and spelled it out.
Shows has called six Kentucky games this season and the Cats are 1-5 in those contests. Four of those games have been on the road for Kentucky. That matters significantly, because Brickey found that Shows has a home foul margin (the disparity between the number of fouls whistled on the home team versus the away team) of -9 in those games. He has strongly favored the home team in Kentucky games.
Compare that to Tony Greene who has also called six Kentucky games this season, three of which came on the road, who has a home foul margin of 0.7. Averaging out to being unbiased to either side.
In all of Shows’ other games this season, he has a home foul margin of -2.8, which is a lot closer to neutral than -9.
What’s more, Brickey found that Shows officiated eight Kentucky games last year, five at home and three on the road, and Shows favored the visiting team by 3.4 fouls. Why the change of tune?
I, like Brickey, am not convicting Shows of anything fishy. I’m just saying the evidence is there if you want to.
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March 6th, 2013 at 2:04 pm
I hate him!
March 6th, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Also the fact that Coach Cal teaches the right way to play defense without fouling and these opposing teams are fouling every time down the floor makes this even more ridiculous. We foul 20 times a game and get called all 20. The other team fouls 80 times a game and only gets called for 20. It happens almost every game. The refs aren’t going to call much more than 20 fouls no matter what and these lesser coaches are taking advantage of it. They’ve got to do something about it because right now college basketball is unwatchable.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Yeah…UK is always the victim…just like IU was last night…just like Kansas is when they lose…just like Duke is when they lose.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
What needs to happen is what they have done in the NBA. We need to cut out all the hand checks and the forearms on backs. We also need to cut out the hip checks as well. That would clean up the game so much.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
I’d have a hard time not punching him in the face if I saw him out….
March 6th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Why do people hyperlink their name to nothing? I dont get it
March 6th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
Can we maybe forward this to the SEC offices or NCAA?
March 6th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
Well #3 the numbers don’t lie and are you another one of the many haters? If so please find a life somewhere and leave the trolling off KSR and go to the other board sites where losers like yourself live or maybe you are just hungover from the awesome IU loss celebration last night?
March 6th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
Maybe someone is watching!
SHOWS, needs to go!
March 6th, 2013 at 2:17 pm
Yeah #3, he aso did the LOSERVILLE GAME!
March 6th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
#3. No IU sucks….KU sucks….Duke sucks…Doug Shows SUCKS….
March 6th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
The guy wants what he is getting right now form this and that is publicity pure and simple. UK high profile and he can make a name for himself against us so there it is.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
3 IU doesnt belong in the same breath as Kentucky, Kansas, and Duke.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
idea for a new reality show:
Real Wifes (Life partners) of SEC basketball officials.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
#3 . Try to pay attention while watching games, the teams with less talent negate that by mudding the game ( fouling by holding , slapping, hacking). These refs ignore the rules and cater to the home team. Take Arkansas 17-1 at home 1-12 on the road. When they play on the road they can’t foul and get away with it. Is this too hard to understand. Doug Shows and refs like him should be fired.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
I for one believe that Doug Shows is a crook. Someone needs to investigate his connection with gambling. Know a better way to control betting lines?
March 6th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
Maybe someone should do some investigation into this guy’s finances. It would be great if that hacker group anonymous would decide to take on the NCAA, there’s no telling what we could find out.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
In case anyone is interested the 1 game we won
with Showsoff officiating was Morehead St.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
Numbers NEVER lie. Something is here to be investigated.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Shows is a jerk — not just the personal fouls, the technical fouls also.
But I’ve noticed that with most refs, the team I’m pulling for always get the shaft —
March 6th, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Doug Shows is the Greatest ref ever
March 6th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
OK, I hate to be the math geek, but if -9 is the total foul differential for 6 games, that’s only 1.5 per game. Big deal. And it’s actually much less than his 2.8 for his other games. If it’s -9 per game, than yes, that’s obviously a problem. But I don’t think you can compare the -9 to the -2.8 otherwise.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:36 pm
#22 – Read it again. The -9 is the average not the total!
March 6th, 2013 at 2:40 pm
Shows and Valentine should ref globetrotter games
March 6th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Only thing that sucks worse that Doug Shows are these douchebag IU fans in the office justifying cutting down the nets after a loss. That and listening to fans from 3 different Big 10 schools crying about Teddy Valentine all the time, especially when they go head to head and somehow he is out to screw both teams???
March 6th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
i found that dude’s home and work numbers online last week (took all of 5 mins), when it was rumored he would be working the cats game on saturday. As he blew call and after call, I was tempted to tweet it out to the world and really make sure the BBN called the wife and kids to tell them what they think of him…then I realized that might only draw more venom from him in the future (if that is even possible). Doesn’t help that all his bosses at his bank (the boards of directors, the President titles), they all seem to have affiliations to other SEC schools and UK isn’t represented at all. We need to get a Kentucky BlueBlood to buy themselves a Board of Directors position down there…maybe that kind of influence would even the playing field.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
“I say we blow the f#$%er up”
March 6th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
Do these guys not have to go before review boards? Does no one NOT test their work? Sounds like Bobby Knight back in the day at IU. Go check IU’s home ft differential under Knight. Hate to think what it was. I know it was rarely ever less then 20 more ft’s for the home team. But, old Bobby was a straight arrow!?! Yea right. all you have to do there is look at Pitino’s first two games as UK coach against Knight. Both were up there, somewhere. 1st year, the ft’s were like 47-11 IU, and we lost by i think 3? 2nd year, it was like 54-9 IU on ft’s, and WE BEAT THEM!!??
March 6th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
Hell yeah #15. Hell yeah.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Shows has nice workout effort for his arms but the rest of his body is fat.
SEC officials should not to be allowed to take drama classes either.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
26. Wow. You need to re-evaluate your life if you’re taking college basketball so serious that you’d think of calling, or have other people call, a guy’s home. Seriously?
March 6th, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Does anyone know if the referee crews at the collegiate level have individual fouls called broken down by REF? I know when the Donaghy thing came out in the NBA, it exposed that the nba DID NOT TRACK which ref made the personal foul or violation call (to a specific team or player). They tracked the totals and averages that a ref was on (as a crew), but not as an individual. I think the NBA said that the Donaghy thing made them push for more statistics on who called what fouls and violations. I have to think this is NOT BEING DONE at the college level. Its a shame. Everything is big business in sports. They could pay an intern $7 bucks an hour to track which ref made which call during a game (because I don’t think its being done currently).
March 6th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
i am sure this foul disparity is a total coincidence and has nothing to do with the fact that doug shows is a total douchebag.
March 6th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
Why doesn’t the Athletic Department do something about this kind of stuff? Can’t they reach the SEC Commissioner and complain about this apparent show of bias?
March 6th, 2013 at 2:57 pm
31 ktmiln: You are probably right. Not gonna fight you on that. That said, I wouldn’t have even done the five mins of research if he was just that a bad ref (to both teams). Its that the officiating from him recently, both in UK games AND non-UK games has been so one-sided in every game. I truly believe that he owes someone money and is making it back from his gambling. Did you watch his Syracuse vs. Marquette game last week? It was so one-sided it was disgusting. I can give you some examples from that game that would make you puke. I am unbiased on that game, and I can tell you after five minutes of watching I knew what the result would be. I wanted to bet 100K on marquette when I saw his first 4 foul calls.
March 6th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
32) I’m pretty sure the stats in this post are from doing exactly what you’re talking about.
March 6th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
If I ever saw Mr. Shows at my neighborhood walmart. I’d struggle to not drown him in the fish tanks. Just sayin.
March 6th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
And UK’s sole win in front of Shows: Morehead. So, no offense to a 14-17 Morehead team, but really UK is 0-5 in front of shows. (Of note, UK only beat Morehead by 11.)
March 6th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Doug Shows is like Leslie Nielson as an umpire in Naked Gun. Calling strikes before the ball is even pitched, just to be cheered by the home team. Somebody needs more hugs at home.
March 6th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Umpire Scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-S-eeInJVk
March 6th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
Isn’t Gerald Budreau (sp?) head refree of the SEC? Not much use complaining to him about a bad ref at Kentucky!
March 6th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
I searched “Doug Shows refree” and got all kinds of good stuff. This article was also posted:
Commissioner John D. Swofford also said Friday the ACC has suspended referee Doug Shows for one game for his “mishandling of a game management situation” during the contest at Wake Forest on Wednesday night.
Shows will be suspended from his next conference game assignment.
Shows called two technical fouls against Maryland in the Terrapins’ 81-72 loss, one on Williams midway through the second half and the other on senior guard Steve Blake with 15 seconds to play for jawing on the court.
Blake declined to talk about the technical after the game, but Williams told reporters about an exchange he had with a referee without directly naming Shows.
“We had a referee tell us he’d see us next week in a threatening manner,” Williams said. “I’m a little tired of the rule the ACC has about (not) commenting on officiating and this is the first time I’ve commented.”
Asked if planned to contact league officials about the alleged threat, Williams said his complaint would probably not make a difference
March 6th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsAobVufThY
I did not create this (i’m not so technologically savvy), but I wish I had. I just found it a couple minutes ago. I know that Marquette was in the bonus with about 14 minutes left in the second half. Large free throw disparity. A short Syracuse bench made much thinner by many questionable calls, many from Shows. Marquette is known for a physical brand of basketball, gets called with 10 personal fouls in 40 minutes? Devonte Gardner lives in foul trouble. Gardner has committed 3 or more fouls in 10 games this year, often doing in less than than 20 mins on the court! That night versus Syracuse he played 33 mins and didn’t commit a single foul? Two teams were comparable number of threes made & attempted (8/24 vs 5/21), comparable rebounds (33 vs. 27) and combined steals/blocks (10 vs. 7). But Marquette WENT TO THE FREE THROW LINE 35 times. Syracuse went 7 times. ABSOLUTE Game changer with a 1-point spread.
March 6th, 2013 at 3:18 pm
Dougie is from Rome Ga. Hmmmm a Bulldog? Yellow jacket? Either one are not too fond of Wildcats……..maybe a hidden bias from his fanhood days still smolders?? Must be something because his disdain for the blue and white is very apparent
March 6th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
36- so your saying they do break down WHICH REF made the call, and not just the number as a crew? I’ll have to look for that. Thanks.
March 6th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
I for one will not watch another doug shows game, even before this post went up. When Polson got the charging foul in the first half against Arkansas, I turned it off and didn’t turn it back on. We predict his bias, and he delivers each and every time. Even if it’s the tournament, no more Doug for me. I just write it down as a loss and move on.
March 6th, 2013 at 3:34 pm
45) That’s how I took this post. I figured these numbers represented Shows and not the entire crew. Maybe I’m wrong.
March 6th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Doug T SHows…the T stands for technical.
Or, Doug S Shows…the S stands for Showboat.
March 6th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
If Mainstream Media published this information, it would be a public service. Call out these cheats and rats!!
March 6th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
If you don’t like Dougies officiating, give him a call and let him know
Doug Shows
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Direct 706.378.3975
Fax 706.378.5309
March 6th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
I believe the numbers on statsheet and other sites or news outlets only compile fouls by the game total (entire crew for each game), and not be individual zebra. I’m fairly confident that it doesn’t breakdown like it should: (IE- Shows 12 Valentine 10 Hess 13). I believe that TECHNICALS are broken down by ref, but not fouls or violations. Personally, I think this is a big oversight. If I am the NCAA or an Athletic Director or Coach or someone whose livelihood and career depends on the authenticity of these games; I want to know if the same zebra has called more fouls against 1 team than their opponent (5 or 10 times in a row, or 75% of the time over a long stretch of time). I’d want to know that stuff. Heck, as a fan (and occasional gambler), I want to know that!! Either way, this research was good for me. I see that the home team has won the spread in 5 of the last 6 Shows has worked. Didn’t have time to go back further, but I will. I will definitely be twitter searching “Doug Shows” at 6:45 every night to find out where he is reffing. Might as well put a couple sheckles on the home team until the Gold Pot runs dry. [SoFla-4, wins by 10. Ark-2.5, wins by 13. WKY -5, wins by 6. Vandy -5.5, wins by 1. Marq +1.5, wins by 3. ND-2.5, wins by 21]
March 6th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Why they continue to give us the shaft and let him referee our games Is beyond me. I thought he would be taken off or at least suspended from UK games for awhile after he said publicly that he does not like John Calipari at all. Refs are supposed to be unbiased and maybe give the home team a slight edge, and I could live with that. But Shows has shown Is just plain anti UK.
March 6th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
I’ve watched every UK game this year (with the exception of one), and i can’t say that any of the losses i’ve seen, could even remotely be blamed on the refs. Sorry, but i won’t be convinced otherwise.
March 6th, 2013 at 4:19 pm
…like I posted last week on the Shows thread, his daddy Bobby played for Mississippi State back in the Rupp days. I have personally heard Bobby voice his disdain for all things UK. So why should we be surprised when shows calls UK the way he does?
Great posts by everyone who is backing up my ANECDOTAL data (observing questionable calls by shows, throwing in the towel when he struts out on the court, etc.) with EMPIRICAL data (point spreads, win/loss records, fouls called, etc.). Agreed…NO one can dictate a game like the officials. They can stop momentum, turn the cheers to boos, get players into foul trouble…easily. The Polson charging foul at Arkansas. Are you kidding me? Turrible call.
Sorry for the Pitino reference, but as I recall from his UK days, he had a dedicated assistant or GA actually tracking (from the bench) the refs’ calls…and used them with the SEC office. Anyone remember that one?
March 6th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
53- How do you know? Even if true, don’t you think referees should be balanced and impartial? Aren’t they supposed to be? Why is it okay if they aren’t?
March 6th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
53nassau65 Says: I hear what you are saying. I think for the most part, UK could have played with more energy or intensity, could have shot better, could have not been sleep-walking for a half…could have been doing a lot of things better in our losses. In many cases, we deserved those Ls. That said, you can’t completely look the other way that sometimes Shows (or others) haven’t done much to create a level playing field. (Do we get games called in our favor at times…yeah…we probably do. Are we gonna crow about that when it happens? Definitely not.) That said, you can’t be a big time D-1 ref and screw up the possession arrow!!! The game was 18-10 when that happened. Then, when you know you’ve already butchered something as simple as THE POSSESSION ARROW, and that rules don’t allow you to take points off the board (the 3 pointer they hit), than YOU CAN NOT call a technical or eject a coach when he is arguing the wrong call. You CAN NOT call that Technical. It is as close to a “written rule” as any “unwritten rule” can be. When you screw up like that, you gotta take it on the chin and absord the verbal punishment. That is what you sign up for when your cashing the nice check for 3 hours of work. Anyone who has been a ref/ump/official at any level; or whom has participated in or around athletics knows this. I really wish ESPNClassic would replay that Marquette vs. Syracuse game that Shows worked. I was astounded by how bad Shows was in that game. It had Tim Donaghy written all over it.
March 6th, 2013 at 4:57 pm
These guys don’t volunteer. A ref like SHOWS, the conferences he works and the experience he has…he gets paid between $600-800/game. They pay for his flight (he pockets tons of airline miles), his expenses, etc. From the 66 games he has worked (and 5 weeks of season left), he has (CONSERVATIVELY) made nearly $35,000 from this part time job. For that kind of money, you can’t have rabbit ears when you butcher a call on a Nationally televised game.
March 6th, 2013 at 5:36 pm
It’s not only the bad calls but the no calls that can change a game. I’ve played, coached and officiated basketball games for many years. It’s easy to control point spreads if you have a ref on the take and It’s easy to frustrate and take a team out of the game if you are trying. College basketball gambling is a billion dollar industry.
March 6th, 2013 at 5:44 pm
#53 Nassau65 – “i can’t say that any of the losses i’ve seen, could even remotely be blamed on the refs.” I respectfully disagree. It rings hollow on the internet to say “I am not a chronic referee blamer” but I really am not, so take that for what it worth. I generally agree that refs don’t win or lose games, outside of a one call situation, for the most part. However, for Kentucky THIS YEAR, that is completely untrue. Look at the intensity Alex Poythress plays with…oh wait…that’s right he plays with almost no intensity. That is because he gets called for a disproportionate amount of cheap fouls early in games. I have seen it happen all year. The other team is mugging us, and Alex gets a hand check call, or a blocking call. Once he gets two, the ref has effectively removed Alex from the game, thereby significantly reducing (as based on the results of the Missouri game and other where that did not happen) our chance to win.
March 6th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
So, our winning percentage in Shows games is .166, in non-Shows games we’re .830 ?
That’s VERY interesting.
March 6th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
This thread wasn’t about blaming our last loss on the refs or the last four before that. This thread is to point out the obvious: Doug Shows has a problem with Kentucky. Nothing more
March 6th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
Most of what is written here is drivel, and mainly for our entertainment. But this…. this is a big story….it needs to be taken to the league office. With these numbers, there’s no way they can say it’s coincidence…. somebody needs to get to the bottom of all this.
Good work Mike Hammer.
March 6th, 2013 at 7:01 pm
Why don’t the rules allow every basketball coach to blackball a ref who has an obvious bias against his team from working any of the games? Each coach should at the very least get 5 games where he can eliminate a ref if he feels that the outcome could be jeopardized. If this keeps up they might have to put a restraining order on Cal and the UK fans against Shows.
March 6th, 2013 at 9:33 pm
Looks like he’s a lefty…