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The Cult of Hate


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True or False:  UK has the craziest/biggest fanbase in the nation?

True or False:  UK is the most hated fanbase in the nation?

The answer to both questions is undoubtedly “True“.  Is there a correlation?  I think so.  The hatred has reared its ugly head like never before this week .  And I’m sick and tired of it.

You’re also sick and tired of hearing about the IU game, I know.  So am I.  Because every single f-ing time I sign in to Facebook or check my Twitter timeline, it is a stream of constant Kentucky bashing.  All because of one win, the haters come out in full force to make sure everybody knows that they think the UK fanbase is full of obnoxious, redneck idiots.  And while UK has plenty of obnoxious fans, the broad generalizations are simply getting out of hand.

At this point, it has apparently become an anomaly to be a rational, reasonable UK fan.  What the hell?!  This morning, Dick Vitale tweeted a picture with two Cat fans at the Broken Egg for breakfast.  His tweet said, “These two are objective fans.”  So, Dick, people are supposed to just assume that Kentucky fans are crazy and irrational right away?  I love you, but c’mon man.  Now, UK fans can’t even get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to being REASONABLE.  That’s the sports climate we live in.  And, yes, it’s partially our fault.

Kentucky’s fanbase is so large that, of course, it is going to have the highest number of a**hole fans.  It’s inevitable by sheer mathematics and probability.  The general passion of the UK fanbase has rubbed people the wrong way, too.  Combine that with the perceived ‘redneck culture’ of our great commonwealth, and you’ve got the ingredients for a stereotype being perpetuated by haters across the country…specifically north of Lexington in general.  Is there any truth in it?  Yes, some – like people say about most stereotypes.  But the UK stereotype has become more accepted as fact than fiction.  I will admit that we here at KSR do perpetuate stereotypes about UofL fans and their linebeard/flatbills, but it is a joke.  Poking fun is way different than actually believing a stereotype.

And that is the problem – opposing fans are being raised to actually believe that all UK fans are crazy and obnoxious.  Growing up in Southern Indiana, I was exposed to three fanbases.  UK, IU, and UofL.  If you weren’t a UK fan, your favorite teams went in one of two orders: 1) IU 2) UofL 3) whoever was playing UK … or 1) UofL 2) IU 3) whoever was playing UK.  You were bred to be a hater from the beginning, and people rationalized it by saying, “Well, those damn UK fans are just the worst”.  Sure, some people have subjective experiences with crazy UK fans that shape their opinion, but the stereotype is still an infectious virus of a perception that we cannot escape.

This stereotype turns opposing fans who would otherwise be reasonable into irrational jerks.  They think its cool or funny to get on Facebook or Twitter and spout off about how Kentucky deserves every bad thing that happens because they’re nothing but insane hicks.  And while a healthy combination of hatred and respect is a compelling part of any great rivalry, the antics are getting out of hand with violence and animosity.  I’m not saying we all have to like each other, but UofL and IU fans have shown a great deal of unnecessary ganging-up and hatred towards all UK fans this week.

Being arguably the greatest college basketball program in history means that haters are inevitable.  From the top, it’s impossible to avoid them.  And with that, being the biggest fanbase means you’ve got plenty of unreasonable crazies of your own to deal with.  But all I ask is this:  If you’re going to be a hater or a jerk, direct it towards the unreasonable fan who provoked you instead of at an entire fanbase.  That goes for all fans.  Two wrongs usually don’t make a right, but it’s better than the alternative.  If you can’t identify your provocateur,  then you are probably in the wrong.

In the end, the sports world would be a better place if we were all reasonable, level-headed fans.  But then again, the Kentucky fanbase wouldn’t be as spectacular as it is without a bit of unreasonableness.

Article written by Chris Thomas

63 responses to “The Cult of Hate”

  1. Truth

    HOO HOO HOO HOOSIERS!!!!!

  2. Truth

    We are the greatest fan base in the country, get used to it

  3. TaylorsvilleCat

    “arguably”? put ‘em up..

  4. Crying??

    That just sounds like more crying about the loss. Who cares if IU fans hate us. IU and their fanbase are irrelevant. Before the loss, I thought they were the team we should take off the schedule. Now, I think we should wait one year, then take them off. But really, who cares about them. The craziness and hate is what makes it awesome to be a Cats fan. We are the Yankees of college b-ball. Embrace it. Move on.

  5. Sean

    Cute. I submitted a column to you guys touching on all of these points yesterday

  6. CATSCATSCATS

    Red Sox have the most hated fans.

  7. Sawyer

    chris you sound like a little b!tch. of course we have haters. this isn’t how you’re supposed to respond to them. this post is embarrassing someone should take it off the sight. take some advice from the headline pic, of course haters are going to hate. blow that sh!t off.

  8. jimtown catfan

    I am usually behind all the posts on KSR, but this one is not very good. Sorry!
    The reason I say this is because it comes off as a whining Cat fan, a bunch of bellyaching over nothing.
    A lot of non UK friends of mine say that UK fans are sore losers and cry and make excuses when they lose. This article solidifies their point in my eyes.
    IU beat us, period. They outplayed us in front of their amped up fans in Assembly. Lets just move on and hope we cross paths sometime in March on a neutral court.
    Who cares what the other fan bases (i.e UL, IU, TN, etc) are saying. Who cares that they are stereotyping. As a cat fan I do the same to opposing schools, mostly in a joking manner.
    Ive heard this garbage since last Saturday. I was upset over the loss for about 5 minutes, then I moved on. Once we get back on a winning streak and start crushing opposition, the talking will stop.
    Lets be above all the talk and focus on the rest of the season.Please KSR, no more posts about IU and their fans. Please dont have Dakich on the show anymore.
    Go Cats!!

  9. Hootie

    I’m quickly getting tired of Dickie V. He calls out everything Kentucky both during Kentucky games he covers and every other broadcast he does. Now he is mining the fanbase for page hits and Twitter follows. Want to express your displeasure with the Clown Prince of College Basketball? Turn your back on him. He’s an asshat, he’s always been an asshat and he will be an asshat long after he retires, which could not come soon enough for me. Hopefully none of the current crop of younger color guys picks up the mantle and instead we have an era of solid commentary for a few years. Though with ESPN insisting on poluting color comentary gene pool with morons, I think that is probably too much to hope for.

  10. 19snl60

    The Indiana fanbase does not even deserve a comment…..so i won’t

  11. jengland

    poor chattanooga is gonna get white boy’d with five minutes left in the game. i say save the indiana talk for next year’s game. expect half as many indiana fans at the game next season compared to last season

  12. Ridiculicious

    I’m gonna back off very slowly, now… put the cookie cutter on the ground.

  13. Sawyer

    *site

  14. Ukalltheway

    2.) you guys dont travel worth a sh*t, and guess what, no one ever claims you are the greatest fans in college ball. We are inthe discussion with the packers and steelers for the greatest fans in all of sports. Your fanbase never changes an online poll. Hell your not even one of the top 3 most lovedteams on facebook. And no writer uses you to get hits and save their job. Im sorry you guys will never match us. Now go be happy about your win and leave us the hell alone!

  15. dcsports22

    Well said. I think it’s entertaining than one win can mean so much to a fan base. At the same time, I think it’s embarrassing to hear about the HATE that IU fans displayed Saturday. There are stories all over the place (and I have personally talked to a few UK fans that were in Bloomington) regarding the way someone was treated for wearing blue on the precious IU campus.
    The bottom line is, I would be embarrassed if this ever happened in Lexington. But I don’t think we have to worry about that. On Saturday, we made their season. They did everything short of cutting down the nets (or did they?). It was a good win for a program just a few years off of probation that had sunk to all time lows. As far as UK goes, it was one loss in December during a season that will very likely end with meaningful wins. Hopefully one wear there is real reason to cut down the nets. As far as our friend Truth and the other IU fans that stop by here so often goes, it’s just further proof that what UK does and what are fans have to say is far more interesting and relevant than what their Hoo Hoo Hoosiers have to say or do. Do they even have a site like this? I know I for one would never waste my time looking at it, let alone commenting.
    Go Cats!

  16. Sean

    This is what I sent KSR yesterday. Enjoy. Less whiny

    As I sit here, reading hate filled tweets several days after the Indiana Hoosiers played a wonderful game, defeating my local favorite, top ranked Kentucky Wildcats, I see this rivalry isn’t heading in the wholesome direction I originally hoped it would. Granted, I may have felt somewhat different if the outcome had turned into our favor, but even prior to the game, the level of animosity being spewed in the direction of Kentucky fans was reaching unheard of heights.

    I was more than thrilled that Indiana basketball was relevant again. Being 26 years old, I am completely aware of the rich history of the Indiana Hoosiers. Regardless of the tough times they’ve faced of late, I chose to not disrespect the heritage of the program. Yet on Twitter (@SeanRossSappMMA) I had random Indiana Hoosier fans harassing me simply on the fact that I had hashtagged #BBN in several posts. While I often use colorful language, I try to not disparage an opposing team in that manner, in order to avoid the “ignorant Kentucky hick” stereotype.

    We’ve all experienced the typical rivalry talk from Louisville fans, I’ve never received the type of unwarranted hatred as I have from Indiana fans. Much of this can be attributed to the fact that as a whole, we dismissed the Hoosiers as still being irrelevant. With the new semester brought new life, and they played a perfect game Saturday and totally earned their victory. If the Cats were to lose to someone, I’d rather it be now, than a conference game, and as mentioned, it was well earned. A very unexpected outcome, but not nearly as unexpected as the violent conversation and actions that would follow.

    As a Kentucky fan, I respect Indiana. This is my plea to fans of both to not allow this type of situation to overshadow the rivalry. What happened in Cincinnati this weekend was disgusting, and I never want to see the team I care about, or the fans associated with them, to amplify a situation to a volatile level. Violence has no place on the basketball court, the stands, or in any situation surrounding the game. Both programs have more than enough reasons to be proud of themselves and their teams. We are able to attract students from across the nation to come to school in the Midwest (when pro teams can’t even get players to come to the Midwest for millions of dollars), give them an education, and a grand stage to showcase their abilities as teenagers and early adults.

    We as Kentucky fans are looked at as some of the most obnoxious fans on the planet. Much of this is credited to our unanimous embrace of hiring the controversial John Calipari as our head coach. Thus far, the man has clearly done nothing but positive things for the basketball program. A lot of this, however, we bring on ourselves. It’s okay to be a loud and rowdy outside of the game, since Rupp’s unique structure doesn’t allow fans to be as vocal as they can be (and should be fixed, so every home game can be like IU’s was).

    With the expansion of media throughout the past 20 years, everything is put under a microscope. This microscope magnifies negative situations. We, as targets of this media, can’t let this negativity be the reflection of our behavior as fans. I like to fancy the Wildcat fans as classy, knowledgeable, and respectful, unfortunately that isn’t how we are portrayed or perceived

    While I realize I sound preachy, we must remember the Indiana situation, and not give fans the ammunition to fire back at us. The ever popular “haters gonna hate” mentality does prove true at times, but we must respond with class. Don’t forget, these are kids playing this game, and keeping us entertained. They are enrolled in college full time, and do have other things that affect them. They as athletes must show humility, and so must we as fans. Be proud of the university you choose to represent, but also remember what you’re representing.

    Thank you, AND GO CATS!

  17. Sheriff Buford T. Justice

    Who cares.

  18. phrakture

    That does it, I’m boycotting Dickie V. I grew up idolizing the man, but when you make generalizations and spew the same nonsense over and over. Go retire old man, no one cares what you have to say anymore. You were a mediocre coach at a school no one cares about and you’re an even worse sportscaster. Time for a sabbatical.

  19. JBR

    Well written piece, but it will fall on deaf ears. There are idiot fans everywhere, and in case you haven’t noticed, the general intelligence of this nation is declining fast…i.e. look at the elction of W and the rise of people like Palin and Bachman. Yes, many of those stereotypes are true…but about ALL fanbases, not just ours. Yes, I have almost fought my own UK fans when I have seen them harassing 80 year old couples from other schools at games…but I have seen it from the the opposing schools as well. People are just idiots anymore…sad but true fact of life.

  20. dcsports22

    Lastly, as far as the beloved Hoosiers go, we can only hope they make the tournament this year. At this point, a rematch (especially on a neutral court) would be very cool. So like I said, hopefully they make the tournament this year…..

  21. Skeps

    Nice job. Agree 100%. The hatred is unreal not only from opposing fans, but from the sports media.

  22. Kenny H

    I HATE UL. Proud of it. Everytime I see someone wearing that stupid little bird on their shirt it makes me sick. Everytime I see a Ville shirt I vomit it my mouth a little. I don’t wish bad things to happen to anyone but if they are gonna happen – it might as well be a UL fan.

  23. Haters Gonna Hate

    Slaters Gonna Slate

  24. Humbled, not Heartbroken

    Would like some cheese to go with that w(h)ine?

    When you have an inferior program, you will crow long and loud when you steal a win from the big boys. Hell, I’m still yapping about our ugly win over the crappiest UT team in 2 decades (because a new losing streak starts next year) But I’m milking this win until next Nov.

    Let the little man enjoy his once i a lifetime victory when they get it, and take the jeering like a man. I can handle all you can dish out IU,UL,UT, etc. because I’ll still be cheering on the Cats in late March & early April, while you are sitting around with your pud in your hand, figuring out how you can still win your NCAA office pool after picking Centenary to upset UK in round one.

  25. SagaciousMind

    Why even respond to all the haters? We are UK, we are hated just like the Yankees are. And why are we hated? Because we are the #1 program in the country. UK was #1 and got beat by IU at home, so of course there will be more haters. But who cares?!? Anyone with a brain knows if UK and IU played a best of 3, 5, or 7 series, IU will have just the lone win on their side. And anyone with a brain also will know UK is the better team and will end up in the final four while IU is on the couch. Let the IU fans celebrate their little victory. They’ve sucked for awhile and UK has owned the series. It took an experienced IU team to beat a bunch of freshmens and sophomores. If they met in the tourney, we know IU will get stomped. I wish IU nothin but the best of luck in their season. Now that they’ve beat UK, I hope they do well in the Big 10 cuz that only helps our RPI. I dont even hate Indiana, they’ve never been consistantly good in my 26 years of existance. So if they wanna hate, good for them. I’m sure tons of people hated on us when UMass beat us in the 95-96 season, and we know how that year turned out. I dont even pay attention to the haters. When you dont pay attention is what makes them even more mad. Dont even acknowledge them.

  26. Davisblue

    the entire point of that was eliminated based on the final line. that was dumb

  27. Jason D

    Serious question: Why don’t UL and IU play each other every year like both do with UK? Seriously….they need to be MADE to play each other so maybe some of the ganging up on UK can come down to a more tolerable level. There must be some sort of secret pact between IU and UL because it’s beyond me as to why they don’t play each other. They need to so maybe they start to get a rivalry of their own.

  28. Stan

    Louisville can try to back up all the talk Dec.31. Let em talk, it won’t last as long as Ricky P. did in the Italian resturant with his coachs wife, what was it, something like 15 seconds…Be proud of your coach Louisville fans, he is quite a role model.

  29. kyhank

    There are poor fans every where, I once told a friend who coached basketball in northern indiana [ high school ]and had a full gym for every game, but hated the fans because they thought they knew more about coaching than he did ” If you love the game and hate fans move to Iowa they play basketball but they go to wresling matches.

  30. scott

    UK the craziest? Apparently not at Rupp where all the blue hairs are. So let me get this straight. You complain about the electric atmosphere at Assmebly, and mock the rushing of the court, which, by definition, is “a little crazy”. You all will of course NEVER rush the floor, yet you are a crazier fanbase?? You are all on crack. I hate the Dukies more than I hate you dolts. OSU and U of M? Please, can’t stand ‘em. A few hillbillies in blue, south of the border? I can deal.

  31. BBN

    Is Chris aq female, because I couldn’t help but notice the whining in this article. GET OVER THE GAME AND THE WORTHLESS IU FANS. They are not worht your time, nor your energy. We lost by one damn point and a buzzer beater!! NEXT….

  32. scott

    #27-

    IU and UL, with Denny, used to have a little series going. They might have done a home and home with Pitino too…but that stuff changes, with Knight>Davis>Sampson>and now Crean, they all have their agendas, theories, plans, and goals. We’ve played ND forever, and UK. I would love it if UofL were added to the mix.

  33. catsincebirth

    #18…wasn’t it a member of the Obama administration a few years back that was worried about the amount of US troops on Guam and he was afraid the island itself would TIP over because of the extra people? Yeah it was..how is that for stupid.

  34. Dane Brammage

    @9, what you said about Dickie V. ‘reasonated’ with me.
    Please tweet that to Dickie V., that he is “the Clown Prince…, Asshat, etc. He needs to know it.

  35. phrakture

    34) http://twitter.com/#!/DickieV/status/147455114150551552

    Kill’m with kindness Dickie V, doesn’t change the truth

  36. Jumpinmypocket

    Hahahahaha, it’s getting to you bitches! You get what you ask for!!

  37. barn

    hope dickie v was having the broken egg’s special “eat s*&t and die”

  38. Anthony Davis Has A Posse

    Any rational IU fan should be embarrassed by the things they witnessed/are reading about. Likewise, I am quite often embarrassed by our own fans. Like it or not, the perception of our fan base does actually matter. BBN is the best fan base in college basketball, but if we ever want to get credit for it we can’t strive to be the most hated. I for one want people to think positive things when Kentucky comes up in conversation because I am proud of our program. I don’t want to feel the need to instinctively go on the defensive. I take no pride in being part of “the most hated” group of fans.

    I like jokes, I like to laugh about cornfields and getting arrested and line beards. But we have to be able to take off the blue tinted glasses every now and then and look at things objectively if we want to be taken seriously as a group.

    Give *deserved* credit to an opposing team or player next time you talk to one of their fans – it will shock them.

  39. Jumpinmypocket

    #27 why doesn’t UK play WKU, UL does, don’t start that! I think they beat you all they last the time you all played!

  40. barn

    38)bullies still give you wedgies don’t they?

  41. Viren

    We have been hated for a long time. No one wants to see Kentucky win a national championship. We have been getting the worst possible draw of any team since last 12 or 13 years. Even when Cats earned the easy path we have been screwed by the NCAA Committee. We had to play Marquette and Wisconsin in their backyard when Cats were #1 seed. We had to play UAB in their backyard when we were #1 seed. We were #4 seed last season when we beat Florida in the SEC Tournament, while Gators clinching a #2 seed. Cats fans expect the same from this year’s committee as well and Cal need to go ahead and tell these guys up front if they want to win National Championship then they better not expect easy path come NCAA Tournament 2012. All these while Duke and UNC get home treatment every year no matter their seed. I can remember couple of years ago UNC did not leave the state of North Carolina until to go play in the NCAA FINAL FOUR. No one wants to see us win so I hope our guys play each game with every possession and develop a killer instinct. You have got to put teams away early otherwise team like Indiana will burn us again when the stakes are higher than just losing #1 rankings. Go Cats

  42. CliffFrankLou

    More hated than Duke? Debatable.

  43. mores

    Maybe they wouldn’t have as much ammo if you would stop using the word “hater” non-ironically.

  44. Tweet this

    I live in central Indiana and quite honestly the majority of us normal, synaptically active and socially well adjusted residents of Indiana can not even remotely stand the insecure, immature, hate filled, juvenile delinquents with alcohol problems, that identify with and call themselves IU Hoosier fans these days.
    Indiana hates IU and their dooshy little bitch fanbois.
    Fact.

  45. bung

    uk fans are a united bunch because everyone has been against us since adolph owned college basketball…

  46. Kentucky Gentleman

    This is a dumb post. Who cares if we are the most hated fans, isn’t that part of the rivalry?

  47. MustangCat

    I wonder what would be the percentage (%) of “rational and reasonable” and I’ll throw in “respectful” hater/fans? When i’ve read over SOME of the hate-mail directed at us since and before the IU game?! Especially by the IU fans??! And WE are the ones supposed to be embarressed of ourselves?! Seldom have i ever read an “objective” word from someone spewing off at the mouth about how much they hate UK. I have plenty of family and friends that root for UL, IU, NC, Duke and the like, who go back and forth GOOD_NATUREDLY! It’s not rockit science. And we aren’t the ones with the problem.

  48. Chuck Norris

    I’m whippin some hoosier ass if I see you in a I-who shirt!

  49. Mr Mr

    Accept it. We are a crazy, irrational fanbase. We were, at least i was, delusional enough to watch the NIT game against UNLV and act like we were a relevant team.

  50. That's Live Action!

    #8, I totally agree with you. KSR has totally run this topic into the ground. Let’s not be sore losers here. It’s ok for you guys to make fun of U of L and IU fans when we’re winning, but when we lose you can’t take it when they rag us back. It’s all fun and games!

  51. bung

    good job ksr….represent K e n t u c k y…cause the rest of the world won’t…

  52. TommyCreansHairGel

    Record in the last 21 years.

    Kentucky 16

    University of Indiana (UI) 5

    Total irrelevant program. I work with a “UI” fan and he has been doing nothing but walking around smiling all week. I seriously think the beatings the have taken the last 20 years has made them all totally freaking nuts. They seem to forget that they have to comedown to Rupp next year. I say we one up them and welcome them with open arms. . .

    And Matt I think you should close the comments down because it seem there are so many trolls on here now days. It kinda ruins a good discussion. Fake losevile uI trolls.

    GO BIG BLUE!!!

  53. Al's IndiCats

    You’ll have to excuse Scot #30, he just had his man card revoked because his testies were just removed, and a big Vagina was inserted. Not that it’s a bad thing scot, but I really hate to hear your grandmother call you scrotum-less scottie the ball-less grandson I always loved.
    Here’s what I think of you and that damn getto school you love. You’ll never be an equal to UK….NEVER!!!! By some happen stance that you could beat us will not change the DNA of you and that Getto school. Get used to it, embrace it, and come back to reality. You may have 40 to 45% of Jefferson county but you’ll never have that % in the entire state. Take your skank to porcinis and ask for table #2 for that’s the only legancy your coach will ever have on this GREAT state of Kentucky!

  54. TommyCreansHairGel

    Flat out Kentucky , UCLA , UNC , Kansas , and I used to have U I on this list. Should NEVER, I mean NEVER rush the court.

    Pathetic.

  55. Louisville

    UK is pathetic…who cares about them losers. Great job HOOISERS! Here kitty kitty clean the litter box. Redneck hillbillies no wonder the world hates yaw…yaw pathetic…in a language u understand.

  56. Louisville

    Like yaw rushed tenn after getting that ass handed to u for 26 years…damn lol and still bowl less!

  57. Love the cyber day special!

    56- Dont u have an appt at an abortion clinic to get to.

  58. the TRUTH

    Matt Jones Matt Jones, where did you get that picture of me?

  59. old_school

    If you’re childish enough to care what people tweet or facebook about you – you deserve the insecurity that surely haunts you.

    It’s basketball. Louisville fans have a right to be proud of their team. Indiana has a right to be proud, as do Duke fans, UNC fans, Kansas fans, etc, etc, etc….

    Of course we Kentucky fans can point to several factors that make our program great – but that doesn’t mean we own the market on passion for our team.

    college sports is great because of the passion. I absolutely love the fact that IU fans filled up Assembly Hall and made it a raucous atmosphere. I love that Duke Crazies turn Cameron into a unique setting every time they play. It’s what makes college basketball so special.

    The key for fans in this age of twitter and social networking is to realize the hate is just part of the game. If you can’t take it – maybe you should consider some other interest.

  60. Number 55/56 is obviously retarded... and it's sad

    That is all.

  61. Catsfando

    #19 JBR You point out the lack of education in fans and then use it as a political swipe only at republicans who have been duly elected? Like there are no dumb a55 democrats? Have you listened to a Biden interview lately? There has been no one more disingenuous than the leader of your party who resides in the oval office. You and your compatriots were dumb enough to put him there. Either way, politics has nothing to do with basketball, just thought it was a cheap shot. If at some point there is not some reckoning with fan behavior I fully expect within the next few years someone to get killed over this silliness. I can see the day when visitors to such hostile arenas will begin to arm themselves if not already. One can only be pushed so far, take so much abuse, and then someone will lose control and it will be on. There is never enough security should something like this happen. Cincinnati – Xavier is a place that could have exploded. Irrational people plied with alcohol and encouraged by an enormous superiority in numbers and a total lack of respect is not a good mix. It’s just a matter of time. I have never cared what other fans thought about UK, still don’t, but when there is the real threat of physical harm to ones person then we are moving out of the words area into a whole new world. Talk trash all you want but treat people the way you want to be treated or be prepared to reap what you sew.

  62. oldchucktaylors

    Is that Lexington’s own “Sweet Evening Breeze” in the photo?

  63. Still the best

    hate to say this but we are a lot like Ohio State football