Blue-White notes

It was an interesting night for Kentucky’s basketball team as they battled each other in a game that was as promising as it was ugly.  It’s clear that they’re not quite where they need to be at this point and, with so much departed and so many new pieces, it’s not much of a surprise.  In case you were stormed in or were too busy watching Glee, here is what you missed…

– Obviously, the star of the night was Brandon Knight, who not only poured in 37 points, but did so by shooting the ball at an incredibly efficient 14-20 clip. Calipari said after the game that he was pleased with how Knight played, but more so with how he seemed to learn that he can’t just drive at the basket and throw his body at someone. Sometimes, you have to pull up for the jumper. Tonight, he looked very effective in doing just that.

– Another bright spot was another freshman, Terrence Jones. Jones finished with 29 points and was the first half’s leading scorer and, arguably, it’s most consistent player. After the game, Cal said that he was pleased with how his forward played, but thought he took a couple of ill-advised threes. He also said that he expects him to use his length to hit the offensive glass better, but said that he was “pretty good” on Tuesday night.

– Though Cal said that he needs Jones to hit the offensive glass a little better, you have to cut him some slack. Josh Harrellson made it difficult for anyone else to pull down any rebounds. Jorts had 26 reboundsin the game, playing for both squads, and grabbed eight of them on the offensive end. It was a strong and aggressive performance similar to what he displayed during the student practice (or so they say) and Calipari said afterward, “I don’t think he’s ever done that in any of our drills.” Must be The Carlton. Calipari added, “We are either the worst offensive rebounding team in the country or Josh got better. We have to see what it is.”

– The player that most seem to expect to serve as the veteran leader role vacated by Patrick Patterson, Darius Miller, had a bit of an up-and-down game. Miller finished with 20 points and 6 rebounds, but also had a game-high five turnovers. But, it was the way that Miller seemed to disappear at times in the first half that seemed to be the most frustrating. In his first two seasons on campus, he had difficulty in disappearing while playing two very different roles. This year, again presented with a different role on yet another very different team, he can’t afford to do that. The second half Darius is the one that this team needs.

– Another returning player who needs to step into a much larger role, DeAndre Liggins, looked very similar to what he brought to the table last season. And, that’s not a bad thing. Calipari said he was great defensively and his aggressiveness, which included 16 first half shots, was promising, though it likely will be tightly reined in by the time the season starts. But, Liggins, who finished with 17 points, 7 rebounds and 4 assists, looked hungry and ready to leave his mark every time he stepped on the floor. When you play like that, the numbers will come.

– Another interesting freshman performance came from Doron Lamb, who attacked the basket repeatedly on the way to 16 points. And, strangely, after coming to campus with so much hype surrounding his three-point shooting ability, he attempted no shots from downtown – the only player besides Eloy Vargas and Jarrod Polson not to do so. He also handed out six assists. A very strong showing.

– Speaking of Vargas, he still looked like he was trying to get comfortable in the offense and Coach Cal said that he did pretty well overall. However, he would like to see him “get in the mix” more and acknowledged that Harrellson crushed him on the boards. He needs to be more of a force in that regard.

– If I told you that Jon Hood shot the ball as many times as Brandon Knight, would you believe me? Hood looked very aggressive from the start, but missed his first 11 shots of the game before getting a dunk and finishing the first half 1-12. But, to his credit, he came out in the second half and shot 5-8 and finished with 14 points. He remains a bit of a question mark, but his confidence seems to be in place and you get the feeling that it’s all starting to come together. He looks like a guy who could have a solid game in one of the exhibitions or early games and then ride it into a nice spot in the rotation.

– After the game, Calipari was asked if he thought the game was useful, and he said that he felt it was really valuable. He said that the team is still “trying to figure out how to play” and that there are a lot of points in the game where they didn’t know what they were doing. Games like this give players an opportunity to get something to click and hopefully have a light turn on in their heads.

– Calipari said that because they could only go five-on-five, there were some guys cramping up afterward, but nothing major. Calipari had to call timeouts just to rest the guys at a few points and said that he considered using a running clock, but decided instead to use it as an opportunity to work on their conditioning. Because that’s going to be very, very important on a team with such a slim roster.

– In terms of playing time, Cal said he wants a seven-player rotationand he’s still figuring out who is going to be in that mix. You can assume that Knight, Jones, Miller, Lamb, Liggins and, eventually, Kanter are locks. He said that he thinks Harrellson could be in that mix. You’d have to assume that Hood and Vargas are too.- Speaking of Kanter, he sat courtside in an Undertaker shirt. That’s all there is to report there.

– Because of the storms throughout the state, there were about 10,000 fans on hand for the scrimmage. It gave a unique situation in the arena and allowed for a “Free Enes” chant to be heard on television, as well as someone screaming, “Jorts!” when Harrellson went to the basket.

 That’s it for now.  We’ll get into it more in the morning.  See you then…

Article written by Thomas Beisner

59 responses to “Blue-White notes”

  1. Jason

    Paragraphs much?

  2. Blue

    Go Blue

  3. Kansas Sucks


    Free Enes

  4. Kansas Sucks


    Free Enes

  5. FreeEnes

    I just hope everyone realizes that every single one of these kids played an entire full game, 40 minutes worth, tonight with no subs. Though it was ugly at times, I guarantee our guys were winded and legs were getting weak..but we have to proud of the fact they continued to hustle and continued to play D…playing 40 minutes is no walk in the park, for anyone.

  6. BPsycho

    #1 Kill people much?

    lol Happy Halloween!

    Poor 2Pat, the Rockets are friggin deeep. I keep forgetting about Chase “White As A Snow Baby” Budinger.

  7. Guru

    Patterson isn’t in a good spot. They are log-jammed at the F position, that’s for sure.

  8. Cousins Fake Teeth

    Eloy attempted a 3.

  9. DaviessCounty CatFan

    7.) Then why did they draft another forward? I’m shocked by them putting him on the inactive list. I’m rooting for PPatt the most out of the Draft Cats. He saved our program during some bad times. Go PPatt!!

  10. BigBlueBromley

    Anybody else notice that the tv coverage left Liggins off of the 2010 roster?

  11. UK

    Patterson’s time will come. Being on a good time now only makes him better in the future.

    Patterson will start in the NBA someday.

  12. Josh

    Vargas attemted a 3 with about 5min left in second half… just saying.

  13. Josh


  14. Big Ironton

    Lamb did NOT ever have any hype surrounding his 3 point shooting ability. He was known for his mid range game…..

  15. BPsycho

    #9 They drafted him to get him out of the draft. I’m completely serious: You don’t want to be the guy that could have had Patterson, and have to “watch” him turn into another Amare. If they didn’t take him for that reason
    “I have no clue” because Houston is home of the fowards. I’m not a Rockets fan “other than rooting for Hayes of course” but I have to say: They are looking good tonight, and could make some noise this year with the cast they have.

    Having said that. I hope he gets traded asap.

  16. asdfasdf

    14) precisely!!!!!!

  17. Yargamel

    If it’s possible, it seemed like Liggins was even better on the defensive end tonight than he was last year. You could tell he was frustrating Miller the entire second half with his aggressive defense.

  18. rumor mill

    We’ll know by Thursday on Kanter

  19. blueblue

    Does anyone know where I can find a recording of the tv coverage?? I was there and I had my daughter with me and at half time, someone called me and told me that we were on tv. It was supposed to be a good up close shot. My daughter is seven years old (she is a pretty little red head) and it would really thrill her to see herself on tv.

  20. Drew Franklin

    19…. Replay tonight at 7:00

  21. BPsycho

    Shannon Brown makin it rain **r’s! Yehuh lego

  22. UKIreland

    It’s great seeing the nba again, where travelling happens!

  23. Cking98

    Nice breakdown, I agree the boys were winded, I hope cal goes with a 9 player set, running 7 will wear them out come february. I don’t see them being able to play at a true dribble drive pace with a seven man rotation, and it leaves no room for foul trouble. We really need Kanter, we all know that. He will open the dribble drive up, by patrolling the post. I really believe he could be a Dan Issel type player.
    I think Poole is in over his head. Millers lack of a consistant attack really worrys me. He can’t dissapear. It looks like knight, jones, and kanter could average 16 to 20 points a night. Miller, liggins, lamb, hood, jorts and Vargas could combine for 30 points and we could be fine. That’s a big if. I still think we will lose 8 to 9 games. But if someone besides knight ( I am looking at you Lamb!!) can consistantly hit the three we might be able to get to the sweet sixteen, hell maybe just maybe the final four if thet get hot in march. This team will be one that we all freak out about when they lose to Washington in Maui, and lose at Georgia to start off the sec. We are going to take our lumps, but they will save the best for last.

  24. Cking98

    Speaking of the NBA, does everybody know that stern threw out that the league collectively has been losing 250 to 300 million dollars a year? He said that everyplayer will have to give up at least $700,000 to $780,000 to absorb the losses of the league, off of their contracts. Call me greedy but, let the lockout come. Add next years fab 4 to this team and it equals championship #8. That’s a chunk of change to the mid level players. I smell a litigation battle brewing. Is this why cal hasn’t taken Lacey?

  25. BPsycho

    #24 Lol That would be sick!

    But there will be no lockout. Thanks in part to John Wall and Lebron. This season is hyped to the max, and next season will be even better.

    *TNT just aired MFing on TV*

    The NBA can not and will not let a lockout happen.

  26. BarnCat

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  27. tdogg4033011

    23) by the time we play Georgia to start SEC play we will be just fine …..

  28. Sweet Wm

    NCAA would not let former UK players play………..WHY did they let Perrin Johnson play in the Red-White game……he played for UL some 7 yrs ago. Gorgui Dieng will now play for UL while Kanter sits. Same old ncaa.

  29. duhville cat

    Enes will be free by the end of the week. GBB!

  30. duhville cat

    Question: will the NCAA let Dieng play with that bone in his nose?

  31. tombanjo

    14! people need to remember that…

  32. UKBlueownsU

    Without Enes, we are a 10 loss team. The fact that Jorts owned the glass should be a red flag to everyone. We will get crushed on the boards without Big Enes. We need him to be freed.

  33. Art Vandelay

    Hey Beisner, You al att KSR needs to hafv a speling leson frum sumwun hoo cann aktualy spel.

  34. WhiskerBiscuit

    Those stats are all good Beis…….but how did Wayne Turner DO?!

  35. Dr. Feelgood

    On Pitino is quoted as saying:

    “I always had confidence and was optimistic that the NCAA would clear him to play,” Pitino said. “It restores my faith in that if you do things the right way, things will work out. For the young man and for our program, it’s a big boost.”

    WHO is he talking about (doing things the right way). This is about the Deing decision being overturned by NCAA and he is now cleared to play. Doing things the right way is laughable coming out of his mouth.

  36. FRanklEn E. ENglISh

    Jorts annual showing in the Blue-White game. Alright, alright.
    My take.

    TJ = Stud
    BK = Stud light
    Vargas = Meh
    Hood = I want a chance RIGHT NOW!!!! but still can’t perform at this level.
    Miller = Same player as the last two years, which = not a leader.
    Jorts = Typical Jorts, No more, no less.
    Lamb = Very aggressive!
    Liggins = Solid glue guy.
    Polson = 14 years old.
    Poole = Meh

    Overall, I will not get my hopes up this season. We will be a good team, maybe in the area of 25-27 wins. Sweet 16!

  37. GummyBear

    36.. I mostly agree with your take, but you do not give BK and Jorts enough credit.
    BK = Stud.
    Jorts = Better than typical Jorts, a beast on the bords and a sweet touch in the lane. Granted it was all against Vargas, who was (as you say) Meh.

    Everyone else, I tend to agree with your assessment.

  38. kentuckyjoe

    19, I remember. Mommy is a beauty in her own right.

  39. KentuckyHouse

    30) Way to keep it classy, jackwagon…

  40. RandPaulHeadStomp

    So if Coach Cal left (which I hope he never does) would we accept Pitino back if he were interested?

  41. Rolo

    40 – How about……..NO! I would take Bruce Pearl first. And yes, I am serious.

  42. Rolo

    As far as Dieng? I hate Lousiville as much as anyone, but the NCAA made the correct decison in clearing him.

  43. FRanklEn E. ENglISh

    37, Jorts is always pretty good in these games. Be it his long range shots the last couple of years or his rebounding this year, but I don’t see it translating.

  44. Dr. Feelgood

    #42 I agree if he is as accomplished academically as they say, just don’t understand how he has gotten 2 decisions from NCAA and Kanter can’t get one.

  45. Awesomeness

    my 2 cents…

    This team’s defense is going to be very pesky. It seems like Knight, Lamb, and Liggins are animals on the defensive end, giving unbelievable effort. I think opponents are going to have fits with our press/pressure defense. Effort makes such a big difference for college basketball. Effort in scrapping for loose balls and cutting off penetrators.

    Also, we have an incredible influx in highly offensively skilled players in knight, lamb, and Jones. I think all three of these players are “game on the line”, “ice in the veins”, “need a bucket now” type players. To have three options for end of game situations is going to make a big difference. Defenses will find it harder to “shade” to our best player when there are these 3 skilled offensive threats in particular.

    One of the reasons people think we didn’t look all that great is that they were playing hard defense last night. This isn’t midnight madness, their defenses were neutralizing each other.

    I think we should not expect to lose 7 or 8 games as some have predicted. The scrappiness factor will make a huge difference this year in winning close games. This is what has defined UK basketball… effort!

    The excitement of this team may not be in offcourt anticts like last year, but the real fun will start when the scrappy half court trap initillizes… fasten your seat belts.

  46. BobBarker

    The rain stopped in the afternoon. Poor excuse for the even poorer attendance turnout.

  47. Goode

    Hey Bob…it will be ok. Why everyone gets worked up about attendance is beyond me! Its a scrimmage, it will be ok. Fans will show up when the game is played.

  48. Jrod

    I can’t believe it. Clay linked to this. Wow. A new era.

  49. ReverendBlue

    Starters locked in:
    Brandon Knight, Terrance Jones, Darius Miller

    Brandon Knight has a great overall game (penetrate, fast break, passes, shoots, defends, limits turnovers)

    Terrance Jones gives us versatility (can play down low, high post in high/low game, or on perimeter) that will create matchup problems for opponents

    Darius Miller – Inconsistent, but may be the best 3 point shooter on the team based upon what I saw in Canada and last night.

    Likely other starters:
    If Kanter is not available, Jorts is the next best option. He rebounds and gets garbage points inside. More hustle and toughness than Vargas.

    Liggins or Lamb to play the other perimeter position. Will be interesting to see who wins that spot.

  50. ReverendBlue

    By the way, Polson gets more done on the floor than Stacy Poole does.

  51. Goode

    I think Poole has hard time adjusting. It will come around for him.

  52. Awesomeness

    Practice attendance?

    “Practice!?……were talkin bout practice!?”

  53. Alan Cutler's Fart

    Terrence Jones will be a beast. Better get my running loafers on.

  54. Darryl Isaac

    I wasn’t too busy watching Glee, just got kicked off the TV for it. Don’t worry, it wont happen again.

  55. Make Peace

    KSR needs to extend the olive branch to Jon Hood. He is a CAT and a KY boy as well. No more talk on the radio about Hood not liking KSR just let it all die and tell him you want to be friends and will play nice from now on. I am sure the KSR crew doesn’t have anything against Hood they just liking having fun and that is all it is. He seems to take it to seriously though.

  56. Jame-Pain

    The word on campus is that Hood’s new nickname is “Looks” for his ability to create awesome looks and then…

  57. back-in-the-day

    Kentucky will have double-digit losses this season.
    We’re not a good perimeter shooting team and that doomed us last year at tournament time.
    We’ve got too many kids looking ahead to the next level. Why not recruit kids who will savor 3-4 years at Kentucky instead of ones who only want to use the UK exposure for a year or two for an NBA contract. Kentucky is better and deserves better that.

    This team is young and very shallow. Very little experience on this squad and that is pretty much going to the M.O. for Cal’s teams at UK. After four or five years of all hype and disappointing flame-outs in March – fans will grow tire of it and will realize we need solid 3 and 4-year players. You know – Michigan State, Duke and others seem to be finding success with that.

  58. Always Big Blue!

    Right 57 lets go back to Tubby ball. Where we can get to the big dance only to go home after the second round. I’ll take my chances with Cal! Go Kats!

  59. Real Cat Fan

    back-in-the-day, are you talking about 3-4-year-players like Gillispie was recruiting and Tubby was getting his last 2 years? If so, I hope not. The fact is, until the 1-year-rule is changed, most of the top 20 freshmen in the country are going to be dreaming of the NBA, NOT a 3 or 4 year college stay. Players that are the caliber of a Patterson who hang around for 3+ years are a minority these days. And take a look at the number of McD’s AA’s on Duke’s and UNC’s squad, and then get back to me about how Cal should not be going after the best players available. I agree that you have to have a core of experienced players, and if Bledsoe and Orton had not gone pro, we would have had that. Look for this issue to be addressed in the near future by the NCAA.