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Did you have “heart monitors” in your office’s pool for Cal’s secret training technique? If so, congratulations.
Cal has a lengthy post over at his website about using the monitors, which measure the players’ exertion rate, sport zones, caloric expenditure and heart rate:
The device gives us the ability to monitor and check how much effort players are giving in real time. Because we are able to read their heart rates, now we know who is maxing out in practice and who is hiding, who thinks they’re going hard and who isn’t, who is able to push themselves through pain, and who has mental toughness to be special.
The team has been using the heart monitors in practice for about three weeks, and Cal says he’s seen improvement so far. Rock Oliver sits in front of a computer and monitors the players’ heart rates and exertion levels during practice in real time so that Cal is able to turn to him to ask if a certain player is giving their all, or if he needs to back off. The players have also been wearing the monitors during games, which explains why we saw an assistant help Alex Poythress adjust his a few weeks ago.
The players are interested in the readings, too. Cal said that they’ve been using the readings to judge how much harder they need to go in practice as well:
Another example: Since we started using the devices, Willie Cauley-Stein will look over during practice and ask what his rate is. If it’s at an 80-percent level, he’ll go harder to get his rate up. After practice, three or four guys walk over every time and ask how they did. That’s exactly what we hope the players will get out of this. It’s a great individual tool for each of them. If we are about players first, we have to help them become the best versions of themselves.
A mind-boggling stat from Cal’s post: by using the devices, they’ve learned that the players burn between 5,500 and 6,000 calories per day. PER DAY! Do you think they’d mind if I jumped in on some of these sessions? Talk about fulfilling your new year’s resolutions…
Check out Cal’s post to learn more:
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January 3rd, 2013 at 12:10 pm
My guess was big blue kool aid darn it…
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:13 pm
NCAA will for some reason open an investigation of this in 3….2…..1……
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Cal. got this idea from the Miami Heat – theyused this in pre-season training, practices, workouts leading up to the season either last year or the year before (cant quite remember). But great tool to use!
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Yeah, I’m pretty sure Cal misspoke about how many calories they are burning.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:15 pm
I thought the secret was having them practice against old guys as shown in an earlier post.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:16 pm
how much more harder?
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:17 pm
I wonder if that was what they were fixing under Poythress’ jersey in one of the games earlier in the year. They pulled him out and lifted his jersey to take a look at something and then he was right back in.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:18 pm
4) Did you think that was a high number? I was honestly a little surprised that it wasn’t closer to 10,000.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:18 pm
4- Cal doesn’t misspeak. Get your mind straight!!!!
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:19 pm
The thing is, it’s hard to eat remotely healthy food and get to 6,000 calories.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:23 pm
It just seems like an excessively high number. You only burn 3000 or so running an entire marathon.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:23 pm
Glad Rock Oliver can strength train the basketball players properly. Because it seemed every Saturday the UK football team was not nearly as strong nor had the cardio of other SEC teams. Here is to hoping Stoops brings in a top notch Strength and Conditioning Coach for football.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:28 pm
#10 – I wouldn’t say it’s hard, but it can be expensive, especially for a college student. They need to be eating a ton of protein (and fat). Unfortunately carbs are cheap, protein is not. 6,000 calories is about 6.5 lbs of skin-on chicken breast, which will cost you $20-30 a day if that was all you ate. (Obviously they’ll eat a mix of carbs, protein and fat, just saying that protein is more important and more expensive.)
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:32 pm
@ Delk
A 125 pound man jogging a long time is a big difference than someone sprinting and running hard everywhere they go……muscle mass and weight and all that stuff plays a role. .
Per livestrong:
For an average marathon runner, the heart rate during the race will range from 132 to 142 beats per minute. The heart rate will generally increase to 140 or more beats per minute during the first 30 to 60 minutes of the race and then slow down to a steady 135 beats per minute. These heart rate averages typically fall in the aerobic intensity zone based on percent of your maximum heart rate. The aerobic zone is 70 to 80 percent maximum heart rate and allows your body to transport oxygen to the working muscles during the marathon.
The average US time for a marathon with recorded times is 4 hours and 37 minutes. I dont know if you played sports in college but I did and I guarantee you they work out at least 4 hours a day when you add in “voluntary” workouts.
Most college teams have 6AM conditioning/weight lifting when not in current season. Then practice at least 2-3 hours everyday.
These are 200-250 muscle beasts with HR probabaly between 180-200 beats per minute if they are at 90% max HR as mentioned above.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:34 pm
#3 – Actually the idea has been around much longer than that. I was down in Austin TX in Feb of 2008 and the local call in show was talking about Texas having implemented them. At the time I was curious to know how widespread the practice was. My guess is that the “secret” ain’t so secret
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:35 pm
UK better hope no player experiences a cardiac event in practice or a game. Can you say major lawsuit? Easy to prove coaches knew exactly what the condition of each player is throughout the practice or game.
#12 LOL, so you’re saying UK just needed to be in better condition to compete in SEC FB. Putting together a team of highly conditioned, strength trained 2/3 star players and pitting them against highly conditioned 4/5 star players in the SEC doesn’t mean squat. So if UK FB players more conditioned last year, we would have lost to Vandy by only 40-17 or something? HINT: WE NEED TALENT and then we can worry about strength/cardio training.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:36 pm
#11 – Not really. Look up a daily calorie burn calculator, and one of these guys (say 6’6″, 250 lbs) going through a day of little activity (sitting, walking a little, sleeping) burns about 3,000 calories. Then add on their workouts. Working out at 80-90% of your max heart rate burns a ton of calories. I found an estimator that says that would be over 2000 calories in 2 hours (based on age 18 and 250 lbs). Not hard to tweak the inputs to get another 500-1000 calories/day.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:37 pm
Heart monitor revealed Poythress thus far playing without registering any data.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:37 pm
Two Grandslams @ Dennys will get ya 6000 cals.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:37 pm
14 — 4 hours of practice is not constantly running and moving. A lot of practice is standing and listening. I don’t really care. I just think the number is overstated.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:40 pm
http://www.shapefit.com/dailycalorie-calc.html
a lot of it depends on weight & height.
brian long will never appreciate being able to burn 5000 calories/day
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:45 pm
#20 Please revise your name to Delk for 2 1/2
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Michael Phelps eats 12000 calories a day when he trains so its not that far off
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:52 pm
4, Michael Phelps used to have to eat 10,000 calories a day to help replace everything he burnt, I seriously doubt Cal misspoke. 16, monitoring the heart is a good way to prevent what you are talkin are talkin about, it allows the staff to know when a player needs to rest.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:56 pm
I had to eat 62,000 calories a day when I was training!
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:58 pm
Cal…simply awesome.
January 3rd, 2013 at 12:59 pm
Michael phelps used to eat way more than that when he trained
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:00 pm
#14–
“A 125 pound man jogging a long time is a big difference than someone sprinting and running hard everywhere they go……muscle mass and weight and all that stuff plays a role.”
They are actually around 160 lbs., not that that is a huge man by any stretch; but the important point is that they aren’t just “jogging.” Jogging is what a soccer mom does to complete 1 mile in 15 minutes or so 3 times a week.
A serious marathoner is running close to 5 minute miles for 26.2 miles. Olympic level marathoners are running sub-5 minute miles. Sure it’s not a sprint, but that’s a damn fast pace to hold for 2 hours and 10 minutes.
And by the way as an interesting side not, someone last night predicted in the comments section that the secret was heart monitors, so apparently there is at least one person (not me) that is not completely full of bull. Except UKfreshmen is always full of it. Always. Like a true fan of that little junior college down the road.
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Yea amazing someone guessed that, wonder if it was the fact that one of our players was wearing one in a game and everyone saw?
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:04 pm
By the way did u know Michael phelps apparently used to eat a lot of calories when he trained?
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:06 pm
@ Delk – all of those 6-7k calories will not be burned during practice. When you workout, especially with weights, your body burns calories for hours after the workout as well. You add this on top of the calories burned just be awake and it doesn’t take long to meet or exceed 6k calories per day.
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:10 pm
Word is that SexnNursinHomes burns about 30,000 calories on his weekend rounds
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:14 pm
Just thinking… I bet MKG’s calories never had time to register to the positive. Like a continous burn.
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:16 pm
I actually saw this predicted by a KSR poster last night: ” Just Sayin’ Says:
January 2nd, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Cal’s thing he is releasing tomorrow will be about making players wear heart monitors to keep their heart rate up during practice. If the players dropped below a certain rate they had to run. Heard it here first.”
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=124639#comments
So kudos to “Just Sayin’”
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:21 pm
Whoever is concerned about calories obviously doesn’t work out much – these kids can burn 6-7K or more calories a day no problem. When Walter McCarty played, Rick used to make him drink high calorie shakes to try putting on weight, to no avail.
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:21 pm
Hey, whatever it takes, coach. No where to hide fellas.
33) amen
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:22 pm
Delk for 3: you’re looking like a fool haha
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:33 pm
Another great example of gamification.
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:38 pm
College athletes should be eating about 6,000 calories a day and still not gain weight, so it makes sense. Now Cal has medical evidence to rip Poythress/Harrow for not giving 100%. Genius.
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:38 pm
that’s nothing … i used to consume upwards of 1 MILLION calories a day … i offset that by massive amounts of training, threesomes and exlax
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:41 pm
32- haha, shhhhhh. No one needs to question how I got this very muscular, chiseled crotch.
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Let me get this straight. You are using heart monitors as a training technique. huh!
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:58 pm
The number is inflated like everything else here in America.
January 3rd, 2013 at 1:59 pm
Very entertaining thread,kids.
January 3rd, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Poythress’s only has to read into the single digits.
January 3rd, 2013 at 2:51 pm
OK, so what’s next for Cal’s practices, shock collars?
January 3rd, 2013 at 2:55 pm
I can picture Kyle before the next game going up to an opponent and saying “I must break you” with a Russian accent.
January 3rd, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Why would you give away one of your competitive advantages?
January 3rd, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Can someone please show Wiltjer where the weight room is located? Sheesh…dude looks as soft as Homer Simpson.
January 3rd, 2013 at 3:21 pm
I noticed a monitor on Poythress (I think) during the ESPN series. Not much of a “secret”
January 3rd, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Just Sayin’ Says:
January 2nd, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Cal’s thing he is releasing tomorrow will be about making players wear heart monitors to keep their heart rate up during practice. If the players dropped below a certain rate they had to run. Heard it here first.”
KSR Needs to hire this man.
January 3rd, 2013 at 4:48 pm
@ 50
I think everyone thought that was specific to poythress and everyone saw him wearing it when they adjusted in a game early this season. Everybody started spreading rumors about him having heart problems.
January 5th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
Roses be red…
Cat’s be blue…
All them calories…
Turn to super-pooh…